Transfer: 2024 Summer Transfer Window - Open Window Discussion

[Blender]

Veiga was bought as a backup to Cucurella, who will be playing as an inverted fullback/wingback (i.e. where the CB or DM slots in possession). He can also fill in other places if needed.

This isn't hard.

 

[Savant]

Im not the one making this hard

 

[luiginb]

Im not the one making this hard

That's what she said

 

[Peen]

Genuinely a really stupid person

 

[Jussi]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820537766792556885

 

[S E P H]

So, Chelsea bought an awful player to allow Atletico to buy a superior player in his place?

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

So, Chelsea bought an awful player to allow Atletico to buy a superior player in his place?

that appears to be correct, yep.

i don't think i've watched a single minute of Omoriodon, so i'm deferring to other people's judgement on this. but i'll just say that if we were gonna buy an unproven 20 year old forward (something i did not want) i would've rather we had just committed to the bit and gone for Jhon Duran as had previously been rumoured lmao

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

but it all betrays the very silly faulty and (crucially) uninformed by how sports work logic at the basis of everything blueco has done: load up on prospects and they'll develop and you'll be set.

finance bros think of a prospect as an asset, but not just in the purely financial sense which has been widely discussed (player has this value which will increase and we can resell). they also think that prospects develop like assets develop, without the contingencies that are required to produce that development. you can buy a house and sit on it and forces totally external to you will increase the value of that house. they do not understand that prospect development requires a lot of things to go right and requires a lot of active work. a key component of that active work is surrounding prospects with experienced players who can provide guidance.

chelsea! need! veterans! CHELSEA! NEED! VETERANS!

 

[bleedblue1223]

but it all betrays the very silly faulty and (crucially) uninformed by how sports work logic at the basis of everything blueco has done: load up on prospects and they'll develop and you'll be set.

finance bros think of a prospect as an asset, but not just in the purely financial sense which has been widely discussed (player has this value which will increase and we can resell). they also think that prospects develop like assets develop, without the contingencies that are required to produce that development. you can buy a house and sit on it and forces totally external to you will increase the value of that house. they do not understand that prospect development requires a lot of things to go right and requires a lot of active work. a key component of that active work is surrounding prospects with experienced players who can provide guidance.

chelsea! need! veterans! CHELSEA! NEED! VETERANS!

In theory, convince Osimhen to agree to a loan with purchase obligation with a wage structure that is somewhat dependent on performance, so that he still nets his demands. We get our vet, but then it just further calls into question the Omorodion deal.

 

[S E P H]

that appears to be correct, yep.

i don't think i've watched a single minute of Omoriodon, so i'm deferring to other people's judgement on this. but i'll just say that if we were gonna buy an unproven 20 year old forward (something i did not want) i would've rather we had just committed to the bit and gone for Jhon Duran as had previously been rumoured lmao

I don't think Man City is selling Alvarez to a rival EPL club, but you lot could've gone in for freakin' Jonathan David over Omoriodon at this point, and I am not a David fan.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

In theory, convince Osimhen to agree to a loan with purchase obligation with a wage structure that is somewhat dependent on performance, so that he still nets his demands. We get our vet, but then it just further calls into question the Omorodion deal.

nah, f*** that.

he's not a vet either! he's 25! and the star power (regardless of whether or not it is earned in on-pitch play - he's a player i like but i could see it being bad) will carry too much clout.

we have a striker who is fully capable of being a top striker for a team that finishes top 4, alongside a second striker with a great track record who was dangerous in the bursts of health he had last year and an attacking midfielder with a slipperiness that is hard to deal with (although i worry about him being negatively impacted by the hyper-structuredness of Sr. Maresca).

goals are just simply not the problem in this team. we scored more last year than we have in all but, like, three seasons in the PL era. we scored more than we did in most of our title winning seasons.

I don't think Man City is selling Alvarez to a rival EPL club, but you lot could've gone in for freakin' Jonathan David over Omoriodon at this point, and I am not a David fan.

screw alvarez and screw david! the last thing this team needs to do is spend tons of money on an upgrade at striker!

 

[luiginb]

Ezequiel Fernandez, the only Argentinian who impressed me against France in the Olympic squad unfortunately signs for a second tier Saudi club for almost 19 million. Such a shame, he's only 22 and he's gonna play with a bunch of no names and has beens like Auba and Nacho

 

[bleedblue1223]

nah, f*** that.

he's not a vet either! he's 25! and the star power (regardless of whether or not it is earned in on-pitch play - he's a player i like but i could see it being bad) will carry too much clout.

we have a striker who is fully capable of being a top striker for a team that finishes top 4, alongside a second striker with a great track record who was dangerous in the bursts of health he had last year and an attacking midfielder with a slipperiness that is hard to deal with (although i worry about him being negatively impacted by the hyper-structuredness of Sr. Maresca).

goals are just simply not the problem in this team. we scored more last year than we have in all but, like, three seasons in the PL era. we scored more than we did in most of our title winning seasons.


screw alvarez and screw david! the last thing this team needs to do is spend tons of money on an upgrade at striker!

