2024 Training Camp Thread (Update 10/07: Roster Set)

[Rubi]

So.... seems like the one guy who got claimed nobody particularly cares about. Ironic

 

[Lunatik]

At least I didn't embarrass myself again

 

[DomBarr]

usually takes us 15-45 min to learn about waivers results

or Steinberg is on the ball

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843351974093435005

interesting that it is the one player nobody talked about that gets claimed.

 

[Lunatik]

interesting that it is the one player nobody talked about that gets claimed.

GMs are still enamored with size. They seem more likely to give big guys chances. Several of us from the start of camp suggested Schwindt might be a candidate to get claimed.

Edit: No, I am wrong, we were thinking Duehr had a chance to get claimed. Brain fog sucks

 

[super6646]

Glad that Pelletier cleared. Tbh I wouldn't have minded Schwindt over Rooney, but I never saw the upside.

For all the talk about him "not earning it" and it being his last legs, quite a few ppl said the same things about Honzek and Zary not too long ago (including some here who defended the latter two). I agree with the fact that Pelletier didn't have a good training camp, but sometimes that's just the way it blows. At some point, its about giving opportunity in the regular season to see if the player is truly up for it or not.

Yeah, Pelletier probably never pans out at this point. However, his AHL production in his D+3 and 4 seasons was notable enough that you could still see a path there. I'll reiterate what I said yesterday, it's disappointing that11/12 fwd roster spots were filled months ago. You can say whatever you like about encouraging competition and "if a prospect is better they'll beat the vets," but really that isn't how it works. When you have an Anthony Mantha making 3.5m, or a lomborgini making 2m, you aren't going to push those guys out of the lineup so easily. Oh well.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Imagine being told in September that not only would Honzek make the team out of camp, but nobody would be talking about it and half our fan base would be irate.

 

[Lunatik]

Glad that Pelletier cleared. Tbh I wouldn't have minded Schwindt over Rooney, but I never saw the upside.

For all the talk about him "not earning it" and it being his last legs, quite a few ppl said the same things about Honzek and Zary not too long ago (including some here who defended the latter two).

Ya, Pelletier probably never pans out at this point. However, his AHL production in his D+3 and 4 seasons was notable enough that you could still see a path there. I'll reiterate what I said yesterday, it's disappointing that11/12 fwd roster spots were filled months ago.

I still think Pelts will be a middle 6er. He just needs to stop playing scared. He was far more engaged physically before his pair of shoulder injuries

 

[super6646]

Imagine being told in September that not only would Honzek make the team out of camp, but nobody would be talking about it and half our fan base would be irate.

Nobody is irate by this? I think everyone was pleasantly surprised that Honzek showed a ton of potential after a disappointing D+1 production wise? We all want the success of the players?

Odd takes around here sometimes.

 

[Yepthatsme]

So we are electing to expose Pelletier so that waiver ineligible Coronato can start the year as our 13th forward instead?

Seems like a great decision.

Coronato stayed because Rango is hurt. Honzek won’t be an every game forward most likely unless he continues surprising everyone, and also is likely AHL bound before the 10 game mark. Coronato gets some sweet top 6 time to prove he deserves a permanent spot. This is pretty much the ideal situation for every single one of our young guys how this played out.

Now that Pelletier has cleared, can we all stop being dramatic and appreciate that all of Zary, Pospisil, Coronato, Wolf, and Honzek appear to be either getting big roles to start this year or exceeding expectations in Honzek’s case?

 

[Rubi]

Imagine being told in September that not only would Honzek make the team out of camp, but nobody would be talking about it and half our fan base would be irate.

So many thought it was a mistake to draft him at 16th. Personally I just don't know enough about Jr players to say one way or another so I just trust Conroy and the scouts that they kniw what they are doing. So far I think they are doing great.

 

[Lunatik]

Nobody is irate by this? I think everyone was pleasantly surprised that Honzek showed a ton of potential after a disappointing D+1 production wise? We all want the success of the players?

Odd takes around here sometimes.

I think it's just badly worded and he's referring more to Pelts being waived for Rooney and Hanley to make the team

 

[Yepthatsme]

Nobody is irate by this? I think everyone was pleasantly surprised that Honzek showed a ton of potential after a disappointing D+1 production wise? We all want the success of the players?

Odd takes around here sometimes.

Guess I could’ve been more clear and said the same news that told us he made it would have half the fan base losing their minds, but I think the point came across relatively straight forward.

 

[Boomstick]

Well, I'm ready. Let's get this season started. Should be an interesting year.

