2024 Training Camp Thread

[Fred Glover]

Certainly they'll try a lot more things, but I think I have a good guess as to what the default is going to be.



Hmmm...

Jenner - Monahan - Marchenko
KJ - Voronkov - Chinakhov
JVR - Fantilli - Brindley
Silly/Olivier - Kuraly - Danforth

You may have a good guess but that is all it is
A guess
When the coach says everyone has a clean slate and he will learn alot more about the players in the upcoming games, then unless you are Nostradamus you don’t know

 

[majormajor]

This is why I wasn’t a big fan of picking up JJ. I get the veteran voice and the good vibes he brings, but having Christiansen as the extra guy made a lot of sense to me.

I suppose we could keep 8 D, we have before, but I think Christiansen is off to Cleveland.

JJ would be a perfectly fine 7 or 8 himself, I'm still hoping they've left open the possibility that Christiansen will be a spot or two ahead of JJ.

You may have a good guess but that is all it is
A guess
When the coach says everyone has a clean slate and he will learn alot more about the players in the upcoming games, then unless you are Nostradamus you don’t know

A clean slate means saying that you're confident a kid is going to be a top4D in the NHL this year? Despite never having played bottom pair well? That's not actually a clean slate.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

JJ would be a perfectly fine 7 or 8 himself, I'm still hoping they've left open the possibility that Christiansen will be a spot or two ahead of JJ.

I just don’t see the path for Christiansen to make it unless there’s an injury. I think he’s probably behind Harris, JJ, and maybe even Mateychuk.

 

[CBJx614]

I just don’t see the path for Christiansen to make it unless there’s an injury. I think he’s probably behind Harris, JJ, and maybe even Mateychuk.

There's always injuries though. He'll get his playing time this season.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Evason has already been pressed into talking up Jiricek's readiness, before he's even played an exhibition match. And he didn't look good today in scrimmage. And I'm obviously not happy that Sillinger looks to be getting the center job over the "LW" Voronkov - again this isn't something that Evason is deciding based on how they've played, it's just the priors of the organization heavily dictating what he starts with.

I'm still hopeful for Evason really taking over the team once he figures things out. He has high expectations for his players. Though if he's pushed to just be a development coach and not go all out to win, then I think that might become somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'd like to see him run with the players who are currently the best players, and if guys aren't ready, there's the AHL for that.

So it’s Rick Nash that’s doing this, giving Evason his marching orders regarding where and how to play young players? Because I thought we were getting a clean skate with the new GM.

 

[majormajor]

So it’s Rick Nash that’s doing this, giving Evason his marching orders regarding where and how to play young players? Because I thought we were getting a clean skate with the new GM.

I don't know who is saying what but Waddell was pressed to come in here and extend all of our RFA forwards and make a lot of moves before he had presided over a single game. And he didn't seem to be the guy who went back through 1000 hours of tape before doing any of it. Obviously the staff was giving him their priors.

And likewise Evason hasn't watched a ton of tape from before, which is fine, but at the same time you can observe from the lines and statements about what he's been told. Maybe not marching orders, I don't mean to presume that he hasn't been given authority. But the staff has priors and that's going to guide his early decisions.

I just don’t see the path for Christiansen to make it unless there’s an injury. I think he’s probably behind Harris, JJ, and maybe even Mateychuk.

Forgive me for making this distinction, but do you think Christiansen is behind JJ in terms of actual play or other factors?

 

[Fred Glover]

JJ would be a perfectly fine 7 or 8 himself, I'm still hoping they've left open the possibility that Christiansen will be a spot or two ahead of JJ.



A clean slate means saying that you're confident a kid is going to be a top4D in the NHL this year? Despite never having played bottom pair well? That's not actually a clean slate.

Porty wrote it
Porty said the HC seemed confident
But did he say it or did Porty surmise this?
I don’t know
Where did the HC say this? I missed it
Perhaps he did say it but I missed it so please provide where he said it

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Forgive me for making this distinction, but do you think Christiansen is behind JJ in terms of actual play or other factors?

Other factors mostly. Namely veteran leadership, good vibes, and PKing ability. They didn’t sign JJ just to waive him.

 

[majormajor]

Other factors mostly. Namely veteran leadership, good vibes, and PKing ability. They didn’t sign JJ just to waive him.

No but I think a reasonable place for JJ is as a #7/8D on a 23 man NHL roster. He's not getting sent down but that doesn't mean he should be an NHL regular either.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

But do they think Christiansen is going to be an NHL player because he does require waivers?

 

[majormajor]

Porty wrote it
Porty said the HC seemed confident
But did he say it or did Porty surmise this?
I don’t know
Where did the HC say this? I missed it
Perhaps he did say it but I missed it so please provide where he said it

That was in response to what CBJW quoted in post #223.

 

[Youngguns1380]

Voronkov is a better center than Sillinger. Unless their is a radical change to his game/skating he is definitely living a charmed life on being given the gifted center position.

As someone has said earlier there isn’t a clean slate when all kinds of remnants of the past (Nash and leftover coaches) are there to constantly remind Evason and Waddell of their preferences.

 

[Fred Glover]

That was in response to what CBJW quoted in post #223.

I read that
It is Porty surmising it in the Athletic

 

[majormajor]

(Nash and leftover coaches)

etc... etc... JD and Jarmo are still here.