Blue Jays Discussion: 2024 Season (better title pending)

[MK78]

Yeah I just heard about the KK announcement... A bit surprised, but I guess he doesnt want to mess around with PTO's or minor league tryouts, given that he had trouble landing a team this year.

Anyway It was still a pleasure watching him play the outfield for the Jays 2 for 2 years. The hitting part has been painful this year, but last year he was pretty decent.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Yankees are pure booty cheeks other than Soto and Judge. After their hot start, they are absolute garbage. It chafes my ass they are so far ahead of us. #1 bullshit.

 

[dredeye]

According to Blake Murphy, Jays will need to shed about $30 mil in payroll (prorated) at the deadline to stay out of the more punitive area (50%) of repeater luxury tax next year and instead stay at the 20% threshold they are this year.

So probably won't be taking on much salary in deadline deals.

They need to move 10 million in real salary I believe. My understanding is it resets completely though if we get under.

 

[dredeye]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816236934899064891

Why did he need to announce this right before the deadline lol. Not that I think it changes anything but still

Yankees are pure booty cheeks other than Soto and Judge. After their hot start, they are absolute garbage. It chafes my ass they are so far ahead of us. #1 bullshit.

I cousins believe the season they were having. I said last off season that I didn’t get the hype with them even with their superstars but I looked like a clown at the start of the year for that take lol. They are more what I figured of late

 

[Discoverer]

As of now, Varsho should be the Gold Glove winner in LF, and there's really no contest. He leads in every advanced stat despite only playing there half the time. No one else even has a case.

In CF, he should probably be a finalist, but it's less certain. He's also been the best, but maybe not enough to make up for the lack of time there. He's first in DRS (insane that anyone can lead at two positions), 3rd in UZR, and 7th in FRV. Definitely a contender, but no guarantee.

Considering Kiermaier might be moved, there's still a chance he could win (or at least DESERVE to win) both.

 

[red devil]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816210408556093667

 

[jetsforever]

Thought Kiermaier was retiring effective immediately for a second and was going to say that's like the worst luck ever

 

[Dr.Funk]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816280485997469808

 

[dredeye]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816210408556093667

He’s now one of my favourites

 

[Suntouchable13]

He’s now one of my favourites

You know, it is funny but weird to “attack” someone randomly over that. Quantrill needs to simmer down, imo. I am sure he is such an angel

 

[Discoverer]

You know, it is funny but weird to “attack” someone randomly over that. Quantrill needs to simmer down, imo. I am sure he is such an angel

Yes, let he who hasn't jacked off in a public parking lot cast the first stone.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Yes, let he who hasn't jacked off in a public parking lot cast the first stone.

It is funny, but I don’t know why he would mention that. That’s all. I guess there must be a prior beef between the 2 of them?

 

[tmlfan98]

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I will say that, from the various conversations that I've had recently, Ross was very much in charge of the draft. Ross is very much in charge of the deadline. Nothing has changed about his involvements in these very high leverage decisions that the club is making at this time of year.

And I also haven't gotten the impression that he's going to be let go at the end of the season. And if anything, if I was betting, and this is my opinion now, this is just me saying if I had to wager, I would bet that Ross Atkins is going to be the Blue Jays GM in 2025.

Arden Zwelling said this on the latest At The Letters pod.

Fans need to stop showing up, otherwise ownership will not care without a big attendance drop.

 

[Scintillating10]

Jays better off packaging Garcia with Kikuchi to get better prospect who can help them in '25. Rather then acquiring 3 or 4 lesser prospects but will not amount to anything. The Thomas Hatch or Anthony Kay types.

Kikuchi and Garcia combined are equal to best arm available.

 

[NailsHoglander]

So the negative naysayers of yesteryear were right all along? Imagine that.

A learning lesson for the youngsters to never trust toxic positivity.

 

[tmlfan98]

Bassitt basically admitted some guys are packing it in already.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816602565712183606

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

So the negative naysayers of yesteryear were right all along? Imagine that.

A learning lesson for the youngsters to never trust toxic positivity.

I worry about those toxic positivity types. They're either internalizing all that to the point they're gonna snap at some point or they're letting it out in some actual real-world context.

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[MS]

So the negative naysayers of yesteryear were right all along? Imagine that.

A learning lesson for the youngsters to never trust toxic positivity.

This season is a totally different season from last season.

The team had been in the playoffs for 3 years straight.

Things only unraveled after the playoff disaster last year undermined the confidence and credibility of the organization, nothing was done about it, and then it was backed up by a terrible offseason.

 

[canucksfan]

This season is a totally different season from last season.

The team had been in the playoffs for 3 years straight.

Things only unraveled after the playoff disaster last year undermined the confidence and credibility of the organization, nothing was done about it, and then it was backed up by a terrible offseason.

Yup. There wasn't a lot of positivity during the offseason.

 

[tmlfan98]

This season is a totally different season from last season.

The team had been in the playoffs for 3 years straight.

Things only unraveled after the playoff disaster last year undermined the confidence and credibility of the organization, nothing was done about it, and then it was backed up by a terrible offseason.

Jays did not make the playoffs in 2021, so 2.

 

[MS]

Yup. There wasn't a lot of positivity during the offseason.

I'm a big believer in overall organizational direction and 'feel' and how teams with leadership and direction overachieve and teams without it underachieve.

The 2023-24 Jays offseason reminded me so much of the disaster 2007 and 2020 Canuck offseasons where the players were left bewildered, lost belief, and the team cratered in the standings. And the opposite of what happened with the Canucks when the hapless Benning crew were replaced by Allvin and Tocchet.

That 2023 Berrios game was an absolute gut punch to that locker room, and to the fanbase. It outed the team as a not-serious club out-of-touch with their players, made their manager look like a powerless puppet, and was just generally a total embarrassment. Heads needed to roll for that, none did, and everything that's happened since has come from there.

 

[dredeye]

Pretty sure Richards will be a Jay still after the deadline. Can’t imagine too many teams are gonna be interested in him anymore

 

[hockeywiz542]

Bassitt basically admitted some guys are packing it in already.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1816602565712183606

 

[canucksfan]

I haven't checked hitters stats within the farm system in a long time. Fisher Cats and down the numbers are really bad. Bats that looked promising aren't producing at all. Arias looks good in Dunedin and Nimmala since his return looks decent although the k rate is way too high. Outside of that, it is slim pickings.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I haven't checked hitters stats within the farm system in a long time. Fisher Cats and down the numbers are really bad. Bats that looked promising aren't producing at all. Arias looks good in Dunedin and Nimmala since his return looks decent although the k rate is way too high. Outside of that, it is slim pickings.

Yeah it has been a pretty horrific year on the farm, which makes the year at the major league level hurt a tad more. Bonilla having a 35% K rate in the FCL with no power as a 4+ million signing isn't exactly great either. The farm is about as bare as I can remember it in atleast the last 10ish years at all levels.