 

[Kranix]

Now that Pelletier has cleared, can we all stop being dramatic and appreciate that all of Zary, Pospisil, Coronato, Wolf, and Honzek appear to be either getting big roles to start this year or exceeding expectations in Honzek’s case?

Nope this is the organization that doesn't want young players to succeed, let alone have a chance to.

 

[Lunatik]

ROSTER UPDATE

GOALTENDERS

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS	CAMP STATUS
1	Cooley, Devin	27	$775,000		Cleared Waivers 10/07
32	Wolf, Dustin	23	$850,000	Exempt	In Camp
80	Vladar, Dan	27	$2,200,000		In Camp

DEFENSEMEN

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS	CAMP STATUS
4	Andersson, Rasmus	27	$4,550,000		In Camp
7	Bahl, Kevin	24	$1,050,000		In Camp
8	Barrie, Tyson	33	$1,250,000		In Camp
24	Bean, Jake	26	$1,750,000		In Camp
44	Hanley, Joel	33	$787,500		In Camp
52	Weegar, MacKenzie	30	$6,250,000		In Camp
62	Miromanov, Daniil	27	$1,250,000		In Camp
94	Pachal, Brayden	25	$775,000		In Camp

FORWARDS

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS	CAMP STATUS
10	Huberdeau, Jonathan	31	$10,500,000		In Camp
11	Backlund, Mikael	35	$4,500,000		In Camp
17	Sharangovich, Yegor	26	$3,100,000		In Camp
20	Coleman, Blake	32	$4,900,000		In Camp
21	Rooney, Kevin	31	$1,300,000		In Camp
22	Pelletier, Jakob	23	$800,000		Cleared Waivers 10/07
27	Coronato, Matt	21	$925,000	Exempt	In Camp
39	Mantha, Anthony	30	$3,500,000		In Camp
42	Honzek, Samuel	19	$918,333	Exempt	In Camp
43	Klapka, Adam	24	$775,000	Exempt	In Camp
47	Zary, Connor	22	$863,333		In Camp
70	Lomberg, Ryan	29	$2,000,000		In Camp
76	Pospisil, Martin	24	$1,000,000		In Camp
91	Kadri, Nazem	33	$7,000,000		In Camp
96	Kuzmenko, Andrei	28	$5,500,000		In Camp

LOST TO WAIVERS

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS	CAMP STATUS
79	Schwindt, Cole	23	$800,000		Claimed on Waivers by VGK 10/07

Spoiler: CUT PLAYERS

CUT PLAYERS

#	NAME	POSITION	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	CUT
3	Grushnikov, Artem	21	$814,167	Exempt	Cut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
15	Hunt, Dryden	28	$775,000		Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
26	Tinordi, Jarred	32	$800,000		Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
37	Kuznetsov, Yan	22	$775,000	Exempt	Cut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
40	Ignatjew, Waltteri	24	$870,000	Exempt	Cut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
45	Morton, Sam	25	$870,000	Exempt	Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
46	Aspirot, Jonathan	Defense	25	$775,000	Cut 09/29 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
48	Brzustewicz, Hunter	19	$950,000	Exempt	Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
49​	Basha, Andrew	Forward	18​	$897,500	Cut 09/26 - Assigned to Medicine Hat Tigers
50​	Radomsky, Matt	Goaltender	25​	AHL Contract	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
51​	Gridin, Matvei	Forward	18​	$975,000​	Cut 09/26 - Assigned to Shawinigan Cataractes
55​	Jamieson, Eric	Defenseman	19​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Everett Silvertips
53​	Laing, Hunter	Forwadr	18​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Prince George Cougars
56​	Mews, Henry	Defenseman	18​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Ottawa 67s
57	Jurmo, Joni	Defenseman	22	$850,000	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
58	Kirkland, Justin	28	$775,000		Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
59​	Morin, Etienne	Defenseman	19​	$903,400​	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Moncton Wildcats
60​	Battaglia, Jacob	Forward	18​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Kingston Frontenacs
61	Bishop, Clark	Forward	28	$775,000	Cut 09/29 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
63​	Janicke, Trevor	Forward	23​	AHL Contract	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
65	Stromgren, William	Forward	21	$900,833	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
67​	Hurtig, Axel	Defenseman	19​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Calgary Hitmen
71	Duehr, Walker	26	$825,000		Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
72	Poirier, Jeremie	Defenseman	22	$823,333	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
73	Lipinski, Jaden	Forward	19	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
74	Ciona, Lucas	Forward	21	$830,000	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
77​	Nikolaev, Ilya	Forward	23​	$836,667​	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
78​	Misa, Luke	Forward	18​	Unsigned Prospect	Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Brampton Steelheads
81​	Murphy, Connor	Goaltender	26​	AHL Contract	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
83​	Silye, David	Forwad	25​	AHL Contract	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
86​	Kerins, Rory	Forward	22​	$846,667​	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
87	Bell, Parker	Forward	23	$857,500	Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
89​	Parekh, Zayne	Defenseman	18​	$975,000​	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Saginaw Spirit
90​	Gallant, Alex	Forward	31​	AHL Contract	Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
93	Frk, Martin	30	$775,000		Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
95​	McNamara, Luke	Forward	19​	PTO	Cut 09/24 - Released from ATO
98	Solovyov, Ilya	24	$775,000		Cut 10/02 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers

