2024 NHL Draft Thread - Upd: Draft Lottery is May 7th

[kmwtrucks]

it was may 8th last year.

 

[Giovi]

i think its

Celebrini and then 1 of Demidov, Lindstrom or Arytom L. We have 6 LD prospects that I think could be NHL players, So I dont think Dickenson or Silaynev make sense. Catton Lacks size so we have alot of that already. Bedard, Nazar, Morre, slagert, lardis, ludwinski, Kantserov, that is why I think lindstrom would be a option. Demidov has probably the highest skill level or anyone in the draft including celebrini.

If the Hawks feel Catton projects as a top line forward, I don't see them bypassing him because of his size.

 

[giza]

If the Hawks draft 2nd, I think they are taking the MIchigan State kid. They could certainly use some skilled size up the middle which makes Lindstrom attractive. If they pick 3rd and Celebini and Michigan State are gone, my money is Lindstrom.

 

[ndgt10]

Is it just me, or are the Sharks tanking incredibly hard?

 

[kmwtrucks]

I went back and look and the worst team in the last 10 years +/- was DET -129 in 71 games Sharks are sharks are -126 in 68. My only hope is we hold off ANA not as much for draft lottery % 2 and 3 are very close it just limits how much we move down

I went back and look and the worst team in the last 10 years +/- was DET -129 in 71 games Sharks are sharks are -126 in 68. My only hope is we hold off ANA not as much for draft lottery % 2 and 3 are very close it just limits how much we move down

 

[Wally1112pac]

Is it just me, or are the Sharks tanking incredibly hard?

They are dressing 2 AHL goalies. They have the last spot on lock.

The Ducks are also pathetic. It seems like all they can do is lose. Season in and season out.

During the McDavid draft year the Sabres traded away everyone who was playing well. They traded goalies who played well just so they could tank. That's super dangerous because management is letting the players know that they just want to lose. It let's the players know that losing is ok. That is how you stay in a rebuild for 10 years.

I'm glad Davidson resigned Mrazek, Dickinson and Foligno and didn't trade them for a bunch of 2nds. Although the team is in a rebuild it let's the players know that winning is still important. Unlike the Sharks and Ducks who seem to be doing what the Sabres did.

 

[kmwtrucks]

They are dressing 2 AHL goalies. They have the last spot on lock.

The Ducks are also pathetic. It seems like all they can do is lose. Season in and season out.

During the McDavid draft year the Sabres traded away everyone who was playing well. They traded goalies who played well just so they could tank. That's super dangerous because management is letting the players know that they just want to lose. It let's the players know that losing is ok. That is how you stay in a rebuild for 10 years.

I'm glad Davidson resigned Mrazek, Dickinson and Foligno and didn't trade them for a bunch of 2nds. Although the team is in a rebuild it let's the players know that winning is still important. Unlike the Sharks and Ducks who seem to be doing what the Sabres did.

I'm guessing at the time those 3 were not going to return 2nds so that is why he resigned them worth more to the team then pick 85. IMO the fact that tyler did not return anything Im guessing there was not much value. maybe next year at the TDL we do more. hall, AA, donato, murph if he can stay healthy with retention. hopefully we can add a few cap dumps this off season. feels like retention spots do not have as much value unless its not on expiring contracts. its all because of the # of teams are LTIR.

 

[BHawk21]

If the Hawks draft 2nd, I think they are taking the MIchigan State kid. They could certainly use some skilled size up the middle which makes Lindstrom attractive. If they pick 3rd and Celebini and Michigan State are gone, my money is Lindstrom.

I think I am on the same page. Big high end right handed defenseman are so hard to come by. I can just imagine our version of McAvoy playing with Korchinski Del Mastro or Vlasic.

 

[hawksrule]

We need a sure thing top line forward. It’s that simple. Chicago isn’t in position to gamble on a top-five pick.

 

[CanadianHawks]

I think I am on the same page. Big high end right handed defenseman are so hard to come by. I can just imagine our version of McAvoy playing with Korchinski Del Mastro or Vlasic.

