Prospect Info: 2024 7th OA : Carter Yakemchuk (RHD)

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He's for sure getting the 9 games. That right side is a talentless void. It can't hurt

 

[Golden_Jet]

He's for sure getting the 9 games. That right side is a talentless void. It can't hurt

I don’t think he gets 9, not sure if gets any, because of waivers for other players, and tight to the cap.

 

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I don’t think he gets 9, not sure if gets any, because of waivers for other players, and tight to the cap.

I think they can figure that out...we'll see I suppose

 

[JD1]

the .35 pts per game threshold is the big thing for forwards, changing the game limit to a higher number really doesn't shave off many if any guys, if you hit .35 pts per game, and hit 100 gp, you are almost certainly going to hit 200 and 300 games too, unless you are Formenton and get yourself exiled. Basically you're getting top 9 forwards, or very good 4th liners.



Dmen are hard to categorize using basic stats that I had readily available with draft data but 300 games means his not just a guy that was given a chance based on pedigree and then flamed out. He might only be a 3rd pair guy, but he's likely a legit NHL player. A guy like Cowen, who got every chance, misses here. Same with Brian Lee. Chris Wideman barely misses (would have made it if not for Malkin...), same with Gryba, meanwhile Boro makes the cut easily.

200 games for a goalie means you were a backup at worst. Emery, Lehner, Elliott. Maybe I should have lowered that one, but goalies are a pretty small minority in the draft.

The stat thresholds were only applied to the 2000-2010 seasons to get an expected % hit rate, they were not and should not be used to categorize guys from more recent drafts who are still early in their career. You could project whether you think a 2020 guy will hit those thresholds, for example, I think Greig will easily hit it, but he hasn't yet. That doesn't mean, nor did I use those thresholds to categorize Greig as a miss (or a hit), it was just to illustrate how many guys we need to hit on when it's all said and done to be meeting expectations.

at the end of the end of the day....look at the roster of a cup winning team and ask how those players were acquired. It's rare that as many as 15 were drafted and developed.

 

[Micklebot]

at the end of the end of the day....look at the roster of a cup winning team and ask how those players were acquired. It's rare that as many as 15 were drafted and developed.

15 is a pretty high number, most teams cup winners or not won't hit that mark. I think our projected lineup has 10 and that's pretty high.

I think Florida had 4, Colorado had 6. Tbay had 10 that played in their last cup run which seems to be the anomaly.

 

[JD1]

15 is a pretty high number, most teams cup winners or not won't hit that mark. I think our projected lineup has 10 and that's pretty high.

I think Florida had 4, Colorado had 6. Tbay had 10 that played in their last cup run which seems to be the anomaly.

that's my point. I think the highest I've seen in recent years was low teens.

we get caught up in drafting. If you are lucky, you draft your core pieces. But there is a lot of roster filler that comes from different places

 

[aragorn]

I hope Yak gets a game or two, although I expect he will most likely be returned to junior at some point. Given his age & birthday after this coming season, I think he will be in Belleville the following season in a possible callup situation.

Once Jensen's contract is up I could see Yak playing with Kleven on the bottom pairing until he earns the trust of the coaches & works his way up the roster if he continues to improve & get stronger. Really like some of these young players Kleven, Ostapchuk, Yakemchuk, Greig, Halliday & even Boucher in a particular role.

While so many have discussed the lack of skill in our prospect pool I have said often the skill is already on the team & now some of the guys that are emerging are the bottom six guys like Ostapchuk who fits into a role nicely. Just like Kleven fits the role they need on defence & Yak will also fit a need helping the team overall be a better team. Halliday is another guy with a strong skillset that has the skillset to improve the bottom six as is Boucher to fill a role that creates turnovers & separates players from the puck at both ends. This young team will have a number of yrs for the org to refill the prospect pool with skill over the next few yrs, it doesn't need to be done with one or two drafts.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I expect he'll get some kind of NHL stint. Whether it's a full 9 games or something less will depend on his play.

Don't think the Sens are in a big hurry to send him back to the Hitmen. They won't be as bad as they were last year, but still probably won't be a contender.

I imagine they were hoping the Hitmen would deal him to a top team, but given they just traded picks to acquire Hvidston, doubt that happens until the deadline, if at all.

 

[Icelevel]

 

[Micklebot]

that's my point. I think the highest I've seen in recent years was low teens.

we get caught up in drafting. If you are lucky, you draft your core pieces. But there is a lot of roster filler that comes from different places

Sure, but good drafting is still important to fill spots, if Florida hadn't drafted Weegar and Huberdeau they don't have a core part of their identity and cup run in Tkachuk, Larsson, who Mackenzie had ahead of Huberdeau, and any of the 5 misses after Weegar weren't cutting it. It was two massive hits at the draft table that allowed them to get a core piece, so teams miss, there are consequences.

 

[DrEasy]

He's for sure getting the 9 games. That right side is a talentless void. It can't hurt

It might not even be by choice but by necessity. Imagine if Zub isn't ready to play by the time season opens.

Injuries have a way of forcing our hands.

