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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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Mrb1p said:
Been working on that dere top 75. I think that's where I'll stop. It's already very murky after 45, wouldn't see the use in adding more names, it would probably just be random.
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Took the words right out of my mouth.

Was a struggle to get to 57 (Habs second pick) but once you decide to push into that next tier after 50, you end up with too many names to leave out (and not enough time to really cover them all). I'm stopping after the Habs' 3rd round picks (78).
 
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hardcorehabs said:
I'd take Buium over Levshunov.

I'd also take Iggy over every F other than Demidov
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Yup, I'm even considering Iggy over Demidov. I personally prefer the bigger Russians and I'm not sold on Demidov being a Kucherov (smaller type Russian star). I want to see his weight at the combine!

I have confidence Iggy will be a very good top 6F and tops out around 6'-1" and 200+ lbs. Probably puts up 80 pts (+/-) in his prime but provides a lot more value beyond points.

I'm not afraid one bit to take Iggy over Demidov. I like them both and it's very close for me.
 
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le_sean said:
There’s more weird takes to come with one month left. You missed one about the fire in Tij’s eyes being a positive.
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I for one value the fire in his eyes. It's a small side context into how a player might be obsessive with improving. Shows attention to detail and focus. Those are positives for me.

But with HF boards, some will spin this into it being the sole reason vs one of many context.
 
Habs Halifax said:
I for one value the fire in his eyes. It's a small side context into how a player might be obsessive with improving. Shows attention to detail and focus. Those are positives for me.

But with HF boards, some will spin this into it being the sole reason vs one of many context.
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Yeah but it's not really something you can genuinely evaluate about a player.

Look at Evan Bouchard. Amazing playoff performer, looks like he's on whippits most of the time.
 
SannywithoutCompy said:
Yeah but it's not really something you can genuinely evaluate about a player.

Look at Evan Bouchard. Amazing playoff performer, looks like he's on whippits most of the time.
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Or Gallagher, one of the most fiery guys out there and absolute dogshit in the playoffs.

I mean it’s not something you can even evaluate in general let alone doing it from the seat of your computer chair from a YouTube video
 
WeThreeKings said:
No, it's just funny that some people saw Iginla's round 1 and he was the flavor of the week, then they saw Buium in the frozen four games against Fowler/Hutson and he was the flavor of the week, now Dickinson has some excellent Memorial Cup games and he's the guy we need.
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Similar thing happens with depth charts. Habs have lots of whatever - don't draft that position!! HF Habs insists on drafting for need. Then in a year or two things will evolve in unforeseen ways and the Habs will need that position. Bush league flavor of the week mentality. Just draft BPA.
 
Harry Kakalovich said:
Similar thing happens with depth charts. Habs have lots of whatever - don't draft that position!! HF Habs insists on drafting for need. Then in a year or two things will evolve in unforeseen ways and the Habs will need that position. Bush league flavor of the week mentality. Just draft BPA.
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Ah, yes, just draft BPA.

Who is BPA though?

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bleuetbio said:
Great work! Must add Connelly somewhere... Why Poirier that mucmuch
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Connelly would be somewhere in the top 30, doesn't matter to me. I've heard enough about his shit and I refused to scout him. He can be another teams problem, plus there's plenty of good kids to scout. I've scouted him incidentendally and he can make the NHL as a quality player but I just can't rank him.

Justin is an amazing player. Probably one of the most well spoken and intelligent there is, a true competitor and he's incredibly skilled. What's not to like? He's everything we wished Eiserman was, only he's 5'some.
WeThreeKings said:
Well, rightfully so, the best scout in the history of the world who posts on our boards said it was Shane Wright and his magical hands that had to go 1OA.
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Funny enough, I know this is a dig at myself and that I'm on your IL, but everyone else will see what a phoney you are, but you also had Wright at 1.


Bye bye:
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MSLs absurd thighs said:
I didn't see a whole lot of Basha, but what I saw I loved. I was paying attention to Lindstrom an somehow he always caught my eye.
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He's a true playdriver+Glue guy. He's like the best of both worlds if you combined Palat and a guy like Bratt.
 
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Top-10 ordered in projected Tiers per Pronman, who views this as an avg draft cuvée.

Skill grades are evaluated based on 5-criteria:
- Skating
- Puck skills
- Hockey sense
- Compete
- Shot

1-Elite- Celebrini

2-Bubble elite - Levshunov

3-NHL All-Star - Yakemchuk, Silayev, Buium

4-Bubble All Star - Catton, Sennecke, Demigod (#8 - below avg skater)

5-Top of the Lineup Player - Parekh, Lindstrom (#10 - below avg hockey sense), Dickinson (#11 - below avg hockey sense)
 
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le_sean said:
Yeah this isn’t like last year where you had Bedard as the top guy, then the 4 forwards clearly in Tier 2 and then about 5 players in Tier 3.

