HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Sterling Archer]

I would send him to BU next year, he can score 30 there and it will do wonders for his overall game too. He still won't be 18 until August. Gives Roy time to get used to the league as well. That top-6 could be viable starting in 2025-2026.

Point is, I'm not scared of drafting a player who has elite skills but (fixeable) flaws, considering we have other forwards who are solid defensively and great forecheckers to cover for him and feed him prime scoring chances.

100% agree. Caufield had a ton of question marks regarding his overall play and skating ability and he's rounded his game nicely. Plenty of 200 ft players now so adding much needed snipers can only help a team desperate for goals. And that's not to say Eiserman can't improve his overall game, at least to a point where he's not a hinderance on the ice.

Big, ELITE level snipers don't come around often. Give him a great development coach like MSL and a great playmaking center like Dach and he's primed for success IMO.

My only concern is he won't be there when we draft and I'll have gotten my hopes up for nothing... again lol.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

With Suz, Slaf and Dach, I'm more than willing to draft a guy who's a pure elite sniper who maybe lacks in other areas.

Caufield can be that guy, but having two of them would make us much more dangerous going forward.

And Caufield is not only that! I've always said that Caufield is the most purely skilled player on the Habs. We're seeing it with the playmaking this year, he's not a one trick pony. The same could happen with Eiserman.

For all the talk about "what does he do without the puck?" or "these players don't get you wins in the playoffs", just look at Carolina. They've been kicked out of contention for 5 years just because they can't score in the playoffs. At the end of the day, scoring goals is what gets you the W.

100% agree. Caufield had a ton of question marks regarding his overall play and skating ability and he's rounded his game nicely. Plenty of 200 ft players now so adding much needed snipers can only help a team desperate for goals. And that's not to say Eiserman can't improve his overall game, at least to a point where he's not a hinderance on the ice.

Big, ELITE level snipers don't come around often. Give him a great development coach like MSL and a great playmaking center like Dach and he's primed for success IMO.

My only concern is he won't be there when we draft and I'll have gotten my hopes up for nothing... again lol.

I think he'll be there. Still not confident they like him though.

 

[le_sean]

100% agree. Caufield had a ton of question marks regarding his overall play and skating ability and he's rounded his game nicely. Plenty of 200 ft players now so adding much needed snipers can only help a team desperate for goals. And that's not to say Eiserman can't improve his overall game, at least to a point where he's not a hinderance on the ice.

Big, ELITE level snipers don't come around often. Give him a great development coach like MSL and a great playmaking center like Dach and he's primed for success IMO.

My only concern is he won't be there when we draft and I'll have gotten my hopes up for nothing... again lol.

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills.

 

[The Last Red]

If they draft 7-9, they’re taking Iginla or Eiserman, 100 percent.

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills.

That’s why he won’t be available by 7.

 

[Riggins]

Forget about Eiserman, he's falling like a rock. He will definitely be there when we pick and they won't pick him.

The big question is who's the #4 forward on their board (Catton, Iginla or Helenius) and which do they pick if Lindstrom and Demidov are both gone. Or might they send Habs fans into a tailspin and pick a RD again?

 

[bcv]

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills.

He’s 6’ 200 pounds and he’s one of the youngest player in the draft. He’s most likely going to be playing at 6’1 210 in the NHL, that’s plenty big.

Eiserman is 10x the sniper Lindstrom is. Lindstrom’s « translable skills » really aren’t skills, he’s big and fast, which is great, but he’s the prospect in the top10 that’s shown the least to date. Yes, he’s been injured, but while he wasn’t playing, others have had the chance to show more than he did for now.

I’m taking Eiserman over Lindstrom any day. With that being said, Hughes and MSL know him plenty so if they pass, it’ll be because they don’t think he has what it takes to work on his flaws so I’ll trust their judgement.

That’s not directed at you @le_sean, just in general, but the Eiserman slander has grown out of proportion.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills

It's not that Eiserman will overpower everyone on his way to scoring 50. However, having above-average size is a great advantage to get into scoring areas.

