2024 Training Camp Thread (Update 10/07: Roster Set)

Tkachuk Norris

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live footage of @Tkachuk Norris right now after seeing Bruiser was cut:

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I actually think Brewski playing in the AHL on the top PP is the right move. I just don’t see the point in signing Barrie when you have a 19 year old defencemen who can fulfill the exact same role as Barrie if Rasmus or Weegar get injured.
 

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I actually think Brewski playing in the AHL on the top PP is the right move. I just don’t see the point in signing Barrie when you have a 19 year old defencemen who can fulfill the exact same role as Barrie if Rasmus or Weegar get injured.
it's from the show big mouth, Andrew saying "rage, rage, f***ing rage"
this is a still from it if you don't watch teh show...
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just wanted to have some fun ribbing you.

It'll be interesting if both Bruiser and Poirier play the PP together
 
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Random question about prospects... but who might be better out of the two of these guys in their full season NHL debut and long term?

Emil Heineman
William Stromgren
 

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Random question about prospects... but who might be better out of the two of these guys in their full season NHL debut and long term?

Emil Heineman
William Stromgren
I'd lean towards Stromgren for 2 reasons. Similar AHL production last year despite being a year younger, and with his added size he can play a bit more physical
 

Ledge And Dairy

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I actually think Brewski playing in the AHL on the top PP is the right move. I just don’t see the point in signing Barrie when you have a 19 year old defencemen who can fulfill the exact same role as Barrie if Rasmus or Weegar get injured.
I can't disagree with this more. Bruz has looked very good in camp no doubt, but it is far better to play him 20 minutes a night in the AHL than 10-13 on the 3rd pair in the NHL. Barrie allows us to keep doing that even if Weegar/Andersson get hurt. He just graduated from the OHL and we are expecting to suck this year. We are much better off playing him with the Wranglers who will probably be quite good.
 

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If we assume that Barrie is getting signed, and the 3 guys waived today are reassigned to the Wranglers when/if they clear, then we'll be down to 27 men, still 4 to cut. Those 4 will likely be Cooley and 3 forwards

I think we are waiting to waive Cooley until the last possible moment with the Bruins grabbing Patera from the Canucks and IMO Cooley is a better goalie.
With Barrie now signed it is very likely that Hanley gets waived over one of the forwards. Absolutely try and sneak him through waivers with everyone else but no reason to hold onto him over like Rooney, especially since we are so deep on dmen and weak at center.
 

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Tinordi, Hanley, Hunt, Rooney, Duehr, Schwindt and one of Honzek/Klapka/Coronato would give us the space to hold Cooley until the first game of regular season, if we wanted teams to commit to 23 before waiving Cooley.
 

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With Barrie now signed it is very likely that Hanley gets waived over one of the forwards. Absolutely try and sneak him through waivers with everyone else but no reason to hold onto him over like Rooney, especially since we are so deep on dmen and weak at center.

With Huska, I dunno. IMO, there's a chance he considers 8 dman and 12 forwards instead and play #3-6 by committee (all in over their heads). In the event of an injury on a road trip for forwards, just start double shifting the kids to see if they can handle stronger comps and higher TOI. It's a great training and showcase moment. At best, the kids develop exponentially. At worst, they all still try hard and we add a higher calibre talent to this group for next season.
 

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Tinordi, Hanley, Hunt, Rooney, Duehr, Schwindt and one of Honzek/Klapka/Coronato would give us the space to hold Cooley until the first game of regular season, if we wanted teams to commit to 23 before waiving Cooley.
I like the sound of starting the season with three goalies on the roster. We have plenty of ways to make that happen with the number of waiver exempt players that we on the roster right now plus a lot of AHL/NHL tweener players that I wouldn't lose sleep over if they were claimed.
I'll go one step further than you... I like the idea of having three goalies on the roster for the first three weeks or so of the season. Normally this is a terrible idea for a competitive team in a normal season. But we aren't and this isn't. Why gamble exposing a player that is beginning to show some promise when we don't have to?
 
