Prospect Info: 2024 2nd Overall - Artyom Levshunov

[CallMeShaft]

I'll predict this is the defense against the Avs

Vlasic Crevier
Edmonton Murphy
Martinez Levshunov

Martinez just makes too much sense being paired with Lev. He's a 3 time cup champ and NHL veteran who has played with a former 2nd overall RHD before. Plus, that pair can get some pretty easy minutes behind the others.

 

[Section88]

Well that settles it then. Fire Davidson.

I don't know how you got that from what I said.

 

[EmeticDonut]

I don't know how you got that from what I said.

joke /jōk/

noun​

1. Something said or done to evoke laughter or amusement, especially an amusing story with a punch line.
2. A mischievous trick; a prank.
   "played a joke on his roommate."
3. Something that is of ludicrously poor quality.
   "Their delivery service is a joke."
4. Something not to be taken seriously; a triviality.
   "The accident was no joke."
5. An object of amusement or laughter; a laughingstock.
   "His loud tie was the joke of the office."

intransitive verb​

1. To tell or play jokes; jest.
2. To speak in fun; be facetious.
   "You have to be joking."
3. To say or write as a joke.

 

[OldScool]

Interesting tidbit..I have a buddy that played/coached/scouted at a high level and is a season ticket holder in Rockford. I asked him about Levshunov and he said "he is a goalies nightmare"...I replied that I didn't know he was that impressive offensively and he says "No, he is your own teams goalie nightmare...turns pucks over...not physical...out of position...no clue what he is doing out there...massive defensive liability....not close to being ready for NHL."

Take that for what its worth.

 

[LavalPhantom]

Interesting tidbit..I have a buddy that played/coached/scouted at a high level and is a season ticket holder in Rockford. I asked him about Levshunov and he said "he is a goalies nightmare"...I replied that I didn't know he was that impressive offensively and he says "No, he is your own teams goalie nightmare...turns pucks over...not physical...out of position...no clue what he is doing out there...massive defensive liability....not close to being ready for NHL."

Take that for what its worth.

I’m sure he will have a lot of detractors. His bad plays will be egregious, and whoever doesn’t evaluate him as a total package but focuses on single mistakes instead will have a lot to chew on. I can already picture a few of the negative nellies from here doing that.

I really hope he’s going to turn much better than Seth Jones, but I can see him becoming some kind of scapegoat too because the nature of his mistakes will make him an easy target.

 

[Styles]

I don't know how you got that from what I said.

Opinions that differ from management are strictly prohibited.

 

[OldScool]

I’m sure he will have a lot of detractors. His bad plays will be egregious, and whoever doesn’t evaluate him as a total package but focuses on single mistakes instead will have a lot to chew on. I can already picture a few of the negative nellies from here doing that.

I really hope he’s going to turn much better than Seth Jones, but I can see him becoming some kind of scapegoat too because the nature of his mistakes will make him an easy target.

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

 

[GIADF]

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

I feel like everything I read about him compliments his skating and ability to get shots through. I haven’t watched him really at all myself, though.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Thought he would have to wait until end of year for a game or two

Hopefully he thrives with chance and never goes back to Rockford

But my realistic expectation is a few games as a reward for his recent play in Rockford giving him NHL taste

I don't think they'll exceed the 9 games so that his ELC can slide

 

[LavalPhantom]

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

I have only seen highlights, so I can’t make my own judgement. But I hope he becomes a stud too, and most reports seem to indicate that he is on his way to becoming one, so I remain optimistic.

 

[Styles]

I don't think they'll exceed the 9 games so that his ELC can slide

For rebuilding teams I think it's better to burn a year. You take care of your player by getting them more money earlier and you likely get them at a lower cap hit going forward if they sign a long term deal. Especially for players you drafted 2nd overall. We could get him signed long term as early as next summer.

 

[bwanajamba]

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

He certainly suffers from occasional gaffes and inconsistent effort (though has improved greatly at both throughout the year), but if you are truly watching and don't see the elite tools it's pretty tough to trust your evaluation

 

[ColbyChaos]

Interesting tidbit..I have a buddy that played/coached/scouted at a high level and is a season ticket holder in Rockford. I asked him about Levshunov and he said "he is a goalies nightmare"...I replied that I didn't know he was that impressive offensively and he says "No, he is your own teams goalie nightmare...turns pucks over...not physical...out of position...no clue what he is doing out there...massive defensive liability....not close to being ready for NHL."

Take that for what its worth.

“He is our goalies worst nightmare”

He certainly suffers from occasional gaffes and inconsistent effort (though has improved greatly at both throughout the year), but if you are truly watching and don't see the elite tools it's pretty tough to trust your evaluation

Don’t worry he is basing a lot of his thoughts off of his scout friend’s opinion who’s credibility or expertise could not be verified in any meaningful way he could be good be a good scout or he could be Musto

 

[Hawkaholic]

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

lol, maybe you should adjust your eyes.

