2024 University Cup

  • PLEASE check any bookmark on all devices. IF you see a link pointing to mandatory.com DELETE it Please use this URL https://forums.hfboards.com/

Hollywood3

Bison/Jet/Moose Fan
May 12, 2007
6,595
1,037
Not many schools interested because of the cost. Ottawa could be a dud for attendance, like TMU was.
Frankly, I believe that the three conference champions should play at the home of one champion on a rotating basis. This is similar to football. (If the RSEQ wants a berth then they need to start a league.)

It is clear that host berths and large fields aren't drawing crowds. All teams in the host conference would have to declare their capability to host by a deadline. If a conference champion is incapable of hosting then they forfeit hosting rights to another conference champion. I know that even in Manitoba with 1,500 seats and low attendance, there would be good crowds to watch the Bisons, and next to nobody to watch UBC play Brock.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: dm8895

AUS Fan

Registered User
Aug 1, 2008
4,112
1,855
At the Rink
Frankly, I believe that the three conference champions should play at the home of one champion on a rotating basis. This is similar to football. (If the RSEQ wants a berth then they need to start a league.)

It is clear that host berths and large fields aren't drawing crowds. All teams in the host conference would have to declare their capability to host by a deadline. If a conference champion is incapable of hosting then they forfeit hosting rights to another conference champion. I know that even in Manitoba with 1,500 seats and low attendance, there would be good crowds to watch the Bisons, and next to nobody to watch UBC play Brock.
Not quite true. UNB, UdeM, UofA, SASK, all had good attendance. Lakehead and Halifax (SMU/SFX) also. CIS B-Ball in Halifax draws 6-8 K per game. Much like Real Estate - Location, Location, Location...
 

MiamiHockeyII

Registered User
Mar 24, 2022
183
256
Ottawa will be a dud for attendance, guaranteed. Much like TMU, both the Gee-Gees and Ravens only attract family and friends to their games.

I have long argued that USports would be much better off simply having consecutive Best-of-3 series between league champions (CWUAA, OUA West, OUA East, and AUS) with the host conference pre-determined on a rotation, as suggested above by Holly.

The OUA used to have a Queens Cup host but abandoned that because it was a money pit. Now one of the two Finalists hosts it and they get a great crowd. If you share the gate, that will pay off the travel costs.
 

Hollywood3

Bison/Jet/Moose Fan
May 12, 2007
6,595
1,037
Not quite true. UNB, UdeM, UofA, SASK, all had good attendance. Lakehead and Halifax (SMU/SFX) also. CIS B-Ball in Halifax draws 6-8 K per game. Much like Real Estate - Location, Location, Location...
Basketball is much different. They have 4 games per day at one venue. It seems that they get more "overflow" fans from other teams in the stands. It looks really bad when semi-final games have 200 fans. There aren't many places that could draw well. Are we going to give those few places perpetual host berths in the nationals?
 
  • Like
Reactions: AUS Fan

Rob

Registered User
Feb 27, 2002
9,149
1,574
New Brunswick
Visit site
Ottawa will be a dud for attendance, guaranteed. Much like TMU, both the Gee-Gees and Ravens only attract family and friends to their games.

Perhaps the only positive about the U Cup at TMU is that I did notice there were quite a few fans from Calgary and BC. This was due to the location. I expect Ottawa to be the same as pretty much all cities will have direct flights. However, outside of the first home game I expect attendance to be pretty dismal.

Basketball is much different. They have 4 games per day at one venue. It seems that they get more "overflow" fans from other teams in the stands. It looks really bad when semi-final games have 200 fans. There aren't many places that could draw well. Are we going to give those few places perpetual host berths in the nationals?

It isn't my money. So if a university wants to lose money on hosting that is up to them.
I just like being at a tournament that has a great atmosphere.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FreddyFoyle

Campy

Registered User
Jan 27, 2019
191
166
Ottawa will be a dud for attendance, guaranteed. Much like TMU, both the Gee-Gees and Ravens only attract family and friends to their games.

I have long argued that USports would be much better off simply having consecutive Best-of-3 series between league champions (CWUAA, OUA West, OUA East, and AUS) with the host conference pre-determined on a rotation, as suggested above by Holly.

