Speculation: 2024 Off-season Team Discussion

[Schemp]

Yeah I'm sure they all wanted to stay in SJ?? And how did SJ look after those trades?

Celibrini and Dickinson? A #1C and a 1st line D, pretty good draft!

 

[Jamieh]

Celibrini and Dickinson? A #1C and a 1st line D, pretty good draft!

And just a few years of being absolute garbage

 

[Utahlkintome]

I am generally a lurker on these threads. But if you think marner is that much better then keller you do not watch hockey. Keller has played with travis Boyd, barrett hayton and nick bugjstad of late. What do you expect of any winger in these situations?

 

[lanky]

We've got soooo much depth on the way at LD. I think Kolyachonok, Duda, Kipkie, Szuber and Skahan are all on an NHL trajectory. There's only going to be one spot available amongst that group - stuck behind Sergachev and Simashev.

I guess we'll have to be ok losing some for nothing but hopefully Bill finds a way to harvest value out of a number of them.

 

[hbk]

We've got soooo much depth on the way at LD. I think Kolyachonok, Duda, Kipkie, Szuber and Skahan are all on an NHL trajectory. There's only going to be one spot available amongst that group - stuck behind Sergachev and Simashev.

I guess we'll have to be ok losing some for nothing but hopefully Bill finds a way to harvest value out of a number of them.

we have become St. Louis. we will be competitive but not elite and need everything to line up for us to take a run at a Cup. This isn't as easy as having several top #1 overall picks but this is the hand the draft lottery dealt us.

 

[Grimes]

we have become St. Louis. we will be competitive but not elite and need everything to line up for us to take a run at a Cup. This isn't as easy as having several top #1 overall picks but this is the hand the draft lottery dealt us.

I'd need to look back but how many 1st round selections did STL have when they were building? I feel like since 2021 we probably have had more than they would have in those build up seasons + the left overs of Keller, Crouse, Schmaltz from the last build.

 

[Dog]

We've got soooo much depth on the way at LD. I think Kolyachonok, Duda, Kipkie, Szuber and Skahan are all on an NHL trajectory. There's only going to be one spot available amongst that group - stuck behind Sergachev and Simashev.

I guess we'll have to be ok losing some for nothing but hopefully Bill finds a way to harvest value out of a number of them.

Harvest their souls then put back into Sergachev lol

 

[Jakey53]

I am generally a lurker on these threads. But if you think marner is that much better then keller you do not watch hockey. Keller has played with travis Boyd, barrett hayton and nick bugjstad of late. What do you expect of any winger in these situations?

Today, Marner is the better player, but I don't think the difference is a large as Jamieh states.

 

[Jamieh]

Today, Marner is the better player, but I don't think the difference is a large as Jamieh states.

Most would think Marner is roughly a top 5 winger in NHL, most would think Keller is roughly a top 20 winger in NHL. If you don't think that's a big difference we can agree to disagree.

 

[Napoli]

Most would think Marner is roughly a top 5 winger in NHL, most would think Keller is roughly a top 20 winger in NHL. If you don't think that's a big difference we can agree to disagree.

Put Marner on the Coyotes roster for the past 3 years, I'd doubt people would still think he's a top 5 winger in the NHL.

I honestly don't even believe he is even with him being on the Leafs.

 

[FinnishCoyote]

There has been rumours about unhappy Keller with this situation, but Sergachev specifically mentions that Keller has said great things about Utah.

Keller is very competitive player and I think that he is more excited than he's been in years

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Just give Keller the C already. The guy is playing the role anyway. Has been for a while now it seems.

 

[TheLegend]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809364868212093063

 

[Llewzaher]

I'm in Toronto. I'm inundated with Leafs talk daily.

I think Treliving is making the same mess in Toronto as he did Calgary. Toronto did themselves a disservice by only talking to one candidate when their GM spot was open.

But getting this back to Utah, I think it's moot. Marner is too expensive cap wise and he's not a fit with what GMBA envisions.

I am glad w3 are sticking it out,… trading for Marner pretty much abandons the rebuild

I wanted Marner desperately over Strome when he was drafted, but the bed is made , the rebuild going as planned, I am so glad BA is sticking to his guns..

( wish we could kept Geekie though)

 

[Llewzaher]

There has been rumours about unhappy Keller with this situation, but Sergachev specifically mentions that Keller has said great things about Utah.

Keller is very competitive player and I think that he is more excited than he's been in years

Good we can put those to bed now .. you can actually tell in Kellers interviews how happy he is to be here( well in Utah)

 

[Grimes]

Most would think Marner is roughly a top 5 winger in NHL, most would think Keller is roughly a top 20 winger in NHL. If you don't think that's a big difference we can agree to disagree.

I'd probably prefer all of the following for their overall play

Kucherov
Pastranak
Panarin
Matthew Tkachuk
Nylander
Connor
Rantanen
JRobo
Kaprizov

Brady and Svech are right there too.

 

[Jamieh]

I'd probably prefer all of the following for their overall play

Kucherov
Pastranak
Panarin
Matthew Tkachuk
Nylander
Connor
Rantanen
JRobo
Kaprizov

Brady and Svech are right there too.

Marner wasn't great this past season but his overall play is what separates him from most of them. He kills penalties, plays the power play, and outscored his teammates 5v5 most years.

 

[Jakey53]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809364868212093063

There is no salary arbitration if he signs his QO, correct? I think he signs his QO. It's all he's worth until he proves otherwise.

 

[Dog]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1809364868212093063

They should trade him in a package deal to get upgrade at Center.

 

[Jakey53]

They should trade him in a package deal to get upgrade at Center.

What do you suggest?

 

[Mosby]

He doesn’t have a case for arbitration. I suspect will we take advantage to buy low on term.

 

[rt]

Morgan’s wording was confusing. He didn’t mean trade when he said “deal”. He meant that re-signing the player should be easier now.

 

[Jakey53]

Morgan’s wording was confusing. He didn’t mean trade when he said “deal”. He meant that re-signing the player should be easier now.

Should be? The Coyotes qualified Hayton, and Hayton did not file for arbitration. Are you saying BA will give or should give Hayton more than his QO?

 

[rt]

Should be? The Coyotes qualified Hayton, and Hayton did not file for arbitration. Are you saying BA will give or should give Hayton more than his QO?

Depends on if he wants to buy UFA years doesn’t it?

 

[Jakey53]

Depends on if he wants to buy UFA years doesn’t it?

That would be the last thing on my mind. I would be more worried if Hayton can contribute more than he has.