Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

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True . . . but she killed it. The pauses were brilliant. And I hate her music but she was great. If they weren’t drafting Dems, would they have still used her?
Better way to look at it isn’t that she was picked because we were taking Demidov- Demidov was made available to us because we invited the patron saint of our nation to announce the pick, and so the gods had no choice but to gift him to us.
 

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So, what would be Demidov's former Hockeysfuture grade?

I'd say: 9.0B

"The number means their potential, how good they might be. 10 = once in a decade player. 9 = franchise 8 = 1st liner etc. The Letter is the likelyhood of them reacing their potential. A = Almost a certainty B = Likely Etc."

"Sidney Crosby is a 10.0 C, Ovechkin a 9.0 A and Malkin a 9.0 B"
 

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So, what would be Demidov's former Hockeysfuture grade?

I'd say: 9.0B

"The number means their potential, how good they might be. 10 = once in a decade player. 9 = franchise 8 = 1st liner etc. The Letter is the likelyhood of them reacing their potential. A = Almost a certainty B = Likely Etc."

"Sidney Crosby is a 10.0 C, Ovechkin a 9.0 A and Malkin a 9.0 B"

8.5B
 

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So, what would be Demidov's former Hockeysfuture grade?

I'd say: 9.0B

"The number means their potential, how good they might be. 10 = once in a decade player. 9 = franchise 8 = 1st liner etc. The Letter is the likelyhood of them reacing their potential. A = Almost a certainty B = Likely Etc."

"Sidney Crosby is a 10.0 C, Ovechkin a 9.0 A and Malkin a 9.0 B"
9.0 A. High likelyhood of reaching his potential. More than Malkin just after the draft. Malkin had question marks, he had to play some time in the RSL before he became an A.
As for Ovechkin, he's on a tightrope between 9.0 and 10.0.
 
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Leaving this here as it deals with my favourite part of demidov’s game, his skating style. I can’t wait to see it game after game. It explains why demidov is the first prospect to perfect the “Mohawk” skating style and why:

“if it all works out, he can push whatever team he plays for down a path that may just change the game forever.”
 

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So, what would be Demidov's former Hockeysfuture grade?

I'd say: 9.0B

"The number means their potential, how good they might be. 10 = once in a decade player. 9 = franchise 8 = 1st liner etc. The Letter is the likelyhood of them reacing their potential. A = Almost a certainty B = Likely Etc."

"Sidney Crosby is a 10.0 C, Ovechkin a 9.0 A and Malkin a 9.0 B"

I really miss that hockeysfuture grade. But DobberProspect put fantasy and NHL grade also, not bad at all.

I would put Demidov 9,0 B.

I speak about my love about the draft and not just because I'm a Habs fan, Demidov is such a amazing player. His hockey IQ are unreal. Every league he will play, he will be a amazing hockey player no matter what. His hockey IQ, hands, passing ability are these best assets.

I'm in shock to have that type of talent with Habs.
 
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Malkin was the best prospect I had ever seen (I wasn't in the habit of watching prospects play in the 1990s).

Comparing Demidov to him is a high bar.

His Lemieux-esque profile would have put him easily 1st overall in 2024 in my book.
 

Kennerback

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Malkin was the best prospect I had ever seen (I wasn't in the habit of watching prospects play in the 1990s).
In my case I don't mean that Demidov is better than Malkin at this point in time, I'm even far from convinced that his upside is quite as high as Malkin's. It's just that I'm more confident that Demidov really is who he seems to be.

As for Malkin, I didn't see him in the RSL but I remember that it's really mid-season in D+2 while still playing in Russia that the hockey world became sure he would be a top player in the NHL. I feel that way already about Demidov.
 

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True . . . but she killed it. The pauses were brilliant. And I hate her music but she was great. If they weren’t drafting Dems, would they have still used her?

She is very ill and the pauses were very poorly timed and awkward but I believe that was a result of her illness and her fighting through the pain and I thought it was a very sweet moment that maybe many people did not understand.

I am not a fan of her music but I really felt for her up there trying her best to maintain her dignity.
 

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I can't wait to see Slaf/Suzuki/Demidov in action, they're gonna be so good together. You could run Caufield/Newhook/Dach together on the 2nd line or Caufield/Dach/Roy.

It's tracking to have 3 very good lines. Lots of options to tinker with. We basically got 5 guys that can play center (behind Suzuki/Dach) with Newhook, Beck, Hage, Kapanen, Koivu. A few of them are moving to wing in the bottom 6 but we should have a very good 3rd and 4th line too.

Roy / Suzuki / Demidov
Caufield / Dach / Slaf
Newhook / Beck / Hage

It's usually best to spread the offence among multiple lines.

