HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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McGees

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If we win the lottery and get Celebrini, where does he play next season for us?? Second line center over Dach? winger on top 2 lines?? And with who?

And what is our according plan?? We try to get competitive as soon as next season?? What is our move on the trade front to accomplish that?? Go get a top 4 RHD? Or still going for another young talent up front ala Zegras or Necas??
It's too early to dream.
Just like why I don't go visit the lambo store...I'll just feel bad that I can't have it lol.
 

Deebs

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So we keep our actual 1st line like this. I would've switch Caufield on Dach's wing and used Celebrini with Suzuki and Slafkovsky.
If it were to happen that we got Celebrini, which it won't, I'm sure they'd try numerous different options. Who knows what would work or not until they got on the ice and played together for a while.
 

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If we win the lottery and get Celebrini, where does he play next season for us?? Second line center over Dach? winger on top 2 lines?? And with who?

And what is our according plan?? We try to get competitive as soon as next season?? What is our move on the trade front to accomplish that?? Go get a top 4 RHD? Or still going for another young talent up front ala Zegras or Necas??
Slaf-Suzuki-Dach
Caufield-Celebrini-Roy

Theres no one stopping that first line lmao

On the trade market, we need to go hard for a top 4 RD and probably go after a UFA like Marchessault or Guentzel.
 

jiboy

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Guys please sort these 4 russians

Chernyshov
Artamonov
Shuravin
Surin
 

Gustave

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Slaf-Suzuki-Dach
Caufield-Celebrini-Roy

Theres no one stopping that first line lmao

On the trade market, we need to go hard for a top 4 RD and probably go after a UFA like Marchessault or Guentzel.
In the dream scenario of first overall, you throw the kitchen sink at the UFA market and you go for it.
On the trade front, no first round pick is safe from trading. You get the guys you want and you overpay if need be.
 

dcyhabs

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Could've defended himself with *drumroll* not being a little shit but here we are.


Yes they can. It's not about destroying the kid. He can have thay redemption arc as an iron worker or a nurse. I don't give a f***, he decided to act a fool and he got what was coming. NHL is a privilege.
Agreed. In any case Hughes considers the room to be very important. He's not going to draft a guy who feuded with and left so many teams. Avery and Lemieux wore out their welcome with their teammates, and with Lemieux that's in spite of his insane playoff production. Connelly seems to be much more unpleasant as a teammate.

I haven't heard much to indicate Mailloux is a terrible teammate. He has flaws in his game, he probably shouldn't fight, and he did a bad and stupid thing to try to impress (older, I think) teammates in Sweden. I don't think I've heard anything positive about his intelligence, but I don't think he has feuded with or quit on any teams yet.

There are enough good players without major character flaws that you don't need to take a problem guy first round. The calculation may change by the third or fourth round but if he's DND for that many teams the habs probably shouldn't get into that.

First pick they have to try to get an impact player. Better an impact LHD than a pretty good C.
 

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Guys please sort these 4 russians

Chernyshov
Artamonov
Shuravin
Surin

I don't follow Russian prospects as closely as I'd like, but Surin is a guy I've been trying to watch more of to end the year and I really like him. He's got very high-end skill to go with absolutely bonkers compete and physical play. Entertaining to watch as he plays with an edge... but can also play pretty dumb and takes bad penalties. Had a growth spurt to start the year but still has some stockiness to him. If he can work on discipline, I think he's a pretty special blend of high-end skill and physical play. Home-run style pick that could easily become a fan favourite.

I'd take Surin before Chernyshov as I find Chernyshov to be a bit disinterested at times despite his size and a playing style that doesn't really wow me. Looks like a complementary player. Others that have watched him more might see things differently.

You can find quite a bit of footage on Artamonov in @montreal 's Volokhin videos. From what I recall - good player, good passer, high skill level, great motor. Artamonov is likely the best of the three forwards, but I like the unique traits Surin brings as I'm not confident I project any of them as playing at the top of the lineup.

Haven't paid enough attention to Shuravin to comment.

Surin
Artamonov
Chernyshov

Shuravin
 

Playmaker09

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Are we all on board with Charlie Elick ? We're weak at RD and the team needs a defensive rock for lane. I'd go ahead with the Winnipeg pick barring no huge fallers.
Would prefer Emery, I think his D game has the most polish, but there will be a whole group of bigger RDs available in that range:

EJ Emery - 6'3 RD - USNTDP
Adam Jiricek - 6'2 RD - Plzen - Czechia
Harrison Brunicke - 6'3 RD - Kamloops - WHL
Dominik Badinka - 6'3 RD - Malmo - J20/SHL
Charlie Elick - 6'3 RD - Brandon - WHL

Jiricek might be the only one who could go in the top 20 if a team is willing to take a risk.
 

