Speculation: 2024 Offseason Talk

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joshik

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Honka didn't even really deliver offensive flashes. He put up offense at a Craig Ludwig pace. He had nothing. I don't think Lundkvist is very good, but he's at least good enough to be an NHL player on a bad team. Honka was never even that.
Idk if you want Nils on a bad team either. There are a lot of ahl players who are really solid defensively. Giving him more time wouldnt solve it either imo. He wasnt getting many chances but also havent showed anything to deserve it. There are a lot of players who can do great even in limited time (some even play better).
 

FirstRowUpperDeck

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May 20, 2014
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That's two top pair d-men at their peak, one second pair d-men, one second line winger, a bunch of 3rd/4th liners, a couple of 3rd pair d-men, and no goalies.

Yeah, that's a pile of trash. It looks like a list from a pre-Vegas expansion draft.

Nieuwendyk's tenure was absolutely terrible. You spend a few years in bankruptcy at the cap floor, and then you go to the draft every year and get nothing. That's bad.
I think it was MK88 who long ago pointed out that Niewy wasn't as bad as it seemed. A dozen players with hundreds of games is a decent measure. We are misled by the true mess up on his first pick, Glennie.

That said, games played in the NHL aren't the greatest measure. Sure, if we believe most coaches play according to merit most of the time, it measures NHL level talent. It doesn't measure NHL star talent. Niewy drafted below average (or near it) and the team suffered.

Nill has a few bad years and a few bad breaks (Nuke not busting out until he busted out of here) but most hockey folks call the drafts from 2015 (Hintz, Guri?) through last year one of the best draft runs ever, and with a minimum of lottery luck.

Throw in exciting trades in the first three years for Seguin, Spezza, Sharp, and Johns, and it has been pretty exciting. I simply believe we ought to enjoy the success rather than make ourselves miserable by hypothetical "what could have beens" in 20/20 hindsight.

I have my draft guide open and will be ready to see if he continues his good run of drafting (yes, last year is a question mark but time will tell.)
 

Jersey Fan 12

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Nov 20, 2006
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Goalie Matt Murray has yet to receive a qualifying offer. Is he still in the goaltending picture for the Stars. He and Demi Poirier had similar numbers for Texas.
 

starsfan86

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Sep 27, 2006
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I wouldn’t mind having Nils back, only if the coaches trust him. I think he was on pace close to 25-30 points.

Goalie Matt Murray has yet to receive a qualifying offer. Is he still in the goaltending picture for the Stars. He and Demi Poirier had similar numbers for Texas.
I heard we are dumping him and signing the other Matt Murray
 
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piqued

nos merentur hoc
Nov 22, 2006
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Goalie Matt Murray has yet to receive a qualifying offer. Is he still in the goaltending picture for the Stars. He and Demi Poirier had similar numbers for Texas.
How do you know that? QOs aren't made public for 2 more days.
 

roryjones

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Yeah if Tanev is getting that kind of term screw that. Hope Nill has a big plan cause rolling out this team it will be a step back for sure.
 
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