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2024 NHL Draft Thread Part 2 - Picks 2 & 18 in the 1st Round

Who do we take?

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Kevin Musto said:
Demidov doesn't have an "unreal ceiling".

You're getting someone that, best case scenario, turns into a Clayton Keller level player.

I get it. You're excited we have the 2nd overall pick. But it's not an exceptional draft class.
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Its not like there is sure fire superstar that Hawks could draft with 2OA. But Demidov sure has potetial to be good prospect. His skills and IQ are really good and he works hard without shying away from contact. Also if Demidov can be a PPG player like Keller that is good thing.
 
at this point you add as many game changers as possible and then trade or sign for what you are missing. If they veiw Demidov as PPG wing you take him. Maybe he does not fit on bedards line. that is fine. you need to 2 great lines to win in the playoffs.
 
TLEH said:
Demidov is Keller but Silayev is Chara, got it.
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The potential is there for Silayev because he's a unicorn prospect. Doesn't mean he'll reach his potential.
BHawks77 said:
Its not like there is sure fire superstar that Hawks could draft with 2OA. But Demidov sure has potetial to be good prospect. His skills and IQ are really good and he works hard without shying away from contact. Also if Demidov can be a PPG player like Keller that is good thing.
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I agree with you. I'm not saying otherwise.
 
Silayev is not going to be Chara. If his ceiling was Chara he would be the number 1 pick.

There has been 3 towering Franchise D in the history of the game. Pronger, Chara and Hedman.

Pronger and Hedman were tagged as franchise Dman in their draft year. They also had the offensive potential as teenagers. Chara came out of no where but it took him almost 8 years post draft to max his potential. He was good for 40-50 points and was a beast in his own end. Silayev doesn't have the same offense as those 3. Don't use the "projection" card either. If he's not showing it, he's not showing it.

Silayev can become anything from Jamie Oleksiak to Tyler Myers if he hits. He could also be Zadorov.

If we had the 8th pick I wouldn't mind gambling on him in hopes he becomes Tyler Myers. But I'm not drafting him in the top 5. Not enough offensive potential to justify going that high.
 
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If Demitov is dratted #2, 'm heavily favoring Elick with #20 and wouldn't opposed to move up to the late first round to get Letourneau depending on the cost. Top skill guy to play with Bedard, right handed D man who skates, is physical and has a big shot and a big Center prospect......fills a lot of needs, folks!
 
Kevin Musto said:
You're getting someone that, best case scenario, turns into a Clayton Keller level player.
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Keller last two seasons in Arizona while being the focal point of offense and playing with limited talent around him

22-23 = 37 goals + 49 assists for 86 pts in 82 games
23-24 = 33 goals + 43 assists for 76 pts in 78 games

Hawks brass will be very pleased to add a talent like this at #2
 
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Blackhawkswincup said:
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Keller last two seasons in Arizona while being the focal point of offense and playing with limited talent around him

22-23 = 37 goals + 49 assists for 86 pts in 82 games
23-24 = 33 goals + 43 assists for 76 pts in 78 games

Hawks brass will be very pleased to add a talent like this at #2
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I didn't say it was a problem.
 
Kevin Musto said:
Demidov doesn't have an "unreal ceiling".

You're getting someone that, best case scenario, turns into a Clayton Keller level player.

I get it. You're excited we have the 2nd overall pick. But it's not an exceptional draft class.
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From all the scouting and prospect info I've read and video I've watched , you and Corey Pronman are the only ones that don't see an unreal ceiling . I've seen Kane , Kucherov , Datsyuk and Kaprizov. Keller might be his floor is closer to accurate.
 
Pronman and wheeler did a 2 round mock.
#2 CP Arytom demidov went 5
#20 CP IGOR C Luchanko went 18 emery 19 connely 21 Hage 23 and Bosivert 24
#34 CP Juilius mierttien Elick 32 Hemming 33 Meows 35 eriksson 36
#54 CP Carson Wetsch 53 stiga #55 muggli 56 RD Luca marrelli
#61 CP Jacob battagalia 60 Poirier 62 misa

if it was me. Im not fan of CP and he made all our picks
Demidov
Hage
meows
MArrelli
Misa
 
Pronman's mock made a lot of sense if we went Levshunov. Emphasis on size, size, skating, and size. Maybe some more size too.

Chernyshov is a definite possibility at 20 and I wouldn't rule out MBN either. Both fit the mold of guys that can fly, have size, and good compete. Hawks need players like that.

I do have to say, I bet even if we do draft Levshhunov, we grab a defender in the 2nd round as well. Miettinen is a good pick at 34 and gives the Hawks a player type we need too. Wasn't the biggest fan of Carson Wetsch. Feel like he won't be a Hawks pick. Battaglia is a classic Hawks pick. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

My wish list is to go after a premium position (center or defenseman) with that 34th oa pick. A lot of projectable guys in that range like O'Reilly/Miettinen/Eriksson/Pettersson/Danford/Pulkkinen/Shuravin. Most of these guys should be available. Picks 54 and 61 is a different story. A guy like Battaglia or Tarin Smith come to mind at that spot.
 
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Battaglia I could see for sure.

Although I would prefer Artamonov at 34 if he was there like he was in the mock. Rather than Miettinen. I watched a bit of Everett this year and I'm not blown away by him.
 


Side note, this is whats wrong with internet hockey prospect shit in general. This guy gets up here and spews stuff about prospects all the time, who they should take at 2, etc. Then posts shit like this. Okay then? Your opinion is now irrelevant. Thanks.
 
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TLEH said:


Side note, this is whats wrong with internet hockey prospect shit in general. This guy gets up here and spews stuff about prospects all the time, who they should take at 2, etc. Then posts shit like this. Okay then? Your opinion is now irrelevant. Thanks.
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I don’t like Chief, but prospect opinion gatekeeping is stupid.

At least he admits he doesn’t watch.
 
TLEH said:
If you don't watch, then you don't have an opinion. Its not a problem to not have an opinion. Its a problem to pass other people's opinions off as your own.
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I agree, but there’s a difference between literally not watching at all vs only watching some ncaa games and WJC.

I’m not defending Chief, just to be clear.
 
HawksDub89 said:
I agree, but there’s a difference between literally not watching at all vs only watching some ncaa games and WJC.

I’m not defending Chief, just to be clear.
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Right but if you're going to be some local hockey personality on twitter throwing opinions all over the place then you've gotta do at least a little homework. We throw opinions around on HF but it's a mutual understanding none of us are experts and what we say doesn't demand respect
 
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WarriorofTime said:
"I have no idea who any of these players are and have never seen a game or even highlight compilation for any of them.

Anyways, my pick is [X]. It would be moronic to go with anyone else."

NHL Fans with the Draft in a nutshell.
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Lmao, this describes so many people and even a little bit of myself. There is such little video on many prospects that most of everyones opinions should be thrown out the window. It's not like college football where most games can be found on video
 
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x Tame Impala said:
Right but if you're going to be some local hockey personality on twitter throwing opinions all over the place then you've gotta do at least a little homework. We throw opinions around on HF but it's a mutual understanding none of us are experts and what we say doesn't demand respect
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Guess it depends on your opinion of chief. I view him as a Blackhawks fanboy.

I don’t view him in the same grouping as a Scott powers or any of the guys/gals who actually cover the team.

I agree though he tries to push this idea that he’s an insider. Which he clearly isn’t.
 
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