I'm all for Lindstrom but chances are he won't be there at 7. Also, he's not a sniper. Goalscorer, sure, through net drives and chances below the circles. He won't be beating goaltenders from distance regularly.

 

[salbutera]

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills.

From what I’ve seen with my own eyes in person this year, Eiserman is a legit 6’ 180lbs+ without skates on @ 17 yrs of age.

Eiserman’s shot is also lethal…like Caufield

 

[Mrb1p]

Day 125 of calling Iggy the pick

 

[salbutera]

Btw - would like to point out, Pastrnak is now approaching 10-years from draft date and is still pretty piss poor defensively. Playing with Bergeron & Marchand sheltered Pastrnak’s misgivings

Some guy named Bossy was also not very good defensively let alone mediocre skater

 

[Riggins]

Day 125 of calling Iggy the pick

I'm all for it. He needs three goals in three remaining games to get to 50.

I'm big on Catton too but highly skeptical they would actually take him.

 

[le_sean]

He’s 6’ 200 pounds and he’s one of the youngest player in the draft. He’s most likely going to be playing at 6’1 210 in the NHL, that’s plenty big.

Eiserman is 10x the sniper Lindstrom is. Lindstrom’s « translable skills » really aren’t skills, he’s big and fast, which is great, but he’s the prospect in the top10 that’s shown the least to date. Yes, he’s been injured, but while he wasn’t playing, others have had the chance to show more than he did for now.

I’m taking Eiserman over Lindstrom any day. With that being said, Hughes and MSL know him plenty so if they pass, it’ll be because they don’t think he has what it takes to work on his flaws so I’ll trust their judgement.

That’s not directed at you @le_sean, just in general, but the Eiserman slander has grown out of proportion.

Lindstrom is 6’4 already, maybe he will be 6’6. It goes both ways. Fact remains, to label Eiserman as big is inaccurate. You’re also selling Lindstrom short, he has great hands and plays centre. Either you keep him there or he shifts to wing assuming Dach still grows in his role. Medicine Hat were an .700 team until he got hurt and since then they’ve been below .500. He has an impact everywhere and is a true headache to play against.

Eiserman is a good prospect, but all he offers is a shot. There’s a reason he’s slipping in everyone’s rankings despite the numbers, he just hasn’t shown more than one true skill.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Eiserman isn’t big. Unless you mean big compared to Caufield, which includes every other hockey player in the world.

If you want a big sniper, draft Lindstrom. He has way more positive elements to his game than Eiserman. A lot more translatable pro skills.

He’s a bigger body for sure. He’s 6’ now and could easily add another inch and 20-30 lbs. He’s like a Matt Boldy but with an even better shot.

I like Lindstrom a lot too but we already have Dach who fits that mold and Eiserman brings something Habs desperately need, scoring. No one better at that than him in this draft and he’s likely going to set the new record.

So if Habs can add a bigger Caufield to Dach’s line, I think you have a legitimate 1-2 punch and can roll with anyone in the NHl. Other jokes to fill but Eiserman fills a big one really well.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I'd be more than happy with either Eiserman or Lindstrom. Either one would give use "insurance" in their respective role.

Dach's health and faceoff woes make him a bit of a question mark whether he'll be a reliable 2C going forward. Adding Lindstrom would give use another big center that could potentially fill that role.

Caufield's shooting percentage has gone down significantly since his shoulder surgery, so there's a chance he won't end up being that 40 goal threat we were hoping for. Adding Eiserman would give us another lethal shot we can depend on if Caufield's doesn't recover.

 

[crosbyshow]

80% of comments about prospects are about size.... wow great analysis.

My grand Mother who knows s about hockey could do it.

Coliss que je suis tanné....Maudit criss on est en 2024....


Each time I come here I wish to learn about your opinion about zone entrance for example of guys like Eiserman, Iginla etc...but no all about size.

Again.....half of the best players in NHL history were or are undersized.


...and again the 6.0 barr is bs.... bs...

