HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[WeThreeKings]

A top 6 forward is drafting for needs. Dickinson is a top 2D, potentially a #1D. That's higher value and better pick for us.

Or they think Guhle is every bit as good as he will be, that there's no guarantee Dickinson will hit to where Guhle is now and have a higher evaluation on forwards that they have an easy path to integrate into the line up.

If you have a staunch belief you already have your 1LD 2LD and 3LD, and you've identified a top line forward that you do need, you're going to take the forward.

They're not drafting a LD. They'll get paid to drop back if the board falls in a way where a LD is clearly at the top of everyone's board, which is extremely unlikely.

When Bob's list comes out and they say there's no consensus after 1, that's the belief of NHL scouts around the NHL. There's no sure fire Dickinson is a top pairing D, otherwise the majority of NHL scouts would rank him with a consensus in the top 5 of the draft. He's not. Buium isn't. Parekh isn't.

Only Silayev and Levshunov got that support. With Silayev you are 3 seasons before he even touches NA ice, so they'll get paid to not take him.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Fans : beware of late risers, e.g. KK PTSD

Also Fans : let s take Sennecke because he played 16 good games !


The late riser issue gets twisted into a playoff performer quality depending on fans want to see.

 

[Playmaker09]

I’d like for the habs to find a way to get Yegor Surin.

Kid’s a real gamer.

He's on my Jets pick shortlist as well. Reminds me a lot of Brandon Dubinsky.

 

[jaffy27]

With Chinakhov, Marchenko, Voronkov, Provorov on their team, they seem well positioned to add Demidov over Lindstrom. It just makes sense for the Jackets. Lots of size to insulate him and compatriots to make his transition easier.

Maybe Silayev over Demidov …..man, this is gonna be a long 6 weeks lol

 

[JustAHabFan]

Fans : beware of late risers, e.g. KK PTSD

Also Fans : let s take Sennecke because he played 16 good games !


The late riser issue gets twisted into a playoff performer quality depending on fans want to see.

Sennecke has been playing well since January.

 

[vokiel]

Maybe Silayev over Demidov …..man, this is gonna be a long 6 weeks lol

And wait 3 years instead of 1?

It started feeling long around the TDL

 

[SwiftyHab]

Habs hadn’t held their scouting meetings when he said no LD. What if Bobrov thinks Dickinson can carry the mail, grab bulls by the horn and impress hockey historians?

It’s a whole other ballgame behind the scenes and things can change.

Not sure how much more empassioned he can be after that. I can maybe see Bobrov pulling one of these for Iginla this draft.

 

[HuGo boss]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

 

[MarkovsKnee]

He's not in many mock drafts

I would take Miettinen with Winnipeg's pick if we still have it. He's ranked to go 33-50. Early 2nd.

He's a big guy who can skate & has skills. He played last year in Finland's U20, but decided to come to Canada to play for Everett this year.

It was his first year, and he got off to a slow start, but then picked it up in 2nd half. He finished with 67 pts in 66 gp, and was well above ppg in 2nd half.

I would not be surprised if he goes before #25.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

They probably just take Sennecke. They might even like Sennecke more than Iginla

 

[vokiel]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

I'd pick Catton or Helenius, depending on who the scouts prefer between the two.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

In this scenario, I take Levshunov and run to the bank laughing.

Defense may not be our biggest need, but a potential #1D is always worth more than a good 2nd line forward. If chips fall this way, we will only need to work around our logjam with trades.

I am getting quite intrigued with Silayev who I haven't had the chance to look at much yet, but who I see going top 3 in some mock drafts. If he has the potential of a #1D with his size and good skating, then would he be worthy of changing draft idea? I am asking myself that question ATM.

 

[Michelangelo]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

Getting Levshunov would definitely not be a nightmare scenario

 

[WeThreeKings]

Fans : beware of late risers, e.g. KK PTSD

Also Fans : let s take Sennecke because he played 16 good games !


The late riser issue gets twisted into a playoff performer quality depending on fans want to see.

Fans: I don't want a late riser like Sennecke!!
Also Fans: IGINLA NO MATTER WHAT!!

Bob McKenzies pre-season rankings: Sennecke HM, Igina NR.
Bob McKenzie's mid-season rankings: Sennecke 19, Iginla 16
Bob McKenzie's pre-lotto rankings: Sennecke 14, Iginla 10.

• Sennecke top 5 votes: 1; Iginla Top 5 votes: 0

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

You just take Levshunov and have the sickest top 4 in the league. Then work the board hard to trade whatever you need to move up and get whoever is falling between Eiserman, Helenius, Catton, Sennecke or Iginla.

 

[SwiftyHab]

They probably just take Sennecke. They might even like Sennecke more than Iginla

Do YOU like Senneke more than Iginla?

 

[WinterLion]

A few months ago we were all dreaming that Lindstrom would be available...

 

[MarkovsKnee]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

It's one I've thought about, too. I believe this to be the scenario where Montreal trades down if all 4 forwards that they likely want go 1-4.

I think the next 3 teams would all take D in this scenario, too: Utah, Ottawa & Seattle. Calgary could go either way. Would Calgary or Buffalo (who desperately needs RHD) want to move up to get a quality D?

