NFL: 2024 Training Camp and Preseason

[Unholy Diver]

That seems like a bit much to be fining these guys considering they barely get paid anything in training camp, I know it is a broken record, but the players continually get screwed in their collective bargaining agreements

 

[StreetHawk]

That seems like a bit much to be fining these guys considering they barely get paid anything in training camp, I know it is a broken record, but the players continually get screwed in their collective bargaining agreements

Also consider, that if he doesn't have any guarantees on his contract, he could get $0 in game cheques if he is cut just before the final roster is finalized, which is like 24 hours before your game. He would be a vested veteran, so as long as he is on the 53 man roster within 24 hours of game 1, his $14 mill would then become fully guaranteed if it isn't right now.

This is the way it goes for the PA. Too many members. 53 on active roster, plus 16 on PS. 70 players basically. Times 32 teams is 2240 players. And only about 12-15 players on a roster make really good money, at $7 mill plus per season. The guys from round 2-7 and UDFA for the 4 years of the rookie contract average under $1 mill. So, those guys know that their time in the NFL is short and can't afford to miss cheques. As the last guy at each position group can be replaced on the main roster.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Also consider, that if he doesn't have any guarantees on his contract, he could get $0 in game cheques if he is cut just before the final roster is finalized, which is like 24 hours before your game. He would be a vested veteran, so as long as he is on the 53 man roster within 24 hours of game 1, his $14 mill would then become fully guaranteed if it isn't right now.

This is the way it goes for the PA. Too many members. 53 on active roster, plus 16 on PS. 70 players basically. Times 32 teams is 2240 players. And only about 12-15 players on a roster make really good money, at $7 mill plus per season. The guys from round 2-7 and UDFA for the 4 years of the rookie contract average under $1 mill. So, those guys know that their time in the NFL is short and can't afford to miss cheques. As the last guy at each position group can be replaced on the main roster.

So in theory, if Reddick holds out all of training camp and gets cut before the season starts he could end up like 3 million in the hole

 

[StreetHawk]

So in theory, if Reddick holds out all of training camp and gets cut before the season starts he could end up like 3 million in the hole

I would doubt that if he doesn't get a game check that you recoup that money from him. Probably designed to withhold pay vs send it to collections. But, it would be a waste of 3rd round pick. They knew he wanted a new deal from Philly when they acquired him.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821223878703903060

 

[StreetHawk]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821223878703903060

If other starters are not playing it doesn’t matter who starts. How many of Adams, Miller, etc are going to play on Offence?

 

[Troy McClure]

The Browns owners want to move the team to a suburb and put them in what looks like a large airplane hanger.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821256790069407860

 

[Unholy Diver]

The Browns owners want to move the team to a suburb and put them in what looks like a large airplane hanger.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1821256790069407860

The last time they moved they finally won a superbowl, maybe they should try someplace a little further out

 

[StreetHawk]

Does seem like we are going to see more translucent "dome" stadiums moving forward for the northern markets. If the city is paying a major chunk of it, I can see them wanting more events in it vs have nothing but the NFL from Oct to Jan. Plus, cover the months of Feb and March and possibly April too. Going to lose the essence of football, but I get the economics of it.

Just have to compare Indy, Det, Minny who are in domes vs Pitt, Cle, Cin, Chi, GB in open air, in that mid west to great lakes region of the difference in events in that time frame.

Ideally, like to see them keep a grass field.

 

[John Price]

some rumors that the new Washington stadium would be a dome, no need for domes here

i know they make more money for march madness and the final four and other events but football was meant to be played outside

 

[StreetHawk]

some rumors that the new Washington stadium would be a dome, no need for domes here

i know they make more money for march madness and the final four and other events but football was meant to be played outside

I agree, but who's paying for the stadium? You'd want to get the max return for it. Outside of the sky, a retractable roof doesn't let more light in than a translucent one does. And for the 9 figures in extra costs, I can see why they'd go fixed roof.

For half a year from Oct to March (at least), what's the difference in other events that the dome stadiums can hold vs open air? Is it like 10, 15, 20, more of the 180 available days?

But, certainty going to lose the essence of football under a roof.

 

[Troy McClure]

Does seem like we are going to see more translucent "dome" stadiums moving forward for the northern markets. If the city is paying a major chunk of it, I can see them wanting more events in it vs have nothing but the NFL from Oct to Jan. Plus, cover the months of Feb and March and possibly April too. Going to lose the essence of football, but I get the economics of it.

Just have to compare Indy, Det, Minny who are in domes vs Pitt, Cle, Cin, Chi, GB in open air, in that mid west to great lakes region of the difference in events in that time frame.

Ideally, like to see them keep a grass field.

That's the main problem. The open air stadium in Cleveland sits empty for all but a dozen events a year.

Football played in weather is the best football, but no one is putting up billions of dollars to have a stadium sit unused most of the year.

 

[StreetHawk]

That's the main problem. The open air stadium in Cleveland sits empty for all but a dozen events a year.

Football played in weather is the best football, but no one is putting up billions of dollars to have a stadium sit unused most of the year.

Just using Lucas Oil stadium, from Oct to March, I can see 8 Entertainment events, and 4 sporting events (1 NCAA for big 10 championship game, and 3 NCAA March Madness games).

From Aug 8 to Sep this year, it's 4 Entertainment and 1 sporting event.

These stadiums, even a dome one, outside of the NFL, over 8 months is still very limited use of like 12 Entertainment and 4 other sporting events. Unless, this is an unusually low booking year.

 

[Blitzkrug]

some rumors that the new Washington stadium would be a dome, no need for domes here

i know they make more money for march madness and the final four and other events but football was meant to be played outside

Right, because the only dome you need in regards to Washington football is polishing dan synder's dome.

 

[Unholy Diver]

That's the main problem. The open air stadium in Cleveland sits empty for all but a dozen events a year.

Football played in weather is the best football, but no one is putting up billions of dollars to have a stadium sit unused most of the year.

but are there really that many events that need a 55K+ seat venue in the winter to make it worth the extra costs?

 

[StreetHawk]

but are there really that many events that need a 55K+ seat venue in the winter to make it worth the extra costs?

I listed what Lucas Oil in Indy had from Aug 8 (didn't get access to the past week). I think of the 12 days of Entertainment events, 3 of the events were the same thing, like a Swift concert, for example. So, only like 5 unique events if you will over 8 months at Lucas Oil. So, not many.

But, I would also assume, there is more wear and tear for an open air stadium than a Dome one since it's exposed to the elements.

 

[GKJ]

Outdoor football is an endangered species. They’re gonna build that stadium outside Buffalo and regret not putting a roof on within 5 years. And having it in Buffalo.

 

[GKJ]

but are there really that many events that need a 55K+ seat venue in the winter to make it worth the extra costs?

How else these places gonna host a royal rumble?

 

[Unholy Diver]

How else these places gonna host a royal rumble?

they will just have to settle for the biggest party of the summer

 

[John Price]

Metcalf swings helmet at fight-riddled practice

At least five fights broke out at Seattle Seahawks practice on Wednesday, including one in which star wide receiver DK Metcalf swung a helmet at cornerback Tre Brown.

www.espn.com

 

[John Price]

 

[GKJ]

 

[Unholy Diver]

maybe a new darkhorse entry for Aiyuk?

Sucks for Moore, the eternal midseason fantasy pickup when your WR goes down and you need a guy who might get you 4-6 points

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

If you care enough to talk about these games, it goes here.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Drake Maye is in...Pats not really letting him cook though.