We set our D up for the next decade if we hit on the RHD. You can get 2Cs and top line wingers later in the draft and Free Agency. Almost impossible to find a top pair RHD

Teams like the Leafs have been looking for a decade

If the Hawks draft 2nd, I think they are taking the MIchigan State kid. They could certainly use some skilled size up the middle which makes Lindstrom attractive. If they pick 3rd and Celebini and Michigan State are gone, my money is Lindstrom.

Saw he was Big Ten defensive player of the year as a Freshmen

I’m a Michigan fan and I want to take him. That should tell you everything. Guy is playing over 25 mins a game as an 18 year old D controlling play. 32 points in 35 games

 

[x Tame Impala]

A top 5 pick and a little bit of luck is all we can hope for. Top 5 picks in the recent drafts...

2022: Slafkovsky, Nemec, Cooley, Wright, Gauthier
2021: Powers, Beniers, McTavish, L. Hughes, Johnson
2020: Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson
2019: Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Byram, Turcotte
2018: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, Hayton
2017: Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen, Makar, Pettersson
2016: Matthews, Laine, PLD, Puljujarvi, Juolevi
2015: McDavid, Eichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin
2014: Ekblad, Reinhart, Draisaitl, Bennett, Dal Colle
2013: MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones, Lindholm

 

[CanadianHawks]

This draft kinda reminds me of the 2008 draft from the research I have done. One elite talent at forward with a glut of D after them. It was Stamkos picked first then Doughty Bogosian Petro and Schenn that year

 

[belfour30]

A top 5 pick and a little bit of luck is all we can hope for. Top 5 picks in the recent drafts...

2022: Slafkovsky, Nemec, Cooley, Wright, Gauthier
2021: Powers, Beniers, McTavish, L. Hughes, Johnson
2020: Laf, Byfield, Stutzle, Raymond, Sanderson
2019: Hughes, Kakko, Dach, Byram, Turcotte
2018: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Tkachuk, Hayton
2017: Hischier, Patrick, Heiskanen, Makar, Pettersson
2016: Matthews, Laine, PLD, Puljujarvi, Juolevi
2015: McDavid, Eichel, Strome, Marner, Hanifin
2014: Ekblad, Reinhart, Draisaitl, Bennett, Dal Colle
2013: MacKinnon, Barkov, Drouin, Jones, Lindholm

2019 is a big oof after Jack Hughes.

 

[BHawk21]

We need a sure thing top line forward. It’s that simple. Chicago isn’t in position to gamble on a top-five pick.

And who is that?

Celebrini Demidov and Eiserman?

 

[WarriorofTime]

And who is that?

Celebrini Demidov and Eiserman?

I don't know what that guy means by "Chicago isn't in a position to gamble"... every pick is a gamble for one reason or another and Celebrini is the only real "sure thing". I also don't get all of the panic, of course the Hawks have needs, but the youth and surplus of picks is good overall... I think people sometimes forget the Hawks already have Bedard in place, most teams would trade all of their top 5 prospects for him. It's a huge advantage for a building block down the road.

As far as forwards go, Demidov, Eiserman, Lindstrom, Catton, Helenius in whatever order. I like Demidov the most of that group. A skilled top line winger would be an excellent addition to what's in place. Nobody in the system right now projects as a Right Wing. He has all the makings of a top liner with star potential.

 

[Larmer83]

Until further notice, I would be leery to select Lindstrom near the top of the draft due to his injury. Here's a January 16th article on that topic:

Tigers split weekend, host new-look Broncos tonight - Medicine Hat News

[email protected]@ReporterTubb The Medicine Hat Tigers continue to showcase resiliency while atop the Central division. After a 5-3 road loss Friday to Lethbridge, they bounced back to hold on to beat the Hurricanes 3-2 on a chilly Saturday night. The Tigers have continued their trend of...

medicinehatnews.com

Lindstrom out 4-6 weeks

The Tigers will look to find that consistency and success without forward Cayden Lindstrom, who has missed the last nine games with an upper body injury and will remain out for another four to six weeks following a surgery last Wednesday.

Lindstrom is now past 9 weeks on his 4-6 week return.

