HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft -- Rate it, Love it or Hate it
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BLONG7
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The two first rounders were fantastic!!
Adding Koivu was great to see
Gotta be A+ for me!
Surprised to hear Gorton saying they are looking at a couple of ufa's??
Adding Koivu was great to see
Gotta be A+ for me!
Thought there was a trade coming also.............still think that can happen in the next few days or weeks....
Surprised to hear Gorton saying they are looking at a couple of ufa's??
red devil
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Team_Spirit
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So Lapointe said Hage and Sawyer were the 2 hotshot in the GTA minor hockey?
Big if true
Big if true
Whitesnake
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I see it the same way : drafting wise I d put A because I really love the three first picks but a few guys in the 2nd round could have been had at a low cost (see Malentsyn trade) but I also thought draft would be the occasion to dump some salary and that has not been the case. The Habs still have a crapload of Dmen (currently 9 at NHL level + Hutson Reinbacher who should start in the AHL)
Matheson Savard
Guhle Barron
Harris Mailloux
Struble Kovacevic
Xhekaj
Hutson Reinbacher
There is time to do trades so let s see what happens
Only for Demidov it's a A+, never been so happy since the Caufield pick in the first round
red devil
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They still have 3 months to make a trade before the season starts in October
No More Subban
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Demidov, Hage and Koivu = A+++
Tyler Thorpe also seems intriguing. 6'4 forward, 23g/21a in 51 games
Tyler Thorpe also seems intriguing. 6'4 forward, 23g/21a in 51 games
ProspectsFanatic
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Following my list, my BPAs were:
1st: 5. Ivan Demidov - 6'1 - RW/C
1st: 21. Liam Greentree - 6'4 - RW
3rd: 70. Miguel Marques - 5'10 - RW
3rd: 78. Aron Kiviharju - 5'10 - D
4th: 102. Simon Zether - 6'3 - C
5th: 130. Anthony Romani - 6'0 - C/RW
5th: 134. Justin Poirier - 5'8 - RW
6th: 166. Kieron Walton - 6'6 - C/LW
7th: 210. Darels Uljanskis - 6'2 - D
7th: 224. Daniil Anatsky - 6'3 - C
1st: 5. Ivan Demidov - 6'1 - RW/C
1st: 21. Liam Greentree - 6'4 - RW
3rd: 70. Miguel Marques - 5'10 - RW
3rd: 78. Aron Kiviharju - 5'10 - D
4th: 102. Simon Zether - 6'3 - C
5th: 130. Anthony Romani - 6'0 - C/RW
5th: 134. Justin Poirier - 5'8 - RW
6th: 166. Kieron Walton - 6'6 - C/LW
7th: 210. Darels Uljanskis - 6'2 - D
7th: 224. Daniil Anatsky - 6'3 - C
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I think it's worth looking into how it shook out. For instance a small analysis of Bob McKenzie's list reveals the following: of the top 10 picks, he was on average 3 spots off and of the top16 he was 3.6 ranks off. What's wild is he nailed the top14 except for the order, which tells me that there was a clear tier difference between the top14 and below them.
How did Pronman and others do?
How did Pronman and others do?
| Player (list order is Bobby Mac) | McKenzie Prediction | Real Draft Rank | Difference |
| Macklin Celebrini (C) | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Ivan Demidov (RW/C) | 2 | 5 | 3 |
| Artyom Levshunov (D) | 3 | 2 | -1 |
| Anton Silayev (D) | 4 | 10 | 6 |
| Cayden Lindstrom (C) | 5 | 4 | -1 |
| Sam Dickinson (D) | 6 | 11 | 5 |
| Zeev Buium (D) | 7 | 12 | 5 |
| Zayne Parekh (D) | 8 | 9 | 1 |
| Konsta Helenius (C/RW) | 9 | 14 | 5 |
| Tij Iginla (LW) | 10 | 6 | -4 |
| Beckett Sennecke (RW) | 11 | 3 | -8 |
| Berkly Catton (C) | 12 | 8 | -4 |
| Carter Yakemchuk (D) | 13 | 7 | -6 |
| Cole Eiserman (LW) | 14 | 20 | 6 |
| Trevor Connelly (LW) | 15 | 19 | 4 |
| Adam Jiříček (D) | 16 | 16 | 0 |
| Michael Brandsegg-Nygård (RW) | 17 | 15 | -2 |
| Liam Greentree (RW) | 18 | 26 | 8 |
| Jett Luchanko (C) | 19 | 13 | -6 |
| Stian Solberg (D) | 20 | 23 | 3 |
| Igor Chernyshov (LW) | 21 | 33 | 12 |
| Sacha Boisvert (C) | 22 | 18 | -4 |
| Cole Beaudoin (C) | 23 | 24 | 1 |
| Michael Hage (C) | 24 | 21 | -3 |
| Terik Parascak (RW) | 25 | 17 | -8 |
| Emil Hemming (RW) | 26 | 29 | 3 |
| EJ Emery (D) | 27 | 30 | 3 |
| Marek Vanacker (LW) | 28 | 27 | -1 |
| Dominik Badinka (D) | 29 | 34 | 5 |
| Andrew Basha (LW) | 30 | 41 | 11 |
| Ryder Ritchie (RW) | 31 | 45 | 14 |
| Sam O'Reilly (C) | 32 | 32 | 0 |
MrNasty
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Ive got a spreadsheet and will run the numbers to see. But the real answer is 5 years from now.