Yup, I suspect we will spread out into 3 lines we roll with a good 4th. Stack up the two PP's. That's what most teams are doing these days and it's effective.

I’m hoping Roy joins that group.

The potential is there. With good centers and a deep roster, Roy can shine. He's a good one to have in the mix. Big season for him this year.
 
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I really miss that hockeysfuture grade. But DobberProspect put fantasy and NHL grade also, not bad at all.

I would put Demidov 9,0 B.

I speak about my love about the draft and not just because I'm a Habs fan, Demidov is such a amazing player. His hockey IQ are unreal. Every league he will play, he will be a amazing hockey player no matter what. His hockey IQ, hands, passing ability are these best assets.

I'm in shock to have that type of talent with Habs.

Who was the last Russian star to be drafted top 10?
* Kaprizov is the latest but he was a 5th round hit. What a steal by the Wild.
* Svechnikov drafted 2nd OA in 2018
* Kind of crazy that none of Kucherov, Panarin, Kaprizov were top 10 picks or even 1st rounders.

Russia was due for another star. Michkov and Demidov might be both stars. Seems like Demidov has an edge over Michkov. We will see how that plays out.
 

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Who was the last Russian star to be drafted top 10?
* Kaprizov is the latest but he was a 5th round hit. What a steal by the Wild.
* Svechnikov drafted 2nd OA in 2018
* Kind of crazy that none of Kucherov, Panarin, Kaprizov were top 10 picks or even 1st rounders.

Russia was due for another star. Michkov and Demidov might be both stars. Seems like Demidov has an edge over Michkov. We will see how that plays out.
And Svechnikov was drafted out of the OHL...
Panarin was undrafted, came over when he was 24.

As for your question, the last were Ovi/Malkin.
 
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HomaridII

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Better way to look at it isn’t that she was picked because we were taking Demidov- Demidov was made available to us because we invited the patron saint of our nation to announce the pick, and so the gods had no choice but to gift him to us.
lol so true.

As Jack Todd said, you don't bring out Celine Dion to announce you are picking Carter Yakenchuk, lol. Only the Demigod would have been appropriate.
 

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Better way to look at it isn’t that she was picked because we were taking Demidov- Demidov was made available to us because we invited the patron saint of our nation to announce the pick, and so the gods had no choice but to gift him to us.
Obviously I was nervous just before she announced the pick, but then I was thinking “there’s no way they will get her to try and read the name Zeev Buium and have another Carey Price/David moment”
 

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Leaving this here as it deals with my favourite part of demidov’s game, his skating style. I can’t wait to see it game after game. It explains why demidov is the first prospect to perfect the “Mohawk” skating style and why:

“if it all works out, he can push whatever team he plays for down a path that may just change the game forever.”
Thanks for the link it was a great read. His skating is also why i like Demidov so much.
 

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This has probably already been mentioned, but when Kucherov was drafted in 2011 (in the 2nd round), he played in the MHL and put up 58 pts (27G, 31A) in 41 GP while also putting up 13 pts (5G, 8A) in 10 playoff games. Right now, he is the top scorer of his draft class and in a redraft, he'd go 1st or at least Top-3.

In his draft year, Demidov played in the MHL and put up 60 pts (23G, 37A) in 30 GP while also putting up 28 pts (11G, 17A) in 17 GP.

In his D+1 season, Kucherov split his time between MHL and KHL.
 

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This has probably already been mentioned, but when Kucherov was drafted in 2011 (in the 2nd round), he played in the MHL and put up 58 pts (27G, 31A) in 41 GP while also putting up 13 pts (5G, 8A) in 10 playoff games. Right now, he is the top scorer of his draft class and in a redraft, he'd go 1st or at least Top-3.

In his draft year, Demidov played in the MHL and put up 60 pts (23G, 37A) in 30 GP while also putting up 28 pts (11G, 17A) in 17 GP.

In his D+1 season, Kucherov split his time between MHL and KHL.

Imagine the freak out on here when Demidov spends his D+2 in the Q
 

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It's tracking to have 3 very good lines. Lots of options to tinker with. We basically got 5 guys that can play center (behind Suzuki/Dach) with Newhook, Beck, Hage, Kapanen, Koivu. A few of them are moving to wing in the bottom 6 but we should have a very good 3rd and 4th line too.

Roy / Suzuki / Demidov
Caufield / Dach / Slaf
Newhook / Beck / Hage
Can't say I disagree with this top 9. Roy is still a bit of a question mark for me, but this would be amazing if he did.

I can't see who out of this we might trade, but I have been thinking lately, how many teams are built solely on players they drafted and/or developed?
 

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