2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!

[Jargon]

if we win Macklin we should just sign his dad too, maybe that’ll help

 

[Cas]

if we win Macklin we should just sign his dad too, maybe that’ll help

Can't be worse than Kunin.

 

[cydjericho]

A player isn't going to sully his reputation like Lindros did, and lose out on millions, over a beef their parent has with not even Grier or the Bay Area, but a Jr. team

I'm in no way saying this is a lock that they will hold out. But like I said Rick is VERY vocal about his disdain for the Sharks organization as a whole, not just the Jr. Sharks.

It's still quite possible if/once the Sharks win the draft lottery, that the Sharks will do their homework and make sure they don't draft a kid that will refuse to sign with them.

My bigger point is this might not be as cut and dry and most 1OA signings in the NHL, because there is a "ton" of baggage with this club already.

It's honestly sad, as this is one of the only players that have come up through the Sharks Jr. development program and has a chance to play for the same team, and the family has beef with the organization.

 

[coooldude]

I'm in no way saying this is a lock that they will hold out. But like I said Rick is VERY vocal about his disdain for the Sharks organization as a whole, not just the Jr. Sharks.

It's still quite possible if/once the Sharks win the draft lottery, that the Sharks will do their homework and make sure they don't draft a kid that will refuse to sign with them.

My bigger point is this might not be as cut and dry and most 1OA signings in the NHL, because there is a "ton" of baggage with this club already.

It's honestly sad, as this is one of the only players that have come up through the Sharks Jr. development program and has a chance to play for the same team, and the family has beef with the organization.

It would be very Sharks for us to win the 1OA for the first time ever, and have us either not draft a player, or draft and trade him, because he refused to play for us, not unlike the 1991 draft where they weren't going to give us Lindros and he still held out from the Nordiques. Which ultimately set them up for their cup win in 1995 post-move.

Jeez man. What a world. I hope this is a side plot and doesn't become the main timeline.

 

[tiburon12]

I'm in no way saying this is a lock that they will hold out. But like I said Rick is VERY vocal about his disdain for the Sharks organization as a whole, not just the Jr. Sharks.

It's still quite possible if/once the Sharks win the draft lottery, that the Sharks will do their homework and make sure they don't draft a kid that will refuse to sign with them.

My bigger point is this might not be as cut and dry and most 1OA signings in the NHL, because there is a "ton" of baggage with this club already.

It's honestly sad, as this is one of the only players that have come up through the Sharks Jr. development program and has a chance to play for the same team, and the family has beef with the organization.

Ever catch what specifically his disdain for the NHL Sharks stems from?

And why is he very vocal about it still, all these years later?

 

[cheechoo]

In a Team Canada video leading up to the WJCs they asked the players which jerseys they owned first growing up and Mack did say a Toews one

(10:36)



None of us deserve transports of delight in this (hockey) world.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Sharks all but have #32 locked up. Pittsburgh at #9.

Although I'll believe it when I see it, it would take the Hawks losing 0-11 and the Sharks go 3-9. That's because Hawks hold tiebreaker so Sharks need all 3 wins to rank higher. I can totally see both scenarios to be very likely. Sharks always try to screw themselves and drop the cake when it's handed to them instead of eating it.

What's maddening is you see fans super happy when they win these crucial points near season's end not realizing their Ferrari got switched with a Corolla.

 

[Hodge]

It's fair to wonder if the Sharks would even still be in San Jose if Jumbo hadn't fallen into our lap. Every aspect of this organization has been run embarrassingly poorly for basically its entire existence.

 

[LilLeeroy]

Interesting rules here at HF. Someone can post some random rumor about Celebrini's dad and FUD that our potential 1OA pick and super star won't actually sign here and thats cool.

But when I post "rumors" my stuff gets deleted.

Cool standards.

It is fun to imagine his dad, who is probably one of the busiest people on the planet, using what little free time he has away from the Warriors to go to his son's game and "constantly" shit talk the Sharks with that guy within earshot though.

Would definitely earn him the status of a certified hater.

 

[one2gamble]

It is fun to imagine his dad, who is probably one of the busiest people on the planet, using what little free time he has away from the Warriors to go to his son's game and "constantly" shit talk the Sharks with that guy within earshot though.

Would definitely earn him the status of a certified hater.

Ive never seen anyone "high up" in any organization of any size, especially one with limited employment options, bad mouth another publicly to where it could be traced back to them.

Privately, that's a different story.

 

[Kcoyote3]

I want everyone to know I constantly read this thread as Slacklin' for Macklin.

 

[Mafoofoo]

Why is everyone worried about Rick Celebrini?

Assuming the sharks win the lottery, Tim Burke is gonna show up to the Warriors facility, challenge Rick to a one on one and then poster him in front of the entire org before telling him how hes gonna give Macklin generational wealth and the key to the franchise to really rub salt in the wound.

Beef squashed.

 

[SJFanQC]

I know that even if I had beef with an org, enough so that it'd be heard by enough people that it'd start getting out, I'd still be reasonable about it when talking man-to-man. I also would be pretty happy with my kid playing next door to my main employer.

 

[dmcccdmn]

This is embarrassing. Is the biggest issue that keep Sharks fan up at night is Celebrini Sr? It's not guaranteed that we'll get last place and even if we do our chances is 25%.

I'll be happy if we get last place to get a good pick. I'll be in heaven if we get 1st overall. Macklin would get picked 1st by whoever that gets that pick. Any family drama isn't enough to sway a franchise altering pick.

 

[Mattb124]

I hate to be the one to possibly burst everyone's bubble about the potential of drafting first overall and selecting Celerbrini. There is a very good possibility he doesn't sign with the Sharks, and possibly holds out.