.

 

[super6646]

I think it's just badly worded and he's referring more to Pelts being waived for Rooney and Hanley to make the team

That's the assumption I would've made from most posters, but that particular one isn't above getting a reaction (sorry @Yepthatsme nothing personal, just the observation I've gathered over the years).

Guess I could’ve been more clear and said the same news that told us he made it would have half the fan base losing their minds, but I think the point came across relatively straight forward.

Again, I just don't agree. I think it definitely would stun ppl but assuming all else was fair, I think the fans would be happy. I was certainly impressed with how Honzek trended in the pre-season (from a bad start at penticton to looking alright at the end, and then deciding he would go coast to coast on the PK haha).

 

[Yepthatsme]

That's the assumption I would've made from most posters, but that particular one isn't above getting a reaction (sorry @Yepthatsme nothing personal, just the observation I've gathered over the years).


Again, I just don't agree. I think it definitely would stun ppl but assuming all else was fair, I think the fans would be happy. I was certainly impressed with how Honzek trended in the pre-season (from a bad start at penticton to looking alright at the end, and then deciding he would go coast to coast on the PK haha).

…have you been reading this board the last 24 hours? I assumed most people would be happy too, but it was honestly somehow more of a footnote that our 19 year old prospect made the team. It’s wild.

Like if I need to clarify further, imagine telling yourself this summer that Honzek would make the team and 95% of the discourse on this board following the news would be pissed off fans venting.

 

[Some Other Flame]

…have you been reading this board the last 24 hours? I assumed most people would be happy too, but it was honestly somehow more of a footnote that our 19 year old prospect made the team. It’s wild.

Like if I need to clarify further, imagine telling yourself this summer that Honzek would make the team and 95% of the discourse on this board following the news would be pissed off fans venting.

Don't be disingenuous. No one's unhappy that Honzek made the team, folks are pissed the Flames are employing their usual bog standard asset management quote unquote strategy. For a rebuilding club, all of Pelletier, Coronato, & Honzek should be on the team at the same time. Mind boggling I know

Regardless, Schwindt is gone so today is a good day

 

[super6646]

…have you been reading this board the last 24 hours? I assumed most people would be happy too, but it was honestly somehow more of a footnote that our 19 year old prospect made the team. It’s wild.

Like if I need to clarify further, imagine telling yourself this summer that Honzek would make the team and 95% of the discourse on this board following the news would be pissed off fans venting.

Just going through this thread, it certainly isn't 95% pissed off venting lol. I think you are seeing what you want to see. Yes there is some of that, but there is also just as much earnest discussion about why Pelletier and co didn't earn a spot on the roster.

Now if you want to say we aren't discussing Honzek enough (so him being a footnote), that part I can get on board with. Nobody would've called that before the pre-season started, and I think its going to be exciting to see just what he can show. And if he isn't for the NHL, he showed enough in my eyes that he should be in the AHL rather than juniors.

 

[Yepthatsme]

Imagine being told in September that not only would Honzek make the team out of camp, but nobody would be talking about it and half our fan base would be irate.

Just going through this thread, it certainly isn't 95% pissed off venting lol. I think you are seeing what you want to see. Yes there is some of that, but there is also just as much earnest discussion about why Pelletier and co didn't earn a spot on the roster.

Now if you want to say we aren't discussing Honzek enough, that I can get on board with. Nobody would've called that before the pre-season started, and I think it’s going to be exciting to see just what he can show. And if he isn't for the NHL, he showed enough in my eyes that he should be in the AHL.

…and just like that we’ve circled back to my original post, that somehow we aren’t talking nearly enough about Honzek and half the people commenting since then have been pissed by the same news that told us.