Tier 2 this time around genuinely has about 8-9 players.
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Those are public tiers in media. Organizations will have very different and much more focused opinions.
 
SannywithoutCompy said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Iggy and have him 6th, but I don't think you can genuinely evaluate whether or not someone has "fire in their eyes", and how much of an impact that would even have.
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YouTube scout:
I have him at a 3/5 fire in the eyes.
The good thing is that there are fire in the eye coaches and that’s something that the player can work on to at least get to a fire in the eyes league average so I’m not too worried.
 
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SannywithoutCompy said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Iggy and have him 6th, but I don't think you can genuinely evaluate whether or not someone has "fire in their eyes", and how much of an impact that would even have.
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Same reply as the last post. One layer of context among many. It's not something to completely ignore or over put lots of focus on. Are you telling me it means nothing? 0%? Sure. I don't think it's a 0% factor.

Focus is one of the things I evaluate. ONE of MANY things. You're not going to draft Iggy on his fire eyes alone bud. It's just a side context possibly showing how focused he is. Trying to dig into how competitive the player is and how obsessed the player is at improving is of value with me. Watching them read into the play is one area to evaluate and it's not just with the eyes/focus. It could be their tempo or other things.

Watch this carry on for a entire page now. :facepalm:.
 
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I certainly don't have major convictions on a lot of prospects in this draft.

Celebrini has got a high ceiling and a high floor, San Jose got lucky here.

My #2 is Demidov, but you are lying to yourself if you think it's a comfortable feeling to take a guy that talented without dynamic skating, a game we've never really seen much of at the NHL level, and being stuck playing at the MHL level again this year. The lack of viewings against professionals makes it hard to be definitive on his upside and the skating is very Hutson-esque.

My #3 is Catton, but I'm not convinced he's a center. I'm not so concerned about the size but he is sleight, so how he plays in the playoffs at the NHL level will be a question. He's got a lot of great skills and tools, but the motor and defense went in and out which can be explained by the late injury and the high minutes he played, but the high minutes also could inflate his production, as well.

My #4 is Lindstrom, but I'm not convinced he's a center. The health issues are a ? that we can't answer so it's just a variable we have to put outside the scope of our armchair evaluations. The skill level and shot are great, he's an exceptional athlete but the sample size of top 5 level play is very small and the skating stride is effective but odd.

My #5 is Sennecke, but the production took off when Ritchie got back off his injury. Now there's reasons why that would be the case as he had a massive growth spurt and getting your coordination and figuring out your game at that new size, as a teenager can be tough. Will his style of play work in the NHL? Can he adapt? Was it a prolonged hot streak or a legitimate high upward trajectory?

My #6 is Parekh, but he's not the biggest guy out there similar build to Catton and there are some skating things, his defense is suspect at best. His shot will play but is there enough of a playmaking game to support that?

My #7 is Dickinson, left hand shot, how much better will be compared to Guhle? He's got a lot of the same elements with the big differentiator being that he has a bigger and heavier shot.

My #8 is Levshunov, is he so advanced physically that he might have plateaud? Are the IQ issues a result of being relatively new to hockey or just not a smart defender?

My #9 is Iginla, but I worry he's just prime Gallagher. A great player to have but there's limitations and is that a 5 overall prospect? Great shot, inside drive, good puck protection but the puck handling goes in and out, he has trouble making passes that he needs to make to be a dual threat and can his style of play be maintained over 82 games with his good but not great size?

My #10 is Buium, very similar to Hutson. Great numbers but on a stacked team. Defense is still suspect and I don't know if his offense will translate to the NHL, Hutson did make that move look easy in 2 games but that's a small sample size. I'd not take him for the Habs as if Hutson makes it, we already have him, if he fails, Buium looks destined to fail too.
 
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I dont know who you can compare Iggy to Gallagher lol…

Iggy is already bigger, way better shot catalog, way better release, better puck protection, his edges are 10 times better than Gally.

Wtf?
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I certainly don't have major convictions on a lot of prospects in this draft.

Celebrini has got a high ceiling and a high floor, San Jose got lucky here.

My #2 is Demidov, but you are lying to yourself if you think it's a comfortable feeling to take a guy that talented without dynamic skating, a game we've never really seen much of at the NHL level, and being stuck playing at the MHL level again this year. The lack of viewings against professionals makes it hard to be definitive on his upside and the skating is very Hutson-esque.
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A few weeks ago I almost called him a "forward version of Hutson" when someone asked a description of Demidov. Good to see I'm not the only one who see it.
 
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