My son plays on the same youth team as Macklin's younger brother, and if anyone has ever been around Rick Celebrini, Macklin's dad, you would hear how much he despises the Sharks organization.

Anyone within ear shot of him can confirm, but Rick feels like the Jr. Sharks ruined Macklin's development when he played for them in his 14u year. As soon as they could, they moved him onto another youth team. And which is also why Macklin's younger brother does not even play for the Jr. Sharks currently.

There is quite a bit of frustration among the Jr. Sharks that they can not develop higher end youth talent like the So. Cal teams can, so once there is a promising player in the system, they most of the time leave to another club.

This is where Rick's frustrations come from. It's honestly a shame as Rick does a TON for the youth hockey community in the area. But you never hear the Sharks promote anything he does, only the Warriors, because he works for them.

As random as this is, the person to thank for this might be Curtis Brown. Who used to run the Jr. Sharks for many many years, Unfortunately, the Jr. Sharks in his time running it never mad any head ground on development like the So. Cal rivals.

So like I said, I'd chamber any excitement of the Sharks winning the draft lottery, and expecting Celebrini to sign.

I actually find it quite comical at this point, that the Sharks emptied their cupboard to tank, so they could potentially land a generational talent, but can't because of Curtis Brown.

A buddy from Livermore has a kid that is a pretty talented hockey player, and they drive him to SoCal every weekend rather than have him play with the Jr Sharks.

 

[cydjericho]

Interesting rules here at HF. Someone can post some random rumor about Celebrini's dad and FUD that our potential 1OA pick and super star won't actually sign here and thats cool.

But when I post "rumors" my stuff gets deleted.

Cool standards.

Look, I understand why you are so skeptical, I would be too. But it's what I'm hearing first hand. There is nothing I'd love more than to become a "credentialed" Staff writer for the Sharks, and just re-post stupid hot takes from Pierre McGuire, and be considered an insider, but I already have a full time job, and coach youth hockey so.

 

[sharski]

GMMG:

 

[one2gamble]

A buddy from Livermore has a kid that is a pretty talented hockey player, and they drive him to SoCal every weekend rather than have him play with the Jr Sharks.

I dont really see how this is effective since most development happens outside of the games. Like does he just practice by himself or is so~cal youth hockey on a different schedule than every other youth sport in the state.

Id rather move east than do that drive....

 

[gaucholoco3]

Lots of parents act incredibly irrationally and complain constantly about their child’s youth sports across all sports and all levels. That is what parents do.

Do those parents micromanage every decision their adult children make as a result of those frustrations that could result in losing tens of millions of dollars? No

Most parents get over it and let their adult children be adults.

 

[timorous me]

Look, I understand why you are so skeptical, I would be too. But it's what I'm hearing first hand. There is nothing I'd love more than to become a "credentialed" Staff writer for the Sharks, and just re-post stupid hot takes from Pierre McGuire, and be considered an insider, but I already have a full time job, and coach youth hockey so.

Wow, nice way to make yourself sound like a clueless dick.

 

[cydjericho]

I dont really see how this is effective since most development happens outside of the games. Like does he just practice by himself or is so~cal youth hockey on a different schedule than every other youth sport in the state.

Id rather move east than do that drive....

You are right about most development happening outside of the actual game itself, but what these families are in it for is A) the higher level of competition that the So. Cal market can produce, and B) the practices and ice time they get outside of games.

If you join a club, you don't just play games, you get on ice practice with the club, off ice practice with the club etc.

The big advantage of the So. Cal teams, is that their NHL counterparts have invested heavily into youth hockey. The amount of rinks that both the Kings and the Ducks have in So. Cal compared to the Sharks is staggering. San Jose has 3 facilities, and only one of them produces the higher end teams that compete with the So. Cal teams.

They also have a MUCH larger population of kids to pull from, so the talent level is automatically going to be better. Not to mention former NHL players who retire and move to So. Cal. There isn't a ton of ex NHL'ers who decide to retire to the Bay Area.

Also, it makes much more sense to hop on a Southwest flight to Orange County a few times a month than travel across the country to Boston for your Childs youth hockey, so this is why a lot of parents do this.

 

[cydjericho]

Lots of parents act incredibly irrationally and complain constantly about their child’s youth sports across all sports and all levels. That is what parents do.

Do those parents micromanage every decision their adult children make as a result of those frustrations that could result in losing tens of millions of dollars? No

Most parents get over it and let their adult children be adults.

Yes you are very correct that parents are very irrational, especially with the cost of travel tiered hockey.

I'm not saying Rick has the final say in what his son does, but you have to believe he's planted some seeds in Macklin's head about how the Sharks organization is ran.

 

[coooldude]

They also have a MUCH larger population of kids to pull from

This is very true, can't do much about that. Also they have two franchises

Not to mention former NHL players who retire and move to So. Cal. There isn't a ton of ex NHL'ers who decide to retire to the Bay Area.

What? A lot of former Sharks retire to the Bay Area. Are you saying that a lot of former NHLers who didn't play for the Ducks or Kings retire to LA? I would be surprised, unless their spouses/families are from there. Lots of NHLers retire to Canada or the East Coast cities their families are in.

Look, maybe you're right and Macklin has a bias against the Sharks. Do we think Adam Fantilli, in a vaguely ducks-colored suit, was stoked to fall to the Columbus Blue Jackets, whose actual big league NHL club is a cluster*** and has been for decades? But he signed and reported. I just would be amazed if one year of a bad junior experience is enough to cause this kind of reaction.

 

[Cas]

I'd guess that any top prospect is far more concerned with the $2,850,000 contract put in front of them than the logo on the jersey.

 

[Alaskanice]

I’m happy for the fact that San Jose even has three facilities for this. I mean this is the Silicon Valley. I see it growing.