 

[Micklebot]

It might not even be by choice but by necessity. Imagine if Zub isn't ready to play by the time season opens.

Injuries have a way of forcing our hands.

Its nice that we have that option,

 

[branch]

It might not even be by choice but by necessity. Imagine if Zub isn't ready to play by the time season opens.

Injuries have a way of forcing our hands.

I don’t think 9 games hurts if he proves he can play. If anything this would just motivate him and make him hungrier.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Can we all agree that Yak's skating is a lot better than what we thought in the rookie tournament? He seems to have refined his decision making a little bit also from the rookie tournament to his first pre-season game. It's nice to see that he is capable of evolving quickly.

 

[Icelevel]

I don’t think 9 games hurts if he proves he can play. If anything this would just motivate him and make him hungrier.

I agree,as the competition gets tougher he’ll really get to see where he needs to get to. Should give him a better idea of what he needs to work on most.
I don’t think it can hurt.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I expect he'll get some kind of NHL stint. Whether it's a full 9 games or something less will depend on his play.

Don't think the Sens are in a big hurry to send him back to the Hitmen. They won't be as bad as they were last year, but still probably won't be a contender.

I imagine they were hoping the Hitmen would deal him to a top team, but given they just traded picks to acquire Hvidston, doubt that happens until the deadline, if at all.

So...what is happening with Calgary? Why are they trying to acquire players (especially a 20 year old) at a time where they have no chance to contend?

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

If Zub is hurt, and Yak is helping them win, they don't have to cap it at 9 games. They can go all the way to 39.

Depending on how you view his development trajectory, burning the first year of the ELC might be a positive because it means they can cost control him 1 year earlier, assuming he is open to a long-term deal.

 

[Melgene Eunyk]

His hockey IQ is the most promising development, for me. I knew from the highlight packs that he has skill in droves. It was also clear he possesses size and the tools to be competent defensively.

But watching him the other night? He looked a cool as a cucumber. And I believe a big part of that is how comfortable he was in reading the play. Even in pre-season, its a big step up from junior. The smartest players often feed off structure and other intelligent players.

That said, it's only one game. But it has me extremely bullish on his potential. If he can develop the strength to improve his stride, and continue to work on his foot speed, we could have a phenomenal player here.

 

[PlayersLtd]

Don't think the Sens are in a big hurry to send him back to the Hitmen. They won't be as bad as they were last year, but still probably won't be a contender.

I imagine they were hoping the Hitmen would deal him to a top team, but given they just traded picks to acquire Hvidston, doubt that happens until the deadline, if at all.

I highly doubt it. The Calgary Hitmen have one of the best programs in the WHL including a new coach who has tons of NHL experience in MacFarland. In terms of facilities and resources it is a great situation. That stuff is more important than simply being on a competitive team. Best situation is he benefits from the resources the Hitmen have and is traded late season for a run.

 

[albator71]

Which they took alot of the risk out of it when you look at the player overall. Plays the most valuable position, has tremendous size, had amazing production, plays a physical game. Those basis points are why he was never going to slide too far when other guys have risks. He checks all the boxes.

I concur; he meets all our requirements, and the best aspect is that he's not one-dimensional—he excels at both ends of the ice.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

I concur; he meets all our requirements, and the best aspect is that he's not one-dimensional—he excels at both ends of the ice.

He really doesn't excel at defense. Just being big and getting PIMs doesn't make you good at D. And that's fine. I'd rather have an offensive player and teach them defense because you can't realistically take a defense only player and make them have offensive gifts.

Yak still has a waaaaays to go before he can be considered good defensively.

 

[Micklebot]

Pretty good breakdown of the highs and lows of his preseason game, lots to like in there.

Looking forward to seeing him in a few more games.

 

[bert]

He really doesn't excel at defense. Just being big and getting PIMs doesn't make you good at D. And that's fine. I'd rather have an offensive player and teach them defense because you can't realistically take a defense only player and make them have offensive gifts.

Yak still has a waaaaays to go before he can be considered good defensively.

No kidding he's an 18 year old offensive dynamo.... Not sure what people expect. He has the tools to be very strong defensively though. He's big, he isn't shy physically, he has a great stick and has terrific hockey sense.

As we all know he's very raw, his first step and pivot have a ways to go but he's also a late bloomer physically. If he has the work ethic this will improve. He needs to be coached for sure hence why he shouldn't stay up here for the full season under any circumstance. Lots of reps are needed.

Yakemchuks package is very unique but if he wants to be an elite all situations d man he Wil have to prove he can be a mature person. He has to be coach able and he has to put in the work. Hopefully he is! But only time will tell.

 

[Icelevel]

So this is why the scouts haven’t been fired yet.

 

[Golden_Jet]

He really doesn't excel at defense. Just being big and getting PIMs doesn't make you good at D. And that's fine. I'd rather have an offensive player and teach them defense because you can't realistically take a defense only player and make them have offensive gifts.

Yak still has a waaaaays to go before he can be considered good defensively.

Patience, he just got drafted lol, he’s doing fine for a fresh draft pick.
You don’t think he can be offensive either.