GDT: 2024 Summer Free Agency (July 1st)

[Adam Michaels]

Why would the Slovak media know anything about what was offered ? The Montreal media can barely get any information.

Here is Marco D'Amico's take, which would make sense why a Slovak media outlet would have the deal and no Montreal media has that info:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811656354739683502

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811660800223838539

Hockey30 being used as a source definitely shows you how legitimate this supposed proposal is.


Also, I doubt Jets would turn down three 1st round picks for McGroarty: Mesar + Barron + 2025 1st.

 

[Andrei79]

Montreal media sucks major ass, so that's probably why

The Slovakian media doesn't know shit.

 

[schwang26]

I really wish the rumours about Pacioretty coming back would go away. I want to puke every time I see that headline.

 

[Tyson]

I really wish the rumours about Pacioretty coming back would go away. I want to puke every time I see that headline.

Max needs to retire. Two blown Achilles heels in succession for a game built on speed...

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Not the point, Evans could easily be important for the contention window, he's not blocking Beck who we shouldn't even think about making a place for yet. Just move Evans to the wing if necessary.

As mentioned by Rapala, he's a soft forward not winning any battles in corners, not blocking many shots, not efficient in offense and he's the main pk player of one of the worst team in pk for the last 3 years. Outside his 52% FO and a decent skating, I don't see skills and or player that makes his teamates better.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I really wish the rumours about Pacioretty coming back would go away. I want to puke every time I see that headline.

There’s lots of pukeworthy takes in recent pages, bringing back the Ghost of Patioready, RHP in the lineup opening night, Armia putting it together for a full season

Madness has sunk in with no actual news to reports

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Here is Marco D'Amico's take, which would make sense why a Slovak media outlet would have the deal and no Montreal media has that info:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811656354739683502

https://x.com/i/web/status/1811660800223838539

Hockey30 being used as a source definitely shows you how legitimate this supposed proposal is.


Also, I doubt Jets would turn down three 1st round picks for McGroarty: Mesar + Barron + 2025 1st.

It’s the equivalent of 3 1st rounders like Poehling, Juulsen and Scherbak were 1st rounders, nothing of real value we will miss

 

[WeThreeKings]

It’s the equivalent of 3 1st rounders like Poehling, Juulsen and Scherbak were 1st rounders, nothing of real value we will miss

McGroarty is a 1st rounder just like those guys too.

 

[Rapala]

A 4th line center is not there to put up points - and he still does that at a pretty solid rate, he averages nearly 30 pts a season. Again, he was a big part of our PK as it started to level back up during the year and he has had 52% faceoff rate in the last two seasons.

He's got speed. He's good at faceoffs. He's a good penalty killer. He is efficient from a cost perspective. He's a good teammate and he has enough offense to chip in.

What are you expectations for a 4C because I really challenge people to look around the league and see what is out there. People aren't stashing superstars down there.

I've said my piece. We have better option coming up and don't try to tell me there aren't others out there.
Jake McBain 5 years younger is bigger and stronger and is paid less.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I've said my piece. We have better option coming up and don't try to tell me there aren't others out there.
Jake McBain 5 years younger is bigger and stronger and is paid less.

I never said he was the best, he's exactly what you'd expect and hope out of the role. Painting him as a problem we need to upgrade on or get rid of is just not true.

When someone else can come up and do the things he does for less, they'll move him. No one is poised to do that right now. Jack McBain being a 4C was acquired for a high 2nd round pick, you want to pay that value for someone who is a marginal at best upgrade on your 4C that was a 7th round pick?

 

[LaP]

Also, I doubt Jets would turn down three 1st round picks for McGroarty: Mesar + Barron + 2025 1st.

If they are in a position where they have to trade McGro that certainly would be an offer to think about. Not sure they'll get more than that.

 

[Rapala]

I never said he was the best, he's exactly what you'd expect and hope out of the role. Painting him as a problem we need to upgrade on or get rid of is just not true.

When someone else can come up and do the things he does for less, they'll move him. No one is poised to do that right now. Jack McBain being a 4C was acquired for a high 2nd round pick, you want to pay that value for someone who is a marginal at best upgrade on your 4C that was a 7th round pick?

I'm painting him as a role player that needs to be upgraded.
I'd do it this off season if possible.
He's not a problem at all he can be easily moved.

 

[Treb]

I'm painting him as a role player that needs to be upgraded.
I'd do it this off season if possible.
He's not a problem at all he can be easily moved.

Ideally, this is the kind of upgrade you do last, in your contending years.

I wouldn't replace Evans now (or next year) unless a bona fide long term upgrade is achievable without overpayment. Obviously, this is assuming he doesn't price himself out.

If anything, we might replace him internally in a few years by the loser of the Beck/Kapanen fight for 3C. Maybe even Xhekaj if he sticks to C as a pro.

 

[The Real Timo]

WHy is this McGroaty guy seems to be so highly thought of... if he was that good why would Jets be willing to trade him? But, I am all for him coming here for Barron and Harris. And Dvorak.
And Gallagher.

 

[Rapala]

Ideally, this is the kind of upgrade you do last, in your contending years.

I wouldn't replace Evans now (or next year) unless a bona fide long term upgrade is achievable without overpayment. Obviously, this is assuming he doesn't price himself out.

If anything, we might replace him internally in a few years by the loser of the Beck/Kapanen fight for 3C. Maybe even Xhekaj if he sticks to C as a pro.

When you are a bottom dwelling team in a rebuild you do it when the opportunity pops up.
Which is what I've been arguing since March there is no specific order that's crazy.
If we get our top 6 guy we take him if we get our long term specialist we take him.
The earlier we put the pieces together the more time they have to gel as a team.

 

[schwang26]

There’s lots of pukeworthy takes in recent pages, bringing back the Ghost of Patioready, RHP in the lineup opening night, Armia putting it together for a full season

Madness has sunk in with no actual news to reports

I think RHP’s time is up. They see now that they can do better. I do think Armia has a chance at a good full season though. He’ll be playing for either a contract or a trade. Even playing “half a season” he still hit a career high in goals last year. He can be frustrating but people blow his contract way out of proportion.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

I think RHP’s time is up. They see now that they can do better. I do think Armia has a chance at a good full season though. He’ll be playing for either a contract or a trade. Even playing “half a season” he still hit a career high in goals last year. He can be frustrating but people blow his contract way out of proportion.

Armia was also a huge reason our PK improved. From October - December we had the second worst PK in the league, in the second half of the year our PK was top 7 with Armia playing over 3 minutes a game on it.

 

[schwang26]

Armia was also a huge reason our PK improved. From October - December we had the second worst PK in the league, in the second half of the year our PK was top 7 with Armia playing over 3 minutes a game on it.

When he’s on, he’s a great forechecker and steals pucks like I’ve never seen. That plus 15-maybe 20 goals (he’s been on that pace) for his contract? I think it’s good. I’m still shocked he didn’t go at the deadline last year. Probably cap issues, but I can easily see it happening this year. They could actually resign him too if he does well.

 

[Skip Bayless]

When he’s on, he’s a great forechecker and steals pucks like I’ve never seen. That plus 15-maybe 20 goals (he’s been on that pace) for his contract? I think it’s good. I’m still shocked he didn’t go at the deadline last year. Probably cap issues, but I can easily see it happening this year. They could actually resign him too if he does well.

When Armia plays like he played last year, he is totally worth his contract.

If he plays like that again, I would totally do short term, 1 or 2 years after that.

 

[LaP]

Ideally, this is the kind of upgrade you do last, in your contending years.

I wouldn't replace Evans now (or next year) unless a bona fide long term upgrade is achievable without overpayment. Obviously, this is assuming he doesn't price himself out.

If anything, we might replace him internally in a few years by the loser of the Beck/Kapanen fight for 3C. Maybe even Xhekaj if he sticks to C as a pro.

It depends what's offered for him at the deadline. He would certainly not be someone i would hold on if a GM goes crazy and offer a 2nd or even 3rd round round pick. He is easily replaceable and we have many prospect whose floor is around what he provides (Roy, Mesar, Kapanen, Beck and even a guys like Tuch or Rohrer could eventually play such a role). I mean don't think i would extend him at 2 millions and that's likely what he'll want to get as a UFA.

 

[Treb]

When you are a bottom dwelling team in a rebuild you do it when the opportunity pops up.
Which is what I've been arguing since March there is no specific order that's crazy.
If we get our top 6 guy we take him if we get our long term specialist we take him.
The earlier we put the pieces together the more time they have to gel as a team.

4th liners are often short term assets.

As I said, it's fine if it's a long term upgrade, but we shouldn't be spending assets on a guy that might not be there when we actually contend.

In the UFAs next summer, I don't see many who would fit the bill so it would likely be via trade.

 

[Rapala]

Armia was also a huge reason our PK improved. From October - December we had the second worst PK in the league, in the second half of the year our PK was top 7 with Armia playing over 3 minutes a game on it.

The only reason our PK improved.
I said it last season I'm not interested in trading "this" Armia.
He can play a role until TDL for sure.

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

The only reason our PK improved.
I said it last season I'm not interested in trading "this" Armia.
He can play a role until TDL for sure.

Evans also had a huge role in helping the PK and was great to end the season. He averaged the 7th most SH TOI in the league which is crazy because he was the only forward in the top 20.

 

[Rapala]

4th liners are often short term assets.

As I said, it's fine if it's a long term upgrade, but we shouldn't be spending assets on a guy that might not be there when we actually contend.

In the UFAs next summer, I don't see many who would fit the bill so it would likely be via trade.

I expected it via a trade or a short term UFA. The UFA's were not interested in short term.
I think we already have the goods in our system but they need time to develop a bit.

 

[Treb]

It depends what's offered for him at the deadline. He would certainly not be someone i would hold on if a GM goes crazy and offer a 2nd or even 3rd round round pick. He is easily replaceable and we have many prospect whose floor is around what he provides (Roy, Mesar, Kapanen, Beck and even a guys like Tuch or Rohrer could eventually play such a role). I mean don't think i would extend him at 2 millions and that's likely what he'll want to get as a UFA.

Of course, if someone makes a crazy offer you look at it.

Or if he prices himself out, as I said.