HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Skip Bayless]

Shane Hutson? Lol.

Anaheim already has Zellwegger, how many small D they gonna run?

That's not my problem. They'll figure it out.

 

[McGees]

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Id bet Hughes objective for this draft is to end up with two of Lindstrom, Demigod, Iginla, Sennecke, Catton, Eiserman or MBN. We need that extra top 15 pick.

think hed prefer to trade for an nhl player than moving up.

 

[le_sean]

Are you for real?

Kaiden Guhle Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Kaiden Guhle, a hockey player from Edmonton, ALTA born Jan 18 2002 who was active from 2017 to 2025.

www.hockeydb.com

Do you know what GP and PTS mean?

Yes I do. Why not take a gander at his 2021-22 season. You’ll be pleasantly surprised. Unless you skipped Grade 3 mathematics

 

[vokiel]

He’s not good enough to run an NHL PP. At least not a 1st unit and nowhere near Hutson level.

We wouldn't need any specialists with Dickinson and Reinbacher as the top pair. Then Guhle, Engstrom, Mailloux and Struble makes this a solid d core. Plus whoever comes from the KHL when they can.

 

[le_sean]

2021-22 season? His 25 points season? In his D+2? That's funny as f***.

Is that the season you were talking about here?

Holy f*** man. You’re really bad at this. Do I really need to explain it to you?

Are you reading in braille and skipping lines? Notice how he played for Edmonton AND Prince Albert that season. 42 games. 40 points. Plus another 16 in 19 playoffs games. So really 56 points in 61 games.

 

[le_sean]

No you don't.

You arbitrary took his PPG on his D+2 year over 17 games (!!!) then somehow claimed that he made 40 points in 42 games. So it's gotta be as good as Dickison's 70 pts in 68 games during his D year.

Absolutely ridiculous.

This has to be a troll. I honestly can’t believe someone can be this dense

 

[ReHabs]

This has to be a troll. I honestly can’t believe someone can be this dense

How many points did each get in their respective draft seasons?

40 in 64 vs 70 in 68

Sam Dickinson is a better prospect

 

[le_sean]

How many points did each get in their respective draft seasons?

40 in 64 vs 70 in 68

Sam Dickinson is a better prospect

And Slafkovsky got 10 points his draft year. That’s why Kotkaniemi >>>> him. Right?

 

[WeThreeKings]

You're probably right but they badly need some jam on their top 6. Slaf and occasionally Dach can't be the only ones stirring things up. If sennecke can translate his game to the NHL level, he'll probably be the best player of this draft but the way he plays is really hard to pull off in the NHL. Iginla game like Tkachuk is super translatable. Habs need to shoot for the highest floor with the 5th pick if demidov is off the board. They can't afford to flop on it

They can't afford to slap single it. Go out and overpay Debrusk if you're so worried about having a high floor guy. This is our last chance picking top 5. The ceiling has to come first here.

That’s what I was going to say; I swear I saw quotes of him saying that Demidov was Mtl bound like last week. So what changed? The nature of Lindstrom’s injury being revealed?

Lindstrom injury was already known and positive reports came out the combine. Back tracking off of what Pronman said is a way to expose you arent getting much info.

Pronman literally said that it was a herniated disc and that at the combine when they all got the reports and watched his upper body drills that they were all way more confident in him than before and he was getting top 4 hype.

That should be a positive story not a negative but people are fixating on what it was rather than what teams felt about it after seeing the medical reports and imagery.

If all those forwards are gone, you gotta go Buium. He’s a game breaker.

Parekh is a bigger game breaker and shoots right.

True but to his credit, he was bang on with Slaf and reinbacher

Those were basically locked in by those in the know earlier than us fans heard.

He also shifted his opinion 3 times on the 1st overall. He has some connections he doesn't have who is taking who where connections. Like he heard Sennecke was rising. That's legit. But he doesn't know who is taking who.

Dickinson's offensive potential is so much higher than Guhle IMO.

Its higher but neither runs a pp1 so it isn't that relevant.

 

[McGees]

If a lot of F are taken then some very good D — better than Buium, overall

I think Buium will be 1st or 2nd best D in the class

 

[Habs Icing]

I'm thinking he goes D with that second pick. Then he trades Shane Hutson to Anaheim for Travis Zegras.

Before we trade him, tell me how we acquired Shane Hutson.

 

[The Great Weal]

Considering many D drafted usually don’t see the nhl for 2-3 years I do t think that should be too big an issue

Well given that Werenski is going to be 27 years old soon, Jiricek just had his 20 year old season, Mateychuk is turning 20 soon, and Severson has 7 years left with a NTC, it's fair to assume that they will be there for a while unless they trade Mateychuk.

 

[HuGort]

Its higher but neither runs a pp1 so it isn't that relevant.