 

[OldScool]

He certainly suffers from occasional gaffes and inconsistent effort (though has improved greatly at both throughout the year), but if you are truly watching and don't see the elite tools it's pretty tough to trust your evaluation

I guess we have different levels of expectactions for a #2 overall pick. I saw Cale Makar play and he jumped off the page with his skillset. Makar went #4 overall. Makar stood out and looked dominant. I dont see any of those flashes from Lev at this point.

 

[Taze em]

If you can't see the skating at the very least, what are we watching? Go back a page or two and look at some video I posted. The goalie's worst nightmare, I'll accept but shot and skating are absolutely non-negotiable obvious assets. He's a goalies worst nightmare in the sense that he isn't where he's supposed to be sometimes.

 

[Crow]

I hope he becomes a stud. However, right now it in his development path I don't see it. I don't see elite level skating, shot, decision making, etc. I wish I did. It's really early his development and things can obviously improve but I just don't see a superstar in the making. I see a bottom at best Dman.

If you don’t see elite level skating you’re lost.

 

[OldScool]

If you don’t see elite level skating you’re lost.

I guess we have differing opinions on what is elite skating. Can he skate - yes. Is it above average - probably. Is it elite - no.

His shot is neither hard nor accurate. Does he take a lot of shots - yes. Many of his shots are just weak writers through traffic. I don't recall ever seeing him take a one timer or snapshot. He has taken 137 shots on net with 5 goals. A 3.6% shooting percentage isn't good. Cale Makers shooting percentage in the NHL is 10.3% for his career for reference.

 

[GIADF]

I guess we have differing opinions on what is elite skating. Can he skate - yes. Is it above average - probably. Is it elite - no.

His shot is neither hard nor accurate. Does he take a lot of shots - yes. Many of his shots are just weak writers through traffic. I don't recall ever seeing him take a one timer or snapshot. He has taken 137 shots on net with 5 goals. A 3.6% shooting percentage isn't good. Cale Makers shooting percentage in the NHL is 10.3% for his career for reference.

Curious how many or which defenseman would you consider to be elite skaters?

 

[WarriorofTime]

Cale Makar is the best defenseman in the world. What are we doing here.

Levshunov 11 points, +3 in last 14 games.

He's been playing great, big part of Rockford's hot streak where he's playing top minutes, all situations. Youngest Defenseman in the AHL and 2nd youngest player overall. It's a bit of an odd time to plant your flag that Levshunov is bust imo.

 

[Crow]

I guess we have differing opinions on what is elite skating. Can he skate - yes. Is it above average - probably. Is it elite - no.

His shot is neither hard nor accurate. Does he take a lot of shots - yes. Many of his shots are just weak writers through traffic. I don't recall ever seeing him take a one timer or snapshot. He has taken 137 shots on net with 5 goals. A 3.6% shooting percentage isn't good. Cale Makers shooting percentage in the NHL is 10.3% for his career for reference.

His skating is incredible. I don’t what you are watching or possibly not watching.

I don’t know why you spent 3/4 of your response talking about his shot.

 

[OldScool]

Cale Makar is the best defenseman in the world. What are we doing here.

Levshunov 11 points, +3 in last 14 games.

He's been playing great, big part of Rockford's hot streak where he's playing top minutes, all situations. Youngest Defenseman in the AHL and 2nd youngest player overall. It's a bit of an odd time to plant your flag that Levshunov is bust imo.

At zero point did I say he is a bust. I have clearly said at this point in his development for a #2 pick overall I would expect more elite skills to emerge. I haven't see that at all. Has he improved from the beginning of the year - absolutely but that's still doesn't make him a can't miss player. If we are being honest he probably wouldn't be getting top minutes if he wasn't the #2 pick overall.

I expect the #2 player taken overall to have elite ability. Not seeing it yet.

 

[CallMeShaft]

At zero point did I say he is a bust. I have clearly said at this point in his development for a #2 pick overall I would expect more elite skills to emerge. I haven't see that at all. Has he improved from the beginning of the year - absolutely but that's still doesn't make him a can't miss player. If we are being honest he probably wouldn't be getting top minutes if he wasn't the #2 pick overall.

He sits 3rd in the entire AHL for shots on goal, despite being the youngest defender in the league and second youngest player overall. I would say getting shots through is a very real, but underappreciated, elite skill.

 

[OldScool]

He sits 3rd in the entire AHL for shots on goal, despite being the youngest defender in the league and second youngest player overall. I would say getting shots through is a very real, but underappreciated, elite skill.

You could make a case for getting shots off and through. My point is you look at Bedard and you see an elite shot, elite hands, etc. I don't see anything that jumps off at me regarding Lev. In fact I have some massive red flags regarding his effort (which has improved). I was expecting a Jake Sanderson comparable and just not seeing that yet.

 

[ColbyChaos]

I guess we have different levels of expectactions for a #2 overall pick. I saw Cale Makar play and he jumped off the page with his skillset. Makar went #4 overall. Makar stood out and looked dominant. I dont see any of those flashes from Lev at this point.

So Dmen either have to be Makar or they are full of question marks lmao ok