Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season - Complete without a great title in keeping with the performance

[Amadeus]

Mark Shapiro is delusional if he thinks we've had lots of success in the last 5 years. Look at your total spend, look at your underwhelming farm system, and look at your playoff success.

It's unacceptable to put the word success around this team.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Mark Shapiro is delusional if he thinks we've had lots of success in the last 5 years. Look at your total spend, look at your underwhelming farm system, and look at your playoff success.

It's unacceptable to put the word success around this team.

It's nauseating hearing this guy talk about the success the last 5 years. He has one of the highest payrolls in baseball, a decimated farm system, and yet any success they've had has lead to NO wins in the postseason. I knew he would say this but to hear him defend Atkins is stomach churning.

 

[Bjindaho]

Who is Shapiro’s boss anyway? Will that person look at the standings and ask “WTF Mark?” Who is keeping him accountable?

Technically, he only reports to Edward Rogers

 

[Amadeus]

Rosie Dimaio likely just lost her job. What a terrible question!

 

[Suntouchable13]

"If I felt there was a better alternative to run our baseball operation, I’d make that change" Yikes, Atkins is on notice now.

 

[Dr Pepper]

"If I felt there was a better alternative to run our baseball operation, I’d make that change" Yikes, Atkins is on notice now.

lol no he isn't.

But Shapiro can't outright say he and Atkins are best buddies and inseparable, which appears to be the case.

 

[ryno23]

The Jays think they are the Leafs where you can put a bad product on the field and people will still show up. Leafs can get away with that as they are the Leafs and hockey is a religion in Canada.

The only way they get rid of Shatkins is by people not going to games and seeing the empty stadium might spur the owners into action. The problem with that is the Blue Jays are Canada's team so people all over Canada make it a vacation to see the Jays. This is not a say like the Rockies who suck and people from Florida, and Tennesee are not flocking to the Rockies games cause they are the only MLB team in the country.

Rogers is not serious about winning only hawking their products on TV and in the stadium. The Jays are a marketing arm of Rogers. I don't care how high the payroll is the owner doesn't care cause people are flocking to use cup holders in the new fancy seats lol. I won't be surprised if they cut payroll this offseason.

Mark Shapiro is delusional if he thinks we've had lots of success in the last 5 years. Look at your total spend, look at your underwhelming farm system, and look at your playoff success.

It's unacceptable to put the word success around this team.

Guardians....no I mean Indians got better after the dynamic duo left Cleveland. Now they are perennial division winners and playoff contenders each year

 

[Senator Stanley]

More of the same management-speak bullshit from Mark and Ross.

 

[Discoverer]

Rosie Dimaio likely just lost her job. What a terrible question!

I don't know what she asked, but if she could lose her job for asking terrible questions, she would have been unemployed YEARS ago.

That was a Paul Godfrey policy.

Now, it is not a rule, it is a policy that most players aren't worth more than 5 years (Vlad and Bo should be exceptions).

Did Godfrey start it? Because it was absolutely a Paul Beeston policy when AA was GM.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

More of the same management-speak bullshit from Mark and Ross.

How can you believe anything these clowns say. Langley in this mornings Toronto Sun writes that on Jan. 3 Atkins said 2023 was just a “just a blip in terms of run scoring…I think we have plenty of power to drive in runs”. This was after his failed pursuit of Ohtani and his only pivot was Vogelbach and IKF. So what happened in 2024? The 671 runs they scored were the lowest since 1997. Before that the worst was 651 in 1982. In other words, offensively they were historically pathetic.

The man can’t judge talent and we’re running him back expecting he’ll have learned? Better chance of hell freezing over. Now he’s speaking of a more balanced approach and the coaching staff have to do better job. The man is an incompetent boob.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Find someone that loves you as much as Mark Shapiro does Ross Atkins.

9 years with 0 playoff wins and somehow dude keeps his job. ESPECIALLY after bungling what appeared to be a legitimate contending roster after 2021.

f***ing geek better at least get Vladdy signed.

 

[Bjindaho]

I don't know what she asked, but if she could lose her job for asking terrible questions, she would have been unemployed YEARS ago.


Did Godfrey start it? Because it was absolutely a Paul Beeston policy when AA was GM.

I apologize. I had the wrong guy. It was a Besston rule. He would not approve anything over 5 under any conditions.

 

[Suntouchable13]

How can you believe anything these clowns say. Langley in this mornings Toronto Sun writes that on Jan. 3 Atkins said 2023 was just a “just a blip in terms of run scoring…I think we have plenty of power to drive in runs”. This was after his failed pursuit of Ohtani and his only pivot was Vogelbach and IKF. So what happened in 2024? The 671 runs they scored were the lowest since 1997. Before that the worst was 651 in 1982. In other words, offensively they were historically pathetic.

The man can’t judge talent and we’re running him back expecting he’ll have learned? Better chance of hell freezing over. Now he’s speaking of a more balanced approach and the coaching staff have to do better job. The man is an incompetent boob.

Might be that the way they do projections is broken? Their projections told them Kirk, Varsho, Springer, will all bounce back. Nobody anticipated Bo to tank so badly either. Anyway, Atkins is terrible. And their whole “advanced stats” dept needs a shakeup.

Find someone that loves you as much as Mark Shapiro does Ross Atkins.

9 years with 0 playoff wins and somehow dude keeps his job. ESPECIALLY after bungling what appeared to be a legitimate contending roster after 2021.

f***ing geek better at least get Vladdy signed.

Fire all the Ivy league geeks they have working the spreadsheets also.

 

[stickty111]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841499788459540630

They can't be serious with some of these quotes.

 

[Bjindaho]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841499788459540630

They can't be serious with some of these quotes.

I actually agree with the statement. Schneider did not directly cost the team any games this year.

I might even consider what he did to be a good job.

That being said, good job still shouldn't save his job, because he did well with kids in games that didn't matter (as opposed to earlier in the year when the team was supposed to be competing)

 

[DuklaNation]

If they can't understand why their advanced stats are misleading them about team performance, then improving team will be an uphill battle

 

[robertmac43]

For those who missed it:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841506234974810255

 

[tmlfan98]

I actually agree with the statement. Schneider did not directly cost the team any games this year.

I might even consider what he did to be a good job.

That being said, good job still shouldn't save his job, because he did well with kids in games that didn't matter (as opposed to earlier in the year when the team was supposed to be competing)

Yeah, I mean generally when a team heavily underperforms their pythag record (like the Jays did in 2021) a lot of blame usually goes to the manager.

But I would not call overperforming their pythag record by only 1 win this season a good managerial job. I guess you could say slightly above average if you want.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Rosie's always been a grade A b!tch. She should have been fired 30 years ago.

That question/comment is hilarious though. Sounds like she was half in the bag.