They could have had Greentree without trading up. We’ll see how he compares to Hage.
GrandmaCookie
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Barron, Harris have no value. maybe a 6th round pick to make some spaces or put them on waivers if you can't trade them.
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I'm mostly concerned about who got their draft predictions right. Looking forward to seeing your numbers. Obviously, you're right we'll know about the fate of the draft as the players bleed into the NHL.
Estimated_Prophet
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Meh, they are all charlatans other than Mackenzie and his top 14 were many poster's top 14 as there was a fairly evident tier. I actually had 19 of the top 20 with Parascak out and Hage in but I don't consider myself as having special knowledge of this draft class and I certainly am not an insider lol.
Also just found out that Logan Sawyer was the same Sawyer kid with the Vaughn Kings in the GTHL and was one of the most hyped kids in that league along with Hage who I did remember as the best player in the league on a stacked JRC team.
Sawyer and Sam O'Reilly who Edmonton took in the first round were the best players on Vaughn and Sawyer may have slipped to the cracks playing in the BCHL/AJHL.....I certainly didn't put it together as the B.C. thing threw me off and I only really knew the kid by his last name in the GTHL lol.
Also just found out that Logan Sawyer was the same Sawyer kid with the Vaughn Kings in the GTHL and was one of the most hyped kids in that league along with Hage who I did remember as the best player in the league on a stacked JRC team.
Sawyer and Sam O'Reilly who Edmonton took in the first round were the best players on Vaughn and Sawyer may have slipped to the cracks playing in the BCHL/AJHL.....I certainly didn't put it together as the B.C. thing threw me off and I only really knew the kid by his last name in the GTHL lol.
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I disagree. I think fans have some grudge vs Barron for some reason. How many Dmen in their D+4 have scored as many point as Barron ? Behind Matheson he is MtL best puck moving D at NHL level right now..
Then again we got a big gars de chez nous , only a xeno will say otherwise . Oh and he even speaks French !
MrNasty
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Ok, well that was an interesting exercise. # 1 is a surprise but the rest of the accurate ones should not be a surprise. They are well known as experts and some have worked on NHL teams before.
Here is how far each ranking (on average) was off from the actual draft results. Some caveats:
1) PM @ Draft Rankings - whoever this guy is. Off by an average of 4.84 spots
2) McKenzie 4.88 - the gold standard
3) Chris Peters/Flo Hockey 5.25
4) Corey Pronman Athletic 6.25
5) Jason Bukala Sportsnet 6.41
6) Rachel Doerrie ESPN 6.91
7) Upside Hockey 6.94
8) Malloy HP radio 7.19
9) McKeens 7.38
10) Hockey news 7.84
11) Scott Wheeler Athletic 7.88
12) Craig Button 8.00
13) Elite prospects 8.22
14) Ryan Ellis Daily FO 8.34
15) Dobber 9.97
16) Smaht 11.13
17) DraftPro 12.34
18) Recruits Hockey 12.59
19) Scouching 13.16
20) Future Considerations 16.72
Here is how far each ranking (on average) was off from the actual draft results. Some caveats:
- Took Round 1 only
- It's how far off on average they were from actual draft results
- Had to elminate a few sources as I didn't have their rankings past 32. i.e. Hockey prospect/Black Book
- Also excluded if they dont share anything without cost (Recrutes)
- Excluded CSS as they don't combine NA and European rankings
- Being way off on a few guys can skew the overall result.
1) PM @ Draft Rankings - whoever this guy is. Off by an average of 4.84 spots
2) McKenzie 4.88 - the gold standard
3) Chris Peters/Flo Hockey 5.25
4) Corey Pronman Athletic 6.25
5) Jason Bukala Sportsnet 6.41
6) Rachel Doerrie ESPN 6.91
7) Upside Hockey 6.94
8) Malloy HP radio 7.19
9) McKeens 7.38
10) Hockey news 7.84
11) Scott Wheeler Athletic 7.88
12) Craig Button 8.00
13) Elite prospects 8.22
14) Ryan Ellis Daily FO 8.34
15) Dobber 9.97
16) Smaht 11.13
17) DraftPro 12.34
18) Recruits Hockey 12.59
19) Scouching 13.16
20) Future Considerations 16.72
ChesterNimitz
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Many had the same concerns about our drafting of Florian Xhekaj. After Round 3, the draft largely becomes the Keno of sport management.
GrandmaCookie
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13 points? I'm sure a f***tone have lmao. I mean just from his draft (2020), Sanderson, Schneider, Faber, Ghule have him beat and its a tie with Lohrei. CBA to check every other draft but dman scoring 13 points or more in their D+4 must be times a dozen.
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