 

[Chuck Testa]

I don't know what that guy means by "Chicago isn't in a position to gamble"... every pick is a gamble for one reason or another and Celebrini is the only real "sure thing". I also don't get all of the panic, of course the Hawks have needs, but the youth and surplus of picks is good overall... I think people sometimes forget the Hawks already have Bedard in place, most teams would trade all of their top 5 prospects for him. It's a huge advantage for a building block down the road.

As far as forwards go, Demidov, Eiserman, Lindstrom, Catton, Helenius in whatever order. I like Demidov the most of that group. A skilled top line winger would be an excellent addition to what's in place. Nobody in the system right now projects as a Right Wing. He has all the makings of a top liner with star potential.

Helenius did not impress me at all at the WJHC... I'm not even sure I would select him with the second 1st rounder the Hawks have.

 

[hawksfan50]

I think KD will go
1.Celebrini
2.Lindstrom
3.Levshunov


In terms of skill talent with compete Demidov would be BPA after Celebrini...some might have him axtually ahead of Celebrini except that he projects as a winger not a Center in the NHL AND the Russian factor (uncertainty of when he can come over (his contract in the KHL is actualky a year less to end than Michkov....but Vladimir Putin has stated he intendscto bring a new law to keep young Russian NHL draftees at home in Russia for several years after they are drafted to the NHL unless compensation transfer payments made to KHL teams having these players ubder cobtract ...with Russia under suspension for such transfer compensation deals duecto the war they instituted o Ukraine,it is anyone's guess if Putin puts in that threat of keeping young Rusdian kids at home for a lengthier time than just their current contract with a KHL club expiring or not)

Thus NHL clubs may have legit concerns draftibg Russian unless they are prepared to wait maybe 5-6 years after drafting them if Putin puts in this new law he has threatened to institute.

I do not think KD wouldctake such risk on Denidov given the re-buikd pkan needs to get kids into Hawks pipeline under their control for development and I think the development expected of a 2st rounder that high is just 1 -2yrars at most.

Maybe a team drafting lower whobakready have good prospects coming for them will take that risk and wait for Demidov even if they do not see him for 4,5,6 years doen the road..

This I think Lindstrom isx2nd on KD's list..

If Hawks draft 3rd then if Lindstrom ofg the boatd he may just go dman with Levshunov even if Demidov is higher on KD's BPA list .

Or maybe he accepts a trade down a few spots in a good package of still actio ten pick plus other draft picks or prospects.

Of course IF he surprises me and takes Demidov 3rd,4th,or evem 5th if we are bumped down 2 spots after finishing 3rd by over-taking ANH, then KD has this carrot to placate disgruntled Hawks fans for next 4,5,6 seasons where Hawks vanted re-build is slower than expected.. and the" But wait for the magician Demidov" chant might save KD's job if upper brass not sold on speed progression ofv the re-build. But this Saviour is already "in the bank"...just have to wait for hom.

 

[hawksfan50]

The rest of the draft is just as fascinating for the Hawks as is the first selection possibilities.

TB currently 20th pick (unlessvthey advance to EC Final ...if they do not Hawksvprbably looking at TB pick sonehere between 19-21 ..

My #2 target forvtgat pick is Chicago Steel Center Michael Hage 6'1 190...who is having realky terrfic finish to tgecUSHL regular season this spring..His first half was below expectation then he got injured...but since coning back he really took off is finish great.
He checks KD's top box of skating speed plus skill combo and good 3 zone play and motor..
He is easily a contender for that TB pick.

Ifvtge Hawks want to take a swing and are prepared to wait (as they may not do with their 1st overall selection) they could go with Yegor Surin the Russian kid who is ferocious...hardest hitter in the draft...physical edge good skater with skill...Potebtial to realky inpact the game with physicality disruption ..and he has some decent skills too..His only issue to easily projecting into an NHL player who can influence the play by physicality is maybe a lack of discipline where he gets over-exhuberant resulting in penalties.

Pansy Hawks do not have any prosoect like him
If Hage already off the board ,maybe Hawks take this unique kind of player...maybe lije Tom Wilson was for Washington when he came into tthe NHL ..teans feared playing such a physical force.