Dickinson quite a bit better hands than Guhle. He's bigger, 4 years younger and 2 less concussions

 

[le_sean]

Dickinson quite a bit better hands than Guhle. He's bigger, 4 years younger and 2 less concussions

Is the difference between Guhle and Dickinson so vast that it’s worth a 5th overall pick? Isn’t it more prudent to use a 5th overall pick on a player type we don’t have? Or one that we sorely lack? Because two-way physical defencemen isn’t really something the Habs need. Offence is a need. Forwards are a need.

 

[Jabba11]

Sam Dickinson is worth being picked at 5th overall.
Same goes for Ivan Demidov, Berkly Catton, Zeev Buium, and Anton Silayev. We are in real business.

Ones that aren't worth are Lindstrom and Iginla and Sennecke.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Well given that Werenski is going to be 27 years old soon, Jiricek just had his 20 year old season, Mateychuk is turning 20 soon, and Severson has 7 years left with a NTC, it's fair to assume that they will be there for a while unless they trade Mateychuk.

Werenski has had a few injuries and NTCs haven’t stopped trades before. Add to the fact that players slide down pairings over the years, I’d say if BPA for what they see is a D, you draft a D

 

[Milhouse40]

There's been a shift in the betting odds for the 5th overall pick.
Now Sennecke ahead of Demidov, he was behind Catton last week.

 

[The Great Weal]

Werenski has had a few injuries and NTCs haven’t stopped trades before. Add to the fact that players slide down pairings over the years, I’d say if BPA for what they see is a D, you draft a D

He's also the best player on the team at 26 still playing at an elite level. They overpaid for him with his contract at the time because they love him there. Sure he could want out at some point, but you don't draft a player based on this assumption. It would be like us drafting a center because Suzuki might not be a Hab in a couple of years, it's highly unlikely.

 

[ReHabs]

And Slafkovsky got 10 points his draft year. That’s why Kotkaniemi >>>> him. Right?

Your obsession with Kotkaniemi is well documented here and irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

 

[le_sean]

Your obsession with Kotkaniemi is well documented here and irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

You spent months parroting that Slafkovsky only had 10 points his draft year and was a bust. He was better than KK on draft day despite lower numbers in Liiga. That’s one point I was making.

The poster said Guhle never once had similar numbers to Dickinson at any point in his CHL career. I just proved that statement was false. Your contribution that Dickinson>Guhle on draft day was irrelevant, it had nothing to do with the topic in hand.

 

[ReHabs]

You spent months parroting that Slafkovsky only had 10 points his draft year and was a bust. He was better than KK on draft day despite lower numbers in Liiga. That’s one point I was making.

I never said Slafkovsky is a bust (especially not before the draft even happened). I said I don’t think he is safe enough to risk with the 1OA given his CV.

And no that’s not the point you thought you were making.

The poster said Guhle never once had similar numbers to Dickinson at any point in his CHL career. I just proved that statement was false. Your contribution that Dickinson>Guhle on draft day was irrelevant, it had nothing to do with the topic in hand.

In their respective draft seasons, given their many similarities (similarities Kotkaniemi and Slafkovsky did not share), their point production *is* germane to the discussion. Dickinson significantly outproduced Guhle. They’re not comparable as draft day prospects.

 

[le_sean]

In their respective draft seasons, given their many similarities (similarities Kotkaniemi and Slafkovsky did not share), their point production *is* germane to the discussion. Dickinson significantly outproduced Guhle. They’re not comparable as draft day prospects.

That wasn’t what was being talked about. You inserted yourself at the end of a discussion.

And that’s fresh, you saying you never said Slaf was a bust

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

They can't afford to slap single it. Go out and overpay Debrusk if you're so worried about having a high floor guy. This is our last chance picking top 5. The ceiling has to come first here.

What I meant is out of all the top 10-12 projected forwards, you take the one that both projected to be the piece the Habs need the most plus doesn't have any risk factor. For example, I don't see demidov as having risk, I don't see Iginla as having risk, besides his back injury, I don't see slindstrom as having risk. I do see that with Catton, I do see that with riserman, I do see that with sennecke. So I would probably prefer the former players to the latter

 

[ReHabs]

That wasn’t what was being talked about. You inserted yourself at the end of a discussion.

Take it to DMs if you’re afraid of basic hockey talk.

And that’s fresh, you saying you never said Slaf was a bust

I don’t like bickering. Why are you bickering? Just stick to hockey talk. It’s much more entertaining and enjoyable. Give it a try.

No smearing teenagers, no unnecessary sarcasm, no irrelevant nonsense. Keep it simple.

 

[le_sean]

Take it to DMs if you’re afraid of basic hockey talk.

I don’t like bickering. Why are you bickering? Just stick to hockey talk. It’s much more entertaining and enjoyable. Give it a try.

No smearing teenagers, no unnecessary sarcasm, no irrelevant nonsense. Keep it simple.