...and again Martin St Louis, Mats Naslund, Theoren Fleury , Sidney Crosby etc etc were great in playoffs as well

 

[Sagikev]

My wife just gave me a reiki spiritual care and i thought about Celebrini all the f***ing way so if we win Celebrini thank my wife

Doing a better job at getting us the 1st overall pick than the habs smh my head

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Eiserman drop is kind of reminiscent of Shane Wright altough faster and steeper. The 'Wright's' draft had less quality players though. There are some question to be asked about him. Especially psychologically. He was neck to neck with Macklin in pre draft hype, now he is falling like a rock.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

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I'm all for it. He needs three goals in three remaining games to get to 50.

I'm big on Catton too but highly skeptical they would actually take him.

just watched some vid of Iginla and I really like his game. Smart, gets his nose dirty, not dazzlingly skilled but low key and effective.

Haven’t really watched anyone else but I’d be stoked. And as much as we’ve been burned by bloodlines, you don’t get much better than Iginla.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don’t know/think Eiserman will be there when Habs pick, but if he drops to us like Caufield did, they HAVE to take him and get Dach his sniper. Eiserman is a no brainer for me at 5-8.

I’d put Eiserman with Suzuki and CC with Dach.

 

[Frank JT]

Many of the best players in the NHL are not 6 feet tall, but many players who are not 6 feet tall are limited offensively in the NHL because of their size. Size is an important factor, among many others. It's okay to discuss the factors of young players.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Very hot take: I'd be okay with picking Eiserman starting at 2.

He's probably going to end up between 8 and 11 on my list but, for the first time in 12 (?) years, I would trust our development team with that pick. Give me the extra-late birthday, 6'1 210lbs (eventually) generational goalscorer, and let him cook for a year at BU with guidance from Adam Nicholas and MSL.

I love Lindstrom, Catton and Demidov and, in a vacuum, they may be more impactful than Eiserman. Given the current makeup of our u24 core though, I would love to add elite goalscoring.

Caufield - Suzuki - Slaf
Eiserman - Dach - Roy

Could be absolutely dynamite as 1A/1B.

I agree.

But that and a box of hamburgers gets you a box of hamburgers. I don’t follow these guys and can only tell you what I’ve read. Last time I wanted Wright based on the track record and we know how that turned out.

But I put a premium on goal scoring and that’s what this guy brings.

I also agree that I trust our development group. The guy has all the tools. His passing isn’t bad, skating is good, size is okay… he just doesn’t seem to use them to the best of his abilities. But all that can be taught.

He’d be my choice as well.

 

[RationalExpectations]

100% agree. Caufield had a ton of question marks regarding his overall play and skating ability and he's rounded his game nicely. Plenty of 200 ft players now so adding much needed snipers can only help a team desperate for goals. And that's not to say Eiserman can't improve his overall game, at least to a point where he's not a hinderance on the ice.

Big, ELITE level snipers don't come around often. Give him a great development coach like MSL and a great playmaking center like Dach and he's primed for success IMO.

My only concern is he won't be there when we draft and I'll have gotten my hopes up for nothing... again lol.

Caufield question marks were and are to be fair still related to his size and the overall impact, never about IQ and effort which is why Eiserman has been dropping from what I read.

 

[Goldenhands]

Are you at all concerned about how his offensive game translates to the nhl? What is your output projection in the nhl?

Nope, thats a kid who plays a pro game already, works extremmely well in tigh areas, strong and highly combative on pucks, very strong skater, very high IQ, very high motor and good skills level.

Despite his small frame, he has good body strength, he keeps possession and thats where we are headed, thats the type of team they are building. He brings speed, pace, hard work and talent.

I think he could play for Laval next year, but he has a big role in Jukurit already, so I wouldnt be against returning him for another year if ever he is our pick.

As for the projection, I would say a solid top 6 center with about 70 pts potential in the mold of a Suzuki, can play wings too.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Caufield question marks were and are to be fair still related to his size and the overall impact, never about IQ and effort which is why Eiserman has been dropping from what I read.

His supposed lack of IQ hasn’t stopped him from scoring at a record level pace though. I’m fine with that as long as he can fill the net.

https://x.com/talk_canadiens/status/1769024261497205146?s=46&t=zttr9gnCLJOyXqslYWoHgg

 

[KevSkillz4]