Pompeius Magnus
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Yet another great rush and setup from Demidov that his teamate just can't handle. Came after an excellent effort in the defensive zone too.
Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)
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HabbyGuy
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This.
His development is of utmost importance, and not to be messed with due to other agendas. This is a huge year for Ivan's growth.
What makes us entitled? We are fans who want our guy over sooner rather than later.
Pompeius Magnus
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Demidov with an assist on the go ahead goal, with a little under 9 minutes to go ! A player tipped his shot in front of the goalie.
He's obviously laying it on thick, but probably isn't too far from the truth.
There's really no point for Demidov to leave the KHL to go play in the AHL from their perspective.
Zine
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'Entitlement' meaning fans thinking they have exclusive ownership to a player.,,,and anything other than "get him to "Montreal ASAP!" is treated as something nefarious or shady. It's ridiculous.
I'm hardly a fan of RoRo, but what he's doing is normal. Every GM tries to get their best players to stay, especially young ones.
le_sean
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But we don’t claim ownership. He himself has the right to play out his current contract and go elsewhere without having someone trying to scare him otherwise.
There’s zero shot he would play in the AHL. I don’t even know why he brought it up.
I don't know if there's zero chance but regardless, i'm sure they'd love to keep him, so whatever PR stunt they can pull between now and then, i'm sure they'll use.
No biggie.
Zine
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Higher level hockey is a multi-million dollar business. Leagues, teams, agents are always trying to influence players. It's typical.
That you feel the need to use the word "scare" just proves my point. Like someone said, Rotenberg is laying it on a bit thick, but what he's telling Demidov is no different than what tons of players hear all the time..... and probably worse behind closed doors. I mean I can only imagine the NCAA recruiting process.
"This league is great! That league sucks!" You should do this! You're developminet will stall there!"
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le_sean
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A bit thick? Who was the last star player in the AHL to have his limbs broken on purpose?
Do you hear/read the kinds of things NA's say about the KHL?
it's really no different.
le_sean
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In what context though? Quality of the league? I’m not sure what we are referring to here. The only thing I see that is said is preferential treatment for certain players which seems to be true.
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Entitled here speaking. He’s awesome! I’m very selfish. I want to see NOW in Montreal!
Zine
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Don't translate it literally. It's a figure of speech to emphasis the AHL is unnecessary physical.
Everything!
Fans and members of the media, regularly trash the KHL and the quality of its teams or how the KHL operates as a whole.
Kennerback
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KHL players and hockey are high quality but the league organization has a dubious reputation. It comes partly from the fact the profit structure is different. A big chunk of financing comes from third party sponsorship. And then there’s stories of players being paid with a wad of cash out of the owner’s pockets.
Zine
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His development won't be messed with, just like Michkov's wasn't. Rotenberg can be a dick, but he won't screw up Demidov's development. Demidov will get his minutes albeit KHL somewhere or VHL.
HabbyGuy
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Michkov was able to play in the KHL which was better for his development because they loaned him to another team. (something they can't do with Ivan) Demidov playing in the VHL is not ideal or the same at all.
Yeah, I'm not really too worried about it. He'll be fine, wherever he ends up playing this season.
Kennerback
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Russian players in NA have thrashed Rottenberg. So it’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not. SKA’s best interest is not always Habs best interest.
There are a lot of Habs fans that see how SKA has treated young players in the past, and are rightly concerned. Rotenberg has demonstrated that he's unwilling to give players like Demidov the chance to play top line minutes, even if they've more than shown that they deserve it.
HabbyGuy
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As long as he's getting plenty of minutes in the KHL sure. VHL to me is not ideal. I'd rather he got traded than go to the VHL.
Zine
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The VHL is fine. As long as he's playing against men.
I don't think he's quite NHL ready just yet. As such, if he was born in Quebec he's be sent to the CHL, which isn't as good as the VHL. Nobody would think twice about that.
HabbyGuy
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He's may not be NHL ready, but he's KHL ready. That's the point. He's also AHL ready over the CHL. If born in Quebec if not ready for Montreal he'd be in Laval.
To be honest I'm not even sure the habs wouldn't keep him up like they did Slaf, who knows. Either way he'd be wasted in the CHL in my opinion.
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