Prospect Info: 2024 Montreal Canadiens Rookie Camp (September 11-17)

[habsprospects]

It is not a rule that the NHL can control but a tactic that the NCAA uses to keep kids in their ranks as they will lose NCAA eligibility if they take part.

I think they technically can go to rookie camp, they just cant get paid any expenses by the Habs, just like the development camp, they just dont go because school is started.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I think they technically can go to rookie camp, they just cant get paid any expenses by the Habs, just like the development camp, they just dont go because school is started.

I don't think that they are allowed to play a professional game in NA. I do not know for sure but I don't recall ever seeing a player with intentions to go the NCAA route play a pre-season or rookie camp game. You would be correct about the majority of prospects who go directly to the NCAA after the draft but there are players like Vecvanags who need another year in the BCHL or in the American HS system that I have yet to see play in such a camp. I could be wrong for sure but I would need some evidence to prove otherwise.

 

[schwang26]

If he is going to the BCHL with hopes of going to the NCAA next season then no, he can not play in this tournament.

These are NCAA restrictions, not NHL/BCHL etc restrictions

He hasn’t signed with any ncaa team, so I’m not sure that makes any sense as to why he wouldn’t play next weekend. Not that I care that much. Just curious.

 

[schwang26]

I don't think that they are allowed to play a professional game in NA. I do not know for sure but I don't recall ever seeing a player with intentions to go the NCAA route play a pre-season or rookie camp game. You would be correct about the majority of prospects who go directly to the NCAA after the draft but there are players like Vecvanags who need another year in the BCHL or in the American HS system that I have yet to see play in such a camp. I could be wrong for sure but I would need some evidence to prove otherwise.

I believe it’s about receiving some form of compensation or gifts. It’s pretty restrictive on the part of the ncaa considering they’d be attending camp and just having expenses paid. Funny how they can play in international tournaments and get the same treatment though.

 

[habsprospects]

There, I found it, Joe Stejskal attended the 2009 Rookie camp, having played two NCAA seasons, and playing two more after that. But we didnt participate in a prospects tournament that year.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I believe it’s about receiving some form of compensation or gifts. It’s pretty restrictive on the part of the ncaa considering they’d be attending camp and just having expenses paid. Funny how they can play in international tournaments and get the same treatment though.

It is a thinly veiled attempt to specifically hurt the CHL as they include them among the pro teams due to the fact that they are paid even if it is far less than the amount that the college education that NCAA teams are offering.

He hasn’t signed with any ncaa team, so I’m not sure that makes any sense as to why he wouldn’t play next weekend. Not that I care that much. Just curious.

But if his intentions are to sign then it would matter.

There, I found it, Joe Stejskal attended the 2009 Rookie camp, having played two NCAA seasons, and playing two more after that. But we didnt participate in a prospects tournament that year.

Then this would not be an example as he did not play any games.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is the schedule available? I'd love to catch a stream or two.

 

[Shutdown]

Then this would not be an example as he did not play any games.

Stejskal attended camp but didn't play any games, so it's clearly an example. Dartmouth starts their academic year a little later than most schools and rookie camp must have started a little earlier that year.

prospects games weren't as popular back then - i'm not even sure if the Habs took part in them before the 2010s. i don't know if they're considered rule-breaking games by NCAA standard, like a pre-season game is.

 

[Treb]

He hasn’t signed with any ncaa team, so I’m not sure that makes any sense as to why he wouldn’t play next weekend. Not that I care that much. Just curious.

It's not a contract clause, it's NCAA eligibility.

 

[Treb]

Is the schedule available? I'd love to catch a stream or two.

The games vs the Leafs are Saturday and Sunday (September 14-15th) at 13:00 EST.

 

[Bacchus1]

Stejskal attended camp but didn't play any games, so it's clearly an example. Dartmouth starts their academic year a little later than most schools and rookie camp must have started a little earlier that year.

prospects games weren't as popular back then - i'm not even sure if the Habs took part in them before the 2010s. i don't know if they're considered rule-breaking games by NCAA standard, like a pre-season game is.

I don’t think anyone gets paid to play in pre-season games, so I don’t know why it would be an issue.

 

[Shutdown]

I don’t think anyone gets paid to play in pre-season games, so I don’t know why it would be an issue.

i remember when i was playing, guys would only spend a certain amount of time at Q camps if they wanted to keep their NCAA options open. this was almost 20 years ago so i don't know if eligibility rules have changed.

 

[Mrb1p]

The games vs the Leafs are Saturday and Sunday (September 14-15th) at 13:00 EST.

Oof midnight games. I'll provably skip.

 

[morhilane]

i remember when i was playing, guys would only spend a certain amount of time at Q camps if they wanted to keep their NCAA options open. this was almost 20 years ago so i don't know if eligibility rules have changed.

They haven't changed, but last year I saw an article that was talking about the NCAA looking to make them more loose for CHL players. I don't think the CHL wants them to.

 

[Seb]

It starts tomorrow

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

It starts tomorrow

Can't wait for the official measurements and start THAT discussion again about THAT defenseman

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

It is not a week away from school that’s gonna ruin their academic year….

Missing a week in the calendar when they’re on a full ride won’t fly

 

[Gustave]

Can't wait for the official measurements and start THAT discussion again about THAT defenseman

Is there a pool going around that I don’t know about? I’ll take 5’10” 173lbs.

 

[Hannibal]

I expect Luke Tuch to look really good.

His game is close to NHL Ready. He knows what are his forces and he plays well within them.

 

[Naslundforever]

Can't wait for the official measurements and start THAT discussion again about THAT defenseman

5’2’’ Hutson, or the towering Reinbacher now supposedly 7’3’’ ? I did my own research.

 

[26Mats]

I expect Luke Tuch to look really good.

His game is close to NHL Ready. He knows what are his forces and he plays well within them.

What makes him better than Andreas Martinsen?

 

[Hannibal]

What makes him better than Andreas Martinsen?

Hockey IQ, better shot and way better skills that that plug.

 

[overlords]

Is there a pool going around that I don’t know about? I’ll take 5’10” 173lbs.

Height and weight are very passé, this is a quads forum.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Height and weight are very passé, this is a quads forum.

How much does his legs weigh?

 

[TT1]

it's true that Reinbacher looks way taller now, he looks easily 6'3