I agree, just get a cheap reliable vet like when we got Giroud.

It's crazy that being 25 would make him one of our oldest players.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820551753743646847

f*** deco f*** Laporta

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I agree, just get a cheap reliable vet like when we got Giroud.

It's crazy that being 25 would make him one of our oldest players.

we didn't need to spend a cent this summer, tbh.

we finished 5 points off fourth, while experiencing major growing pains throughout most of the season, and without a guy who was meant to be our star player for basically the whole season, our captain for basically the whole season, and (potentially) our best centre back for half the season. no overhauls necessary! if the season had lasted even three more matchweeks we would've finished fourth.

instead we're run by idiots! so there's no year-to-year consistency, we're doing another full overhaul which will require more transition and more growing pains.

we could've had our only signings this summer be, like, Joselu and Hojbjerg, and we would've been set

but alas

 

[bleedblue1223]

we didn't need to spend a cent this summer, tbh.

we finished 5 points off fourth, while experiencing major growing pains throughout most of the season, and without a guy who was meant to be our star player for basically the whole season, our captain for basically the whole season, and (potentially) our best centre back for half the season. no overhauls necessary! if the season had lasted even three more matchweeks we would've finished fourth.

instead we're run by idiots! so there's no year-to-year consistency, we're doing another full overhaul which will require more transition and more growing pains.

we could've had our only signings this summer be, like, Joselu and Hojbjerg, and we would've been set

but alas

Especially when guys like Lavia are more or less new additions.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Not sure about the sources but that’s an insane price. Madrid could’ve unsettled him I think.

I came to post the link and I forgot to paste it lol. Thanks @spintheblackcircle

 

[Vasilevskiy]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1820551753743646847

f*** deco f*** Laporta

This is a great signing for them, even though I get your doubts about him playing for Cholo. I genuinely think they just became contenders for La Liga, like real contenders.

By the way, they have spent almost 200 million euros net spending. Where is the FFP for them?

 

[luiginb]

This is a great signing for them, even though I get your doubts about him playing for Cholo. I genuinely think they just became contenders for La Liga, like real contenders.

By the way, they have spent almost 200 million euros net spending. Where is the FFP for them?

When they have Chelsea paying 35 mil for guys they loan out to Alaves...

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

This is a great signing for them, even though I get your doubts about him playing for Cholo. I genuinely think they just became contenders for La Liga, like real contenders.

By the way, they have spent almost 200 million euros net spending. Where is the FFP for them?

Playing for Cholo is a hazard for most footballers. I think he’s safe but he won’t be able to hit his potential. They’re not winning shit lol

Selling some kid to chelski helps. We still have Langlet on the team

 

[Blender]

we didn't need to spend a cent this summer, tbh.

we finished 5 points off fourth, while experiencing major growing pains throughout most of the season, and without a guy who was meant to be our star player for basically the whole season, our captain for basically the whole season, and (potentially) our best centre back for half the season. no overhauls necessary! if the season had lasted even three more matchweeks we would've finished fourth.

instead we're run by idiots! so there's no year-to-year consistency, we're doing another full overhaul which will require more transition and more growing pains.

we could've had our only signings this summer be, like, Joselu and Hojbjerg, and we would've been set

but alas

This is why pushing Gallagher to accept a transfer was extra f***ing dumb as well. I'd say it's likely Maresca only lasts a season or two and the next manager will probably have a different philosophy again.

Might as well have kept Potter at this rate.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Playing for Cholo is a hazard for most footballers. I think he’s safe but he won’t be able to hit his potential. They’re not winning shit lol

Selling some kid to chelski helps. We still have Langlet on the team

Look at their signings.
Massive upgrades with Julian and Sorloth over Morata and Correa.
Gallagher and Le Normand.
Samu Lino should take another step forward (he's already a fantastic player), Barrios as well.

I think you're underrating them. They only lost Savic and Hermoso, and Le Normand is a more realiable player than them. Their only weak point is Gimenez health

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Look at their signings.
Massive upgrades with Julian and Sorloth over Morata and Correa.
Gallagher and Le Normand.
Samu Lino should take another step forward (he's already a fantastic player), Barrios as well.

I think you're underrating them. They only lost Savic and Hermoso, and Le Normand is a more realiable player than them. Their only weak point is Gimenez health

They could sign Medina to shore up LCB. He needs to move on.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

This is why pushing Gallagher to accept a transfer was extra f***ing dumb as well. I'd say it's likely Maresca only lasts a season or two and the next manager will probably have a different philosophy again.

Might as well have kept Potter at this rate.

Would be typical Chelsea to do this.

Club needs some consistency, it really feels like they playing FM but with mediocre results instead of winning most of your competitions

Selling Gallagher to fund Omorodion is one of the dumbest things I've seen in the last years. And being a Barça fan I've seen plenty