David is good. He's very comparable to Werner in fact. Total effort guy who isn't the best in front of the net.
I'd say he's better than Werner still.
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I'd say he's better than Werner still.
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David probably isn't the big splash you would want to make as Chelsea. But he is extremely efficient and a great complimentary player. I think with the right fit he can be extremely effective at a higher level.
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Replacement for Mbappe tbh. They finally got serious about winning a CL
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7 goals in 11 appearances for a midfielder seems really good?
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He’s a forward. Was moved around a bit across the front line but definitely an attacking third player here
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5th in goals/90. The response to this is simply unhinged. Outproduced Deivid Washington, but people want to pretend that he'd a no name with no potential and other similar prospects don't go for similar money.
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PL2.
Don't know anything about the player but saw that tweet posted elsewhere and the difference in the transfermarkt evaluation and the price was eye catching.
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He mostly played as an attacking midfielder or on the wing, not as a striker.
There's been huge cost inflation in prospects over the last 4-5 years.
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He’s an attacking third player. He’s not a #8 so I would say that he has an impressive PL2 goal haul for a midfield when he isn’t primarily played in the midfield. It’s still not bad but again it’s not like Chelsea signed him because of his PL2 credentials either
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I'm sure he's a very good prospect but I'm tired of us wasting what must be 100M+++ now on prospects rather than just spending that money on a striker, an LB since Chilwell's f***ed, etc.
Like it's good to have some youth players with high end potential but they've just gone off the deep end on this at the cost of improving the actual first team with good experienced players.
Like it's good to have some youth players with high end potential but they've just gone off the deep end on this at the cost of improving the actual first team with good experienced players.
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If Kellyman is worth 20m based on potential, you are basically just saying anyone decent at PL2 level is worth 20m. This is not a truth.
You know last yeah and a half I was tarred and feathered for saying Chelsea was intentionally ruining market values and especially if we want to consider Kellyman being worth 20m as a truth, this is just more evidence of that. There is literally no one else besides Chelsea doing this. The only two comparisons from this are also Chelsea doing the same thing.
There is nothing that you can quantify this transfer with, keeping a straight face, that says Kellyman is a 20m player. It’s price fixing to cheat PSR rules, and it’s being facilitated by two teams that failed it. This isn’t rocket science
Yeah but you can’t manipulate the price tags on those senior players to make the PSR numbers work
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His goal scoring rate in PL2 at his age is impressive for a #10. Feel free to go look that up, as you easily can.
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You might be more easily impressed than me. There are plenty that put up goals at PL2 level and don’t even settle in the Championship. No one plays defense in PL2
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Your ability to move a conversation into ridiculous hyperbole is impressive.
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How is this hyperbole? This is what happened. This is clear as day price fixing. This is The same the Arthur/Pjanjc transfer that Juve got sanctioned for. There is nothing inaccurate in this post
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The highest scoring U19 player in PL2 last season had 15 goals in 16 appearances. The highest scoring U19 attacking midfielders had 10 goals in 13 appearances and 10 goals in 18 appearances.
7 goals in 11 appearances is near the top of the league for his age cohort and position.
"anyone decent at PL2 level is worth 20m" is absurd hyperbole.
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And again no one defends in that league.
it is not hyperbole when the argument is “20m based on potential” when no one on the planet not associated with Chelsea or Aston Villa would have valued this player at 20m. If a player like Kellyman is worth 20m all of a sudden, then the market is now PL2 players are worth 20m whether their CV justifies it or not.
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This is in no way a valid response to the relative scoring rates of players in the same league at the same ages.
There are players in the 20s and 30s in the PL2 and plenty of mediocre and weak prospects. Your claim that because one is going for 20m that means anyone in the league could be worth that is nonsensical.
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I noticed there was a line that Chelsea had enquired about Kellyman in January.
if that happens, I'd be very interested in Palace this upcoming season. They look real good and a summer to work with Glasner.
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It’s not nonsensical though. It’s either the market is being redefined by Chelsea, again, as we speak or the new expectation is youth players are either all PSR pawns and/or worth 20m based on potential. That’s the nonsense part of this.
How about this. You find me something that was written in May 2024 or earlier that said Kellyman is worth 20m for a transfer this window and then we can talk about hyperbole.
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
And I’m sure he was also worth 20m then
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You are continuing to ignore what you actually said, that anyone in the PL2 could be worth that. You're not even responding to what I am saying, so there is little point in continuing this conversation. I didn't say "Kellyman is worth 20m" as I think that fee is inflated. That doesn't mean he isn't a good prospect and hasn't performed well in the PL2, both those things are also true.