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GOALTENDERS
#NAMEAGECONTRACT
/CAP HIT
WAIVERSCAMP STATUS
1Cooley, Devin27$775,000In Camp
32Wolf, Dustin23$850,000ExemptIn Camp
80Vladar, Dan27$2,200,000In Camp

DEFENSEMEN
#NAMEAGECONTRACT
/CAP HIT
WAIVERSCAMP STATUS
4Andersson, Rasmus27$4,550,000In Camp
7Bahl, Kevin24$1,050,000In Camp
8Barrie, Tyson33$1,250,000In Camp
24Bean, Jake26$1,750,000In Camp
44Hanley, Joel33$787,500In Camp
52Weegar, MacKenzie30$6,250,000In Camp
62Miromanov, Daniil27$1,250,000In Camp
94Pachal, Brayden25$775,000In Camp

FORWARDS
#NAMEAGECONTRACT
/CAP HIT
WAIVERSCAMP STATUS
10Huberdeau, Jonathan31$10,500,000In Camp
11Backlund, Mikael35$4,500,000In Camp
17Sharangovich, Yegor26$3,100,000In Camp
20Coleman, Blake32$4,900,000In Camp
21Rooney, Kevin31$1,300,000In Camp
22Pelletier, Jakob23$800,000In Camp
27Coronato, Matt21$925,000ExemptIn Camp
39Mantha, Anthony30$3,500,000In Camp
42Honzek, Samuel19$918,333ExemptIn Camp
43Klapka, Adam24$775,000ExemptIn Camp
47Zary, Connor22$863,333In Camp
70Lomberg, Ryan29$2,000,000In Camp
76Pospisil, Martin24$1,000,000In Camp
79Schwindt, Cole23$800,000In Camp
91Kadri, Nazem33$7,000,000In Camp
96Kuzmenko, Andrei28$5,500,000In Camp

CUT PLAYERS
#NAMEPOSITIONAGECONTRACT
/CAP HIT
CUT
3Grushnikov, Artem21$814,167ExemptCut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
15Hunt, Dryden28$775,000Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
26Tinordi, Jarred32$800,000Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
37Kuznetsov, Yan22$775,000ExemptCut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
40Ignatjew, Waltteri24$870,000ExemptCut 10/01 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
45Morton, Sam25$870,000ExemptCut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
46Aspirot, JonathanDefense25$775,000Cut 09/29 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
48Brzustewicz, Hunter19$950,000ExemptCut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
49​
Basha, AndrewForward
18​
$897,500Cut 09/26 - Assigned to Medicine Hat Tigers
50​
Radomsky, MattGoaltender
25​
AHL ContractCut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
51​
Gridin, MatveiForward
18​
$975,000​
Cut 09/26 - Assigned to Shawinigan Cataractes
55​
Jamieson, EricDefenseman
19​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Everett Silvertips
53​
Laing, HunterForwadr
18​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Prince George Cougars
56​
Mews, HenryDefenseman
18​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Ottawa 67s
57Jurmo, JoniDefenseman22$850,000Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
58Kirkland, Justin28$775,000Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
59​
Morin, EtienneDefenseman
19​
$903,400​
Cut 09/24 - Assigned to Moncton Wildcats
60​
Battaglia, JacobForward
18​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Kingston Frontenacs
61Bishop, ClarkForward28$775,000Cut 09/29 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
63​
Janicke, TrevorForward
23​
AHL ContractCut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
65Stromgren, WilliamForward21$900,833Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
67​
Hurtig, AxelDefenseman
19​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Calgary Hitmen
71Duehr, Walker26$825,000Cut 10/04 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
72Poirier, JeremieDefenseman22$823,333Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
73Lipinski, JadenForward19Unsigned ProspectCut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
74Ciona, LucasForward21$830,000Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
77​
Nikolaev, IlyaForward
23​
$836,667​
Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
78​
Misa, LukeForward
18​
Unsigned ProspectCut 09/24 - Assigned to Brampton Steelheads
81​
Murphy, ConnorGoaltender
26​
AHL ContractCut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
83​
Silye, DavidForwad
25​
AHL ContractCut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
86​
Kerins, RoryForward
22​
$846,667​
Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
87Bell, ParkerForward23$857,500Cut 09/28 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
89​
Parekh, ZayneDefenseman
18​
$975,000​
Cut 09/27 - Assigned to Saginaw Spirit
90​
Gallant, AlexForward
31​
AHL ContractCut 09/27 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
93Frk, Martin30$775,000Cut 10/03 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
95​
McNamara, LukeForward
19​
PTOCut 09/24 - Released from ATO
98Solovyov, Ilya24$775,000Cut 10/02 - Assigned to Calgary Wranglers
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He wasn't. Neither was Aspirot from what I can recall. Make me wonder how they were compliant. Maybe they just took warmup in case a player went down.
Bishop was according to the lines posted for the game, that's why I singled him out
 
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I really don't believe we'll start with 3 goalies. It's good to keep 3 goalies in camp until the end for a multitude of reasons, and Colley if we're honest is not an NHL caliber goaltender.