The OUA used to have a Queens Cup host but abandoned that because it was a money pit. Now one of the two Finalists hosts it and they get a great crowd. If you share the gate, that will pay off the travel costs.
Agree, it's not going to be pretty
Ottawa also is hosting the World Junior 2 1/2 months before U-Cup.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Drummer and Rob

dm8895

V-Reds , McJesus Stan , Beer Leaguer
Apr 3, 2015
615
375
Freddy Beach
Agree, it's not going to be pretty
Ottawa also is hosting the World Junior 2 1/2 months before U-Cup.
Making this even worse is the fact the rink seats almost 9000 people with the upper bowl open. 900 people in that rink is going to be rough… Hell even in Halifax for the non AUS games that rink was way to big….
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rob

Rob

Registered User
Feb 27, 2002
9,149
1,574
New Brunswick
Visit site
Making this even worse is the fact the rink seats almost 9000 people with the upper bowl open. 900 people in that rink is going to be rough… Hell even in Halifax for the non AUS games that rink was way to big….

I would have to think they will close the upper deck?
 

MiamiHockeyII

Registered User
Mar 24, 2022
183
256
Basketball is much different. They have 4 games per day at one venue. It seems that they get more "overflow" fans from other teams in the stands. It looks really bad when semi-final games have 200 fans. There aren't many places that could draw well. Are we going to give those few places perpetual host berths in the nationals?

Ottawa and Carleton once co-hosted the USports Final 8 and it was also played in front of an empty arena, despite being in the midst of Carleton's Hoops dynasty.

USports is just completely irrelevant in Ottawa.
 

AUS Fan

Registered User
Aug 1, 2008
4,112
1,855
At the Rink
Ottawa and Carleton once co-hosted the USports Final 8 and it was also played in front of an empty arena, despite being in the midst of Carleton's Hoops dynasty.

USports is just completely irrelevant in Ottawa.
That is correct. Halifax hosted for 1987 to 2007 and the event was successful. Halifax may be a lot of negative things, but it is a great "event" city.
 

hockeyguy0022

Registered User
Feb 20, 2016
429
217
Alberta, sask, unb always get good crowds. Easily over 10K for matchups with those teams. 5-6K for the other match ups historically from 13/14 and early 2000's
 

RED ARMY EAST

Registered User
Feb 14, 2010
1,937
288
Freddy Beach,N.B.Canada
  • Like
Reactions: FreddyFoyle

Rob

Registered User
Feb 27, 2002
9,149
1,574
New Brunswick
Visit site
Would absolutely love to, the last time we inquired about hosting in Moncton, the costs to run the tournament would have been astronomical.

Yes, I've heard the costs have increased. That is why I was surprised when the University of Ottawa was announced as a host. They draw flies for attendance. Maybe some alumni donated big $$$ to host the tournament?

Anyway it looks like UQTR will host in 2027. They should have a great atmosphere.
 

902RedIslander

Registered User
Nov 2, 2022
91
53
Would absolutely love to, the last time we inquired about hosting in Moncton, the costs to run the tournament would have been astronomical.
Yes, I've heard the costs have increased. That is why I was surprised when the University of Ottawa was announced as a host. They draw flies for attendance. Maybe some alumni donated big $$$ to host the tournament?

Anyway it looks like UQTR will host in 2027. They should have a great atmosphere.
Bid costs alone to host + other fees like the webcasts, etc. make it a heavily tilted endeavour to u sports

Depending on the school and athletic department, and the bid amount $$ aside, it has got to be a huge people effort for questionable payoff. I can totally understand why most schools aren't jumping at the opportunity.

I've always liked organization of the model that the NS schools do when hosting and outsource to a company like SEA. I'm sure that has its down sides though
 
  • Like
Reactions: timbitca

AUS Fan

Registered User
Aug 1, 2008
4,112
1,855
At the Rink
Bid costs alone to host + other fees like the webcasts, etc. make it a heavily tilted endeavour to u sports

Depending on the school and athletic department, and the bid amount $$ aside, it has got to be a huge people effort for questionable payoff. I can totally understand why most schools aren't jumping at the opportunity.

I've always liked organization of the model that the NS schools do when hosting and outsource to a company like SEA. I'm sure that has its down sides though
At least when they get SEA to run it, everything is done "professionally".
 
  • Like
Reactions: timbitca

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad