Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season - Complete without a great title in keeping with the performance

[canucksfan]

Love that Verdugo was the final out as well.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Always enjoy seeing former Jays coming back and cutting their niche on TV providing insight during the playoffs.

Nice to see Pillar taking his turn. I've enjoyed his perspective.

 

[Blitzkrug]

If Cashman lets Boone go, if I am running the Jays I fire Schneider and hire Booney right away.

I'mma need you to take this back. Boone is a godawful manager and he just showed why tonight.

Dude is completely oblivious to the game as it happens around him. Anyone with half a brain is pulling Cole earlier in the 5th given the vibes/body language showed he was floundering. Not Boone though.

He got outmanaged by god damn Dave Roberts of all people. That in itself is a firable offense.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Yankees lost.

I think that's a bit more accurate than "Dodgers won". Not to take anything away from their performance, but the Yankees really blew it.

Good to see - I'm one of the (many) people whose second-favourite baseball team is whoever is playing the Yankees.

 

[br73]

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[Hellcat]

Yankees lost.

I think that's a bit more accurate than "Dodgers won". Not to take anything away from their performance, but the Yankees really blew it.

Good to see - I'm one of the (many) people whose second-favourite baseball team is whoever is playing the Yankees.

That meltdown makes the Leafs meltdowns in Boston , look like a minor thing. I've never seen, in a deciding game, such a complete meltdown, from virtually any Yankee who touched the ball.

I'mma need you to take this back. Boone is a godawful manager and he just showed why tonight.

Dude is completely oblivious to the game as it happens around him. Anyone with half a brain is pulling Cole earlier in the 5th given the vibes/body language showed he was floundering. Not Boone though.

He got outmanaged by god damn Dave Roberts of all people. That in itself is a firable offense.

When the team was melting down, Boone did nothing to give the team a breather... something as simple as a time out to stop the Dodgers momentum ... nada nothing.. just chewed on his seeds and daydreamed about his fishing trip next week...

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Sad that he has to retire so young. I remember when he was a top-level prospect just yesterday.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5888349/2024/10/31/alex-kirilloff-retires-minnesota-twins/

Minnesota Twins first baseman Alex Kirilloff stunningly retired at age 26 on Thursday morning.

Citing numerous injuries sustained over his career and the toll they’ve taken, the former top-10 prospect in baseball announced his retirement days before his 27th birthday.

Kirilloff debuted during the 2020 postseason, but wrist, labrum and back injuries — which led to several surgeries — limited him to 249 major-league games over the past four seasons. He was projected to make $1.8 million in arbitration and was possibly a non-tender candidate.


An outstanding minor-league hitter, Kirilloff looked to be destined for stardom after he was selected 15th overall by the Twins in the 2016 MLB Draft. He batted .324/.380/.524 over parts of seven minor-league seasons and ranked as high as No. 9 in Major League Baseball’s top-100 prospect rankings ahead of the 2019 season.

“After nine seasons in professional baseball, I’m announcing my decision to step away from the game today,” Kirilloff said in a Twins press release. “Baseball has always been a cornerstone of my life. Starting with my childhood in western Pennsylvania, where I grew up as the son of a baseball coach. Spending countless hours in the batting cages, hitting hundreds of balls daily, fueled my dream of playing Major League Baseball. Living that dream has been an absolute joy — and this journey has been filled with unforgettable moments, challenges that led to growth, and lasting experiences that have enriched my life beyond measure.

“During my career, I’ve encountered numerous injuries, which led me to search for new ways to overcome the pain constantly. These challenges have taken a toll on me mentally and physically; over time, I’ve realized that my passion for playing the game has shifted. Baseball demands an ‘all-in’ approach, something I’ve brought to every season. However, I can no longer give it the total commitment it requires. I’ve always believed that playing this game requires 110 percent effort, and anything less would not do justice to my teammates, coaches, fans, or the game itself.

 

[DuklaNation]

And clowns were mocking my Freddie Freeman take? LMAO.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Off season can't start soon enough let's actually close some deals this off season Shapiro ! Congrats to Freddie and Teoscar !!

 

[MK78]

Off season can't start soon enough let's actually close some deals this off season Shapiro ! Congrats to Freddie and Teoscar !!

Absolutely love it for Teoscar! He wasn't a passenger either he contributed.

 

[Brown Dog]

Absolutely love it for Teoscar! He wasn't a passenger either he contributed.

Yeah, but we have Erik Swanson!

 

[Bjindaho]

Off season can't start soon enough let's actually close some deals this off season Shapiro ! Congrats to Freddie and Teoscar !!

Technically, the offseason actually start Oct 31. That is when trades became legal and teams were allowed to negotiate with free agents for the first time (can't be signed until next week).

 

[Suntouchable13]

I still think Pete Alonso and Vladdy moving over to 3rd is the move. Or Christian Walker. Not sold on Bregman as an option.

 

[weems]

We need a huge offseason.

Pretty disappointing to see how bad our 2025 championship odds are.

 

[hockeywiz542]

As off-season opens, Blue Jays face end of current cycle and try to build another

The World Series made one thing apparent for the Toronto Blue Jays: They aren't anywhere close. This is a team facing the end of an era and a heavy decision to pick one path or another. The decisions over the next few months will carry that weight.

www.sportsnet.ca

During his end-of-season media availability on Oct. 2, Shapiro said he didn’t see the payroll “either growing or decreasing in a big way,” which suggests the Blue Jays could end up in the $230-$240 million range again.

In other words, they have money to work with.

That should give them the space to add an impact bat, a lesser but productive hitter and a mid-range leverage reliever. Closer Jordan Romano is projected to make $7.75 million in arbitration but if his status after elbow surgery is too uncertain, he could be non-tendered to create additional spending room.

The return from last summer’s deadline sell-off, while not altering the franchise’s trajectory, gives the Blue Jays more assets to work with on the trade market, although both system and 40-man roster depth remain glaring organizational issues.

All of which brings us back to Muncy’s point, about how every team talks about winning a World Series in the spring, but for how few of them it’s actually a legitimate and sustainable aspiration.

The Blue Jays, no matter how you cut it, simply aren’t anywhere close, the road they’re on is about to end and the time for them to choose a direction is nigh.

 

[Suntouchable13]

We need a huge offseason.

Pretty disappointing to see how bad our 2025 championship odds are.

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Offence has to be a huge priority. If they average 4.6, 4.7, 4.8 runs per game next year they will win lots of games with their starting pitching.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I know I'm a broken record about it. But Shapiro and Atkins talking about payroll and nibbling in free agency to round of the roster means absolutely squat if they head into the season with Vladdy unsigned. That's the only news I care for right now.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I know I'm a broken record about it. But Shapiro and Atkins talking about payroll and nibbling in free agency to round of the roster means absolutely squat if they head into the season with Vladdy unsigned. That's the only news I care for right now.

Yes, you're exactly right. Vladdy needs to be signed first and foremost. But also, there is no "rounding out the roster" they have to go get impact bats. Otherwise, they are just wasting everyone's time.

 

[tmlfan98]

LOL who's ready to be a bridesmaid and not the bride again?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852432449503965248

 

[Suntouchable13]

LOL who's ready to be a bridesmaid and not the bride again?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852432449503965248

I don't even know if it makes much sense. They need more than one guy. I am not under an illusion that Soto solves all our issues.

 

[saska sault]

Let's hope they have a Soto plan and a heavily researched and thoughtout plan for the likely scenario we dont get him. Pick a number, stick with it but actually have a plan in place for free agency. Last year it went from Ohtani... to IKF, Turner and KK... they got caught with their pants down as usual. If this team has a similar off-season, Vlad isn't signed and Bo goes into the season without being traded and no extension... it will be another year I go nowhere near the SkyDome.

 

[trellaine201]

I heard he should be heading somewhere to meet with the Jays brass in a few days. Even have his flight number

 

[Zero1]

Let's hope they have a Soto plan and a heavily researched and thoughtout plan for the likely scenario we dont get him. Pick a number, stick with it but actually have a plan in place for free agency. Last year it went from Ohtani... to IKF, Turner and KK... they got caught with their pants down as usual. If this team has a similar off-season, Vlad isn't signed and Bo goes into the season without being traded and no extension... it will be another year I go nowhere near the SkyDome.

Exactly this.

We already know Boras is going drag this out. There needs to be a real plan in place in the likely scenario that Soto signs elsewhere.