Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[JIMVINNY]

My belief right now is that SKA will make sure he doesn’t leave with any KHL record of any kind. SKA can cook his stats the way they want.

Agreed. They'll play him 6-8 minutes a game with scrubs to make sure he can't actually produce, which will neither seriously hurt or help the team, but their treatment of him will serve as a very powerful threat to the other young players in the SKA system; Play ball, or we'll make sure you're miserable.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Hopefully Rotenberg isn't the coach of that team

 

[1909]

Dude had 1 assist in his last 10 games? Ishh

Put yourself at his place. The guy has no ice time, no PP, plays on a bottom line with scrubs. And on top of that, has to deal with a coach that hates him.

 

[Habs]

Put yourself at his place. The guy has no ice time, no PP, plays on a bottom line with scrubs. And on top of that, has to deal with a coach that hates him.

He's the Russian Pezzetta!!!!!!!

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I don't blame the KHL teams too much for doing what they do

Imagine if we knew Slafkovsky was leaving after this season to go play in another league and we were going to lose him for nothing. I wouldn't care too much about his development from that point onwards, and I would prioritize developing players that are going to stay long term.

Hopefully we see his ice time increase in the KHL playoffs when SKA actually cares about icing the best lineup, they are a lock for the playoffs regardless of what they do with Demidov during the regular season.

 

[Kennerback]

Maybe someone can help because I just broke chatGPT with this question…
Name a healthy NHL skater, that’s not an enforcer or in a pending transaction that played 0:00 TOI?
I’m sure it happens it’s just a really hard stat to come by.

 

[Paddyjack]

Your question broke my brain too

I think you meant an nhl player dressed but with TOI 0:00?

 

[Kennerback]

Your question broke my brain too

I think you meant an nhl player dressed but with TOI 0:00?

Yes. He needs to be on the game’s official lineup. Basically he sits on the bench instead of in the stands. And it officially counts as a game played.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I don't blame the KHL teams too much for doing what they do

Imagine if we knew Slafkovsky was leaving after this season to go play in another league and we were going to lose him for nothing. I wouldn't care too much about his development from that point onwards, and I would prioritize developing players that are going to stay long term.

Hopefully we see his ice time increase in the KHL playoffs when SKA actually cares about icing the best lineup, they are a lock for the playoffs regardless of what they do with Demidov during the regular season.

It's not even about development. Demidov would be one of the best forwards in the KHL if given top 6 ice time. SKA is a better team with Demidov in the top 6 than with Demidov in the bottom 6. It would be like the habs giving 4th line minutes to Laine next season because he refuses to sign an extension.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Don't worry Demidov, we have Laine and Hutson who will play with you next year !!

 

[Scriptor]

Don't worry Demidov, we have Laine and Hutson who will play with you next year !!

Actually, there's a serious issue here. You need players with the computer interface to understand what players like Hutson and Demidov can create in order to benefit from all that can happen when they are out on the ice.

IMO, Montreal is not all that badly off with Hutson, Demidov, Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Laine who can all process the game at a pretty high level.

At full confidence, so can Dach. Roy, unassumingly, is another such player.

Adding yet another such player at the 2025 draft will start making things all that more interesting for the top-9, never mind the top-6.

 

[KevSkillz4]

Actually, there's a serious issue here. You need players with the computer interface to understand what players like Hutson and Demidov can create in order to benefit from all that can happen when they are out on the ice.

IMO, Montreal is not all that badly off with Hutson, Demidov, Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Laine who can all process the game at a pretty high level.

At full confidence, so can Dach. Roy, unassumingly, is another such player.

Adding yet another such player at the 2025 draft will start making things all that more interesting for the top-9, never mind the top-6.

I have high hope for Michael Hage, I think he can be in the same level of Suzuki and Caufield. He have amazing skillset and great attitude. With his father lost and huge MTL fan, he will give everything on ice for that!

 

[tazsub3]

Maybe someone can help because I just broke chatGPT with this question…
Name a healthy NHL skater, that’s not an enforcer or in a pending transaction that played 0:00 TOI?
I’m sure it happens it’s just a really hard stat to come by.

In nhl he won’t dress

 

[Zine]

Maybe someone can help because I just broke chatGPT with this question…
Name a healthy NHL skater, that’s not an enforcer or in a pending transaction that played 0:00 TOI?
I’m sure it happens it’s just a really hard stat to come by.

The KHL has a 'designated junior' rule where teams are allowed (optional) to dress two extra junior players on top of the normal roster.

So KHL teams can dress 22 players/game, as opposed to the NHL's 20. This is why you frequently see players with or near 0:00 TOI.

 

[Zine]

My belief right now is that SKA will make sure he doesn’t leave with any KHL record of any kind. SKA can cook his stats the way they want.

Agreed. They'll play him 6-8 minutes a game with scrubs to make sure he can't actually produce, which will neither seriously hurt or help the team, but their treatment of him will serve as a very powerful threat to the other young players in the SKA system; Play ball, or we'll make sure you're miserable.

What makes Demidov so special? It's not like he's alone in receiving questionable usage.
Tolchinsky, last season's leading scorer (for forwards) is getting even less TOI than Demidov thus far. It's batshit insane.

Of course Demidov refusing to extend with SKA plays a part in his treatment, but not totally.
If Rotenberg's #1 objective is to punish Demidov, on no planet would he be chosen for the National Team.


Rotenberg is just an overcompensating clown. Trying to analyze his decisions will get you banging your head against a wall in no time..

 

[teamfirst]

Dude had 1 assist in his last 10 games? Ishh

Ya, and he got it from the bench apparently

 

[Shred]

My belief right now is that SKA will make sure he doesn’t leave with any KHL record of any kind. SKA can cook his stats the way they want.

Yeah the agenda is the worse his KHL stats look, the easier it is to claim that the KHL is a strong league when he goes to the NHL and has superstar numbers.