Basically, it would go something like this:

1. Celebrini
2. Demidov
3. Lindstrom
4. Iginla
5. Levshunov, Silyav, Buium or Dickinson (Calgary)
6. Dickinson, etc (Utah)
7. Yakemchuk, Levshunov, or Parekh (Ottawa)
8. Buium, etc (Seattle)
9. Sennecke (Montreal)

Or

5. Buffalo: Levshunov or Yakemchuk
6. Utah: Dickinson, etc
7. Ottawa: Yakemchuk, Levshunov or Parekh
8. Seattle: Buium, etc
9. Calgary: Helenius
10. New Jersey: MBN
11. Montreal: Sennecke


For Calgary, I would accept their 2nd round pick this year (they also have Dallas's 2nd round draft pick, but I would want the higher pick) & Vancouver's 3rd in 2026.

For Buffalo, a 2nd in 2025 & 2026.

I would then package Winnipeg's pick, Calgary or Buffalo's 2nd, two 3rds (one in 2025 & 2026) to San Jose. SJS is still looking for picks. They only have TB's 3rd this year& no 3rds next year. Winnipeg's 1st and Calgary's/Buffalo 2nd would give them 4 picks in 25-45 range.

They have #14.

There are 6D, and at this point only 4 teams have picked D.

12. Philadelphia would take D, since they're terrible at that position. There should be 2 left.
13. Minnesota: Last D, Catton or Eiserman
14. Montreal (from San Jose): Catton or Eiserman

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

Would you guys go next available forward? Catton , helenius, eiserman, sennenke etc or go top rated dman? I would personally go with zee buium think he's going go be a stud ,position wise sucks but we can always trade Matheson next year or apparently he plays both sides well or trade down to the 8-9 because in this scenario I'm sure their will be a run on dman and we can still get those forwards at 8-9

I don’t really think a nightmare scenario exists, other than taking the wrong player. Outside of Celebrini, and I’d include Demidov if you aren’t counting the Russian factor, the next tier of forwards is like a half dozen players. I understand the consensus is Lindstrom is at the top of that tier, but he’s hardly a slam dunk himself while the difference between Iginla and Sennecke is Apples to Oranges, don’t see a difference in their respective values at all. And this is all assuming we are 100% taking a forward, for all we know they could view the Russian blueliner as a perennial Norris winner, while others have the top D as one of another half dozen names.

To me, the most nightmare scenario is for Demidov, a potential superstar, to fall to us and to pass on him to take a solid player like an Iginla much like we did last year.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I don't see any scenario where none of Levchunov, Silayev or Dickinson goes in the top 5. If anything, I see it as more likely that the dmen all go in that order, from 2 to 4, and we get to choose between any of the forwards not named Celebrini. Unless HuGo have been playing 4D chess with everybody all along and they throw a curve ball .

 

[Doublechin]

I don’t really think a nightmare scenario exists, other than taking the wrong player. Outside of Celebrini, and I’d include Demidov if you aren’t counting the Russian factor, the next tier of forwards is like a half dozen players. I understand the consensus is Lindstrom is at the top of that tier, but he’s hardly a slam dunk himself while the difference between Iginla and Sennecke is Apples to Oranges, don’t see a difference in their respective values at all. And this is all assuming we are 100% taking a forward, for all we know they could view the Russian blueliner as a perennial Norris winner, while others have the top D as one of another half dozen names.

To me, the most nightmare scenario is for Demidov, a potential superstar, to fall to us and to pass on him to take a solid player like an Iginla much like we did last year.

I agree

If we draft DMAN, so be it, personally I think the high end players available at 5 are mainly Dman anyways this year.

At worst you make a move a year or two to accomodate whoever we drafted into the lineup. Asset management is key

 

[HuGort]

Fans: I don't want a late riser like Sennecke!!
Also Fans: IGINLA NO MATTER WHAT!!

Bob McKenzies pre-season rankings: Sennecke HM, Igina NR.
Bob McKenzie's mid-season rankings: Sennecke 19, Iginla 16
Bob McKenzie's pre-lotto rankings: Sennecke 14, Iginla 10.

• Sennecke top 5 votes: 1; Iginla Top 5 votes: 0

I remember you didn't like Thachuk also. Wanted KK.

 

[Jaynki]

I remember you didn't like Thachuk also. Wanted KK.

I remember 95% of this board (me included) wanting Wright and disliking Slafkovsky too body.

And also 95% if this board wanting Zadina.

 

[JoelWarlord]

What about the nightmare scenario (highly unlikely)

1- MC
2-DEMI
3-lindstrom
4- Iggy Jr

They'd just go Levshunov here I think

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

If we're going confession mode, I was HUGE into KK at the draft and was favoring drafting Wright until the very end. I'm not a pro scout, if you were wondering I just go with what I've seen all year and general gut feeling about a player.

 

[vokiel]

A few months ago we were all dreaming that Lindstrom would be available...

Then he got injured and missed the rest of the season.

You have to wonder if they pick him, are they picking the next Kirby Dach?