Mrb1p

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Would prefer Emery, I think his D game has the most polish, but there will be a whole group of bigger RDs available in that range:

EJ Emery - 6'3 RD - USNTDP
Adam Jiricek - 6'2 RD - Plzen - Czechia
Harrison Brunicke - 6'3 RD - Kamloops - WHL
Dominik Badinka - 6'3 RD - Malmo - J20/SHL
Charlie Elick - 6'3 RD - Brandon - WHL

Jiricek might be the only one who could go in the top 20 if a team is willing to take a risk.
Emery is nice but he doesn't have that in him:



BPA enough with these RD talk...
What is BPA? The Habs haven't picked BPA once in my lifetime. I guess Hutson. The reality is, like I said barring any major fall, an interesting RD is gonna be available for us. Adding size and defensive acumen would be a good move.
 
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JeffreyLFC

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What is BPA? The Habs haven't picked BPA once in my lifetime. I guess Hutson. The reality is, like I said barring any major fall, an interesting RD is gonna be available for us. Adding size and defensive acumen would be a good move.
I always find reaching for needs quite a scary thought. I think the defense side of our prospect pool is very loaded already and if you want by more pure "need", the Habs lack good right handed Winger and generally speaking very talented top 6 winger. I am certainly not expecting any miracle with Mesar to become that. I know we have Beck but he is not top 6, best case scenario is 3rd/4th line.

Anyway my point is that with the Jets pick I would be very aggressive and try everything in my power to trade up and a get that forward. A guy like MBN or Sennecke would be a perfect fit for us.
 

MarkovsKnee

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I always find reaching for needs quite a scary thought. I think the defense side of our prospect pool is very loaded already and if you want by more pure "need", the Habs lack good right handed Winger and generally speaking very talented top 6 winger. I am certainly not expecting any miracle with Mesar to become that. I know we have Beck but he is not top 6, best case scenario is 3rd/4th line.

Anyway my point is that with the Jets pick I would be very aggressive and try everything in my power to trade up and a get that forward. A guy like MBN or Sennecke would be a perfect fit for us.

This is what I want to do too. Use the Jets pick to trade up into top 20 and take another forward. There's a lot of RD in this draft, and many who'll be available at the Colorado pick.

There's a few teams that I think we can target in that 10-20 range. NJD at #10, SJS at #14 (they've traded back before), NYI at #18 and Vegas at #19 assuming the playoff teams remain where they are and don't get to Final Four.

Sennecke, MBN,
 

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From the most recent Basu and Godin notebook the 3 forwards they mention we would be interested in the draft are: Lindstrom, Iginla, Demidov. Says based on their draft record Catton will not interest us at 5. Sorry WTK. Interestingly no word on Helenius which is who Goldenhands likes.
 

Vachon23

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Slaf-Suzuki-Dach
Caufield-Celebrini-Roy

Theres no one stopping that first line lmao

On the trade market, we need to go hard for a top 4 RD and probably go after a UFA like Marchessault or Guentzel.
I would personally go with

Slaf-Suzuki-Roy
Caufield-Celebrini-Dach
 
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le_sean

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From the most recent Basu and Godin notebook the 3 forwards they mention we would be interested in the draft are: Lindstrom, Iginla, Demidov. Says based on their draft record Catton will not interest us at 5. Sorry WTK. Interestingly no word on Helenius which is who Goldenhands likes.
Exactly what I’ve been saying. The draft record of high 1st rounders by this group (in their past too, not just with the Habs) shows a very obvious trend that doesn’t include players like Catton. You may disagree with that strategy, but it’s what it is.
 
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WeThreeKings

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From the most recent Basu and Godin notebook the 3 forwards they mention we would be interested in the draft are: Lindstrom, Iginla, Demidov. Says based on their draft record Catton will not interest us at 5. Sorry WTK. Interestingly no word on Helenius which is who Goldenhands likes.

I've been saying the same thing - don't worry, I know that Celebrini, Lindstrom and Demidov would be their top 3. I figured they'd go Iginla above Catton, which as I've mentioned many times before is not a take I'm gonna push back on.

It is if all 4 of those guys are off the board that I think Catton would interest them more than Eiserman or Helenius. I think if they are missing out on those forwards and they're in the next tier, it would be Catton or Parekh, and really swing on the offensive upside rather than go with the rounded higher floor guy in Helenius.
 
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