Don't be disingenuous. No one's unhappy that Honzek made the team, folks are pissed the Flames are employing their usual bog standard asset management quote unquote strategy. For a rebuilding club, all of Pelletier, Coronato, & Honzek should be on the team at the same time. Bind boggling I know

Regardless, Schwindt is gone so today is a good day

Look at the post on the main boards about rookies making NHL opening lineups. We literally lead the league this year, what rebuilding club are you talking about?

 

[super6646]

…and just like that we’ve circled back to my original post, that somehow we aren’t talking nearly enough about Honzek and half the people commenting since then have been pissed by the same news that told us.


Look at the post on the main boards about rookies making NHL opening lineups. We literally lead the league this year, what rebuilding club are you talking about?

Well, I never disagreed with the first part. Anyways, I don't think we need to continue this one further. We both know we've had enough circular arguments to know when everything is settled

 

[Lunatik]

…have you been reading this board the last 24 hours? I assumed most people would be happy too, but it was honestly somehow more of a footnote that our 19 year old prospect made the team. It’s wild.

Like if I need to clarify further, imagine telling yourself this summer that Honzek would make the team and 95% of the discourse on this board following the news would be pissed off fans venting.

I mean while it looks extremely likely Honzo has made it, I won't celebrate until it's official. Being waived and clearing waivers aren't the same as being cut, so we still have 2 cuts to make

 

[Figgy44]

Just going through this thread, it certainly isn't 95% pissed off venting lol. I think you are seeing what you want to see. Yes there is some of that, but there is also just as much earnest discussion about why Pelletier and co didn't earn a spot on the roster.

Now if you want to say we aren't discussing Honzek enough (so him being a footnote), that part I can get on board with. Nobody would've called that before the pre-season started, and I think its going to be exciting to see just what he can show. And if he isn't for the NHL, he showed enough in my eyes that he should be in the AHL rather than juniors.

I don't know if it's irritated, but there's certainly confusion as to what happens over the next few months. I also think many fans are happy Honzek had a good showing, but are also tempering expectations to what happens after a month (not out of the realm he gets sent down after a cup of coffee).

Our prospect pipeline is also murky so we don't know what's happening next unless someone really separates themselves from the pack (none seem to have done so yet) or a major trade makes the expected outcome much clearer.

Honestly speaking, we truly have to wait and see what happens over the next few months. Things are about as clear as Kuzmenko's response to who he'd choose for 2v2 (and he'd choose 2 players, by listing 5). Hopefully the season just as entertaining as that response though.

 

[Lunatik]

FINAL ROSTER
GOALTENDERS

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS
32	Wolf, Dustin	23	$850,000	Exempt
80	Vladar, Dan	27	$2,200,000

DEFENSEMEN

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS
4	Andersson, Rasmus	27	$4,550,000
7	Bahl, Kevin	24	$1,050,000
8	Barrie, Tyson	33	$1,250,000
24	Bean, Jake	26	$1,750,000
44	Hanley, Joel	33	$787,500
52	Weegar, MacKenzie	30	$6,250,000
62	Miromanov, Daniil	27	$1,250,000
94	Pachal, Brayden	25	$775,000

FORWARDS

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	WAIVERS
10	Huberdeau, Jonathan	31	$10,500,000
11	Backlund, Mikael	35	$4,500,000
17	Sharangovich, Yegor	26	$3,100,000
20	Coleman, Blake	32	$4,900,000
21	Rooney, Kevin	31	$1,300,000
27	Coronato, Matt	21	$925,000	Exempt
39	Mantha, Anthony	30	$3,500,000
42	Honzek, Samuel	19	$918,333	Exempt
43	Klapka, Adam	24	$775,000	Exempt
47	Zary, Connor	22	$863,333
70	Lomberg, Ryan	29	$2,000,000
76	Pospisil, Martin	24	$1,000,000
91	Kadri, Nazem	33	$7,000,000
96	Kuzmenko, Andrei	28	$5,500,000

INJURED RESERVE

#	NAME	AGE	CONTRACT /CAP HIT	IR STATUS
17	Sharangovich, Yegor	26	$3,100,000	Placed on IR 10/07

https://x.com/i/web/status/1843358541337505933

 

[Volica]

Honestly, I'm a big proponent of savings prospects from clown shows.

I don't think this team will be very good. I don't think we have a defence that can hang consistently at the NHL level to be able to be able to string together wins like you have to do in the NHL. Brzustewicz and Parekh should be no where near the big club unless it's a cup of coffee to just understand the speed and what they need to improve on. Honzek making the team is a pleasant surprise, and on a high note at least he'll be playing with some legit NHLers.