We will get a lot of clarity tomorrow and Sunday though as IIRC tomorrow is the final day to place players on waivers and rosters have to be set Sunday evening
 

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Episode 2 dropped.

They focused on Basha, Gridin, Parekh . They really bring up Quinn Hughes a lot in high regard, as competition and I think they see his ceiling as Hughes as well. If Parekh can translate his junior numbers to NHL numbers ala Hughes, then Flames have a gem.
For Basha they told him to go back and be the most competitive and hardest working player on his team. I think this guy is going to be a stud for the Flames, he looks solid on the boards which is an underrated skill, Tkachuk was/is a beast on the boards which is why he's so dangerous.

Lots of praise for Honzek.

One more episode to go.
 
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And a great pic from early in the preseason of Klapka and Lomberg
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I really don't believe we'll start with 3 goalies. It's good to keep 3 goalies in camp until the end for a multitude of reasons, and Colley if we're honest is not an NHL caliber goaltender.

We will get a lot of clarity tomorrow and Sunday though as IIRC tomorrow is the final day to place players on waivers and rosters have to be set Sunday evening

I think it's more of the league becoming 3 goalies deep in a lot of ways than Cooley being seen as the/an answer.

There's no way Cooley should be making the roster over the other 2 guys, but if Vladar or Wolf were to get hurt I'd want to have someone like Cooley signed who can play a few games, so we aren't riding the other into the ground.

And looking across the league this off-season a lot of teams tried to become 3 deep in net (have at least a strong ahl starter with nhl experience) and with injuries we're seeing guys claimed (Jiří Patera) who probably wouldn't be at risk in past seasons.

So if we can keep him off the waiver wire a day or two longer than the rest of the league it might be worth it and save us trading a 6th round pick if something were to happen.
 

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I think it's more of the league becoming 3 goalies deep in a lot of ways than Cooley being seen as the/an answer.

There's no way Cooley should be making the roster over the other 2 guys, but if Vladar or Wolf were to get hurt I'd want to have someone like Cooley signed who can play a few games, so we aren't riding the other into the ground.

And looking across the league this off-season a lot of teams tried to become 3 deep in net (have at least a strong ahl starter with nhl experience) and with injuries we're seeing guys claimed (Jiří Patera) who probably wouldn't be at risk in past seasons.

So if we can keep him off the waiver wire a day or two longer than the rest of the league it might be worth it and save us trading a 6th round pick if something were to happen.
Teams want 3 capable goalies, but it's only in extremely rare circumstances teams will keep 3 in the NHL because it depletes practice time from the 2 main goalies.

The Patera claim is extremely unique as he was 4th or 5th on the Canucks depth chart, it's actually likely Boston also waives him and he goes unclaimed (even by the Canucks) and they will be able to assign him to the AHL Bruins.
 

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I was previously mistaken, rosters don't need to be finalized until Monday, so tomorrow will be the big waivers day across the league
 

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In the next 90-minutes or so we should get some more clarity on the opening day roster.

We will 100% for sure know if we're going with 8D, if a defenseman is not waived, then we will be running 8 defensemen to start teh year. However if someone is waived, it doesn't mean we aren't still going with 8, as they don't have to be demoted.

If Cooley is waived, it seems likely we'd be going with 2 goalies, if he's not, we're likely going with 3 but it's not guaranteed since Wolf is waiver exempt.

Up front... things are more fluid here... # of forward slots depends on if we go 2 or 3 goalies, and 7 or 8 defensemen. If both a defenseman and goaltender are waived, it seems likely that they will run 14 forwards (or a 22-man roster)... if no forwards are waived, no more than 1 of Honzek, Klapka or Coronato can make the team. But whether that forward slot is open depends on what the roster makeup will be
 

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There’s a trade Forum thread saying Pelletier will be waived. I dont like that
 

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