Surin was expected to be a mid 2nd to early 3rd pick earlier this season but as scoutszwatched morevog hom in tge MHL,he seems to now be a riser for several fibal rankibgs getting into consideration for a 2nd half of roubd one type pick ..
Or KD might fo for a dman here ...speculation maybe the Checkia RD Adam Jiricek who was expected to be the top RD prospect before he both got off to a leas than expected production funk then got injured and out for tgexsesson .. So scouts must rely on the promise of him they saw last season...and thatcis very risky in my opinion..

Or he might go LD for a pmd who can score abd be a pp qb...Alfons Freij...who might not be there for us with pick #34 (or #35if we catch ANH)...


Targets of possible interest if still on the board round 2 if all above already taken:

Our own pick (#34 or #35?):

Big Prep School Center Dean Letourneau
Beckett Sennicke C/RW Oshawa OHL
Nikita Artamanov RW (Torpedo KHL)
Colton Roberts RD Vancouver WHL *

* may not last till our L A. Pick...

L.A. pick we own: 1 of

Atos Koivu C
Melvin Fernstrom RW
Spencer Gill RD (Qmjhl)
John Mustard LW (Ushl)


Van pick we own:

Jacob Battaglia RW Kingston OHL
Hagen Burrows C Minn H.S


Do not know if we tak a goale thisdraft...ifcso maybe a longer development project like some Russian goalie who comes over once the Russians drvelip him next 4-5 years after we draft hom or some goalie to develop next 4 vyears in NCAA?

 

[Malaka]

Until further notice, I would be leery to select Lindstrom near the top of the draft due to his injury. Here's a January 16th article on that topic:

Tigers split weekend, host new-look Broncos tonight - Medicine Hat News

[email protected]@ReporterTubb The Medicine Hat Tigers continue to showcase resiliency while atop the Central division. After a 5-3 road loss Friday to Lethbridge, they bounced back to hold on to beat the Hurricanes 3-2 on a chilly Saturday night. The Tigers have continued their trend of...

medicinehatnews.com

Lindstrom out 4-6 weeks

The Tigers will look to find that consistency and success without forward Cayden Lindstrom, who has missed the last nine games with an upper body injury and will remain out for another four to six weeks following a surgery last Wednesday.

Lindstrom is now past 9 weeks on his 4-6 week return.

Would take it with a grain of salt, not sure why a prospect would rush to come back when the draft is 3 months away. If it required surgery he would be done for the season

 

[ello]

Any chance that Lindstroms injury/condition is being kept quiet as to not affect his draft stock? aka it could worse than we're being told and may be lingering/require intensive surgery?

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Any chance that Lindstroms injury/condition is being kept quiet as to not affect his draft stock? aka it could worse than we're being told and may be lingering/require intensive surgery?

It'll come to light at the combine and hockey is a pretty small world. Dropping twenty spots doesn't change your pay like it does in football or baseball. If he was hurt that bad being quiet about it would be the worst possible thing for his career.

 

[hawksfan50]

I have posted above why C Michael Hage and W Yegor Surin should be forwards under consideration forcthe TB first rounder we own...

At our first pick in round 2 2 I might akso consider Julius Miettiben a big 6'3 200 Center pkaying for Everett WHL...

Like Hage he has a very productive 2ndvhalf improving to dominance as his regular season hits the finish line.

I think he would have been more of a 50s kind of pick earlier this season but the strong finish should move him into consideration for an early round 2 pick.

Several rankingbout big 6'7 209 C DeanLetourneau in the late first ound he had 127 points in 56 GP for Starters.Andrews Colkege (Prep School) and because Orep School.i n a lower levelmofvcomoetition usually prospects from there are not first round picks...howver Letourneau should IF Healthy play for Canada at the Workd 18s this spring...IF he excelsctherevit could boost his draft and if that happens he might be another to consider withbourcTB first rounder...
If he makes it out of round 1,to early roundc2 then obviously another KD may target with our own early 2nd round pick at #34 or#35...

 

[Castle8130]

My guess is Davidson continues his pattern of red heads and the Hawks select one of Catton, Dickinson, or Vanacker.

 

[Malaka]

My guess is Davidson continues his pattern of red heads and the Hawks select one of Catton, Dickinson, or Vanacker.

Wow I’m just like him