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2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread



Have no clue what's exactly going on in Buffalo under Adams, but Alex Tuch is exactly the type of player I'd love to see in our top six to round out the mix.

I agree that Tuch likely has Winnipeg on a No Trade list, but there's an awful lot of young defensemen there that are intriguing. Getting them out of the dumpster fire of an organization that is Buffalo could really help some of them provided they aren't a part of the issue in the room. It wouldn't surprise me if Dahlin leaves and is in the running for Norris somewhere else. Power is big, young, mobile and would make any team better. I'm less confident Winnipeg would be on a no trade for some of these non-Americans as they might just want out of that situation.

Toews is an absolute no-brainer to me. He's so driven and competitive, the only way he comes back is if he can make a difference. I'd love to see it happen. I'm not sure he has a number of years left, but I'd guess he has a solid 2-3 and has all of the intangibles you'd want around the team. Would also be a cool story for the organization.
 
First of all. The Kyle beach thing was disgusting.

Also disgusting. Casually implying Jonathan Toews had any responsibility or culpability in it. There are big assumptions and judgements made in this post.

Was he complicit? - huge assumption.

You are willing to cut him some slack because he was young, and because of the culture of silence? Cut him slack for what? How big of you.

What the heck even is this post.
There were reports of guys openly making fun of Beach in practice. I believe Sopel referenced that everybody knew.

Not sure any of this is scientifically proven... but his post is pretty reasonable
 
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I agree that Tuch likely has Winnipeg on a No Trade list, but there's an awful lot of young defensemen there that are intriguing. Getting them out of the dumpster fire of an organization that is Buffalo could really help some of them provided they aren't a part of the issue in the room. It wouldn't surprise me if Dahlin leaves and is in the running for Norris somewhere else. Power is big, young, mobile and would make any team better. I'm less confident Winnipeg would be on a no trade for some of these non-Americans as they might just want out of that situation.

Toews is an absolute no-brainer to me. He's so driven and competitive, the only way he comes back is if he can make a difference. I'd love to see it happen. I'm not sure he has a number of years left, but I'd guess he has a solid 2-3 and has all of the intangibles you'd want around the team. Would also be a cool story for the organization.


I would race to get my hands on Owen Power!
 
If we can get Toews on a decent AAV he is definitely worth a shot for a season. Start him on line 2/3 and see what he's got. With Lowry out for awhile to start it kind of works out. If he's rejuvenated we have a 2C for cheap and if he not then there wasn't much of a cost to have him.
 
It will be interesting to see how many teams are going to kick the tires on Toews, I don't think that him bring from Winnipeg will be the deciding factor but rather wanting to go to a contending team and that's something the Jets can offer . From the Jets point of view I think they would love to have a 3 time SC champion who just happens to be from here on the roster especially if even at his age he still has juice left in him.
 
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Have no clue what's exactly going on in Buffalo under Adams, but Alex Tuch is exactly the type of player I'd love to see in our top six to round out the mix.

Buffalo is the cautionary tale of the never ending rebuild. 15 years in it looks like they will be selling off yet again and starting over from the beginning. This is with multiple 1st overall picks and many top 10 picks.
 
Toews was struggling with long COVID the last 2 years he played, who knows maybe the time off he's had to reset and recover will actually allow him to get back to a decent level. Most 37yos have so much wear and tear built up at that point but he's going to be as fresh as possible and it's not like he was forced into retirement because of a skill issue

2C seems like a pipe dream to me BUT would it really be asking too much for him to get to a similar level as Namestnikov?
 
Toews should not be penciled in as the 2nd line C. With a guy who has gone as long as he has without gametime at his age, if signed he is a 4th line C, atleast until he shows otherwise.
He if can't make the 2C spot ... what would be the point of signing him?
Jets have a few centers who can fill the bottom 6 roles right?
Jets need to have that 2C asap hopefully a trade at the draft or by some miracle an UFA.
Toews might work ... sign him cheap with big bonus incentives.
 
I don't mind Toews as a 3-4C. Fits well since Lowry is out to start the year or if he suffers a setback. He's only playing for a contender at this point of his career and doubt he's getting in as a top 6 C mainstay with any contender imo, but really no clue.

Scheifele-Namestnikov-Lowry/Toews

I don't think Toews is a viable 2C, but really who knows? 0 estimation on how he will be at 37 with 2 years off. Mike Fisher in 2018 a possibility? :dunno:
 
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He if can't make the 2C spot ... what would be the point of signing him?
Jets have a few centers who can fill the bottom 6 roles right?
Jets need to have that 2C asap hopefully a trade at the draft or by some miracle an UFA.
Toews might work ... sign him cheap with big bonus incentives.
He's still one of the top faceoff guys in the league, he was running near 60% his last season, top of the NHL. That's something we badly need
 
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2C seems like a pipe dream to me BUT would it really be asking too much for him to get to a similar level as Namestnikov?
I don't think so, he dropped off in his last couple of years even defensively but we all know about his woes so not that surprising, if he is now truly healthy then I don't think it would be asking much at all.

Vlad is not very impressive in that role, in fact outside of his defensive play Towes was probably still a better top 6 centre at the end than Vlad, still I doubt we would be signing Towes to play 2C, more just a bottom six addition and for mentor and experience purposes.
 
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I think if you asked most people, almost nobody would believe that Johnathan Toews had only one season where he managed to get a point per game.
That figure always boggles my mind, especially considering some of the great Blackhawk teams he played on.
 
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Personally I'm not very interested in Dobson for the following reasons:

1) Because of his offensive season 2 years ago and because he plays RHD, the cost to acquire will be high.
2) Similar to above, but the cost to extend will also be high.

Generally speaking, the combo of spending a high amount of assets to acquire someone, and then signing them to their max contract is kind of the worst way to build your team. Not saying you should never do it, as it was a great move for the Panthers getting Tkachuk, but these moves are the costliest.

But the other big thing is, there is a reason why a very large percentage of Islander fans have been ok with moving Dobson for almost this entire year, and it has nothing to do with winning the first overall pick. They understand point #2 above, and have been watching his defensive play and it's not something they think they should spend 9 or 10 million on.

My fear would be you spend a ton of trade capital on him and then a huge amount of cap space (he'd be paid as our #1D until Morrissey gets re-signed), and then if his defense doesn't improve you can't trust him for big minutes in the playoffs and now you have a 10M Power Play specialist.

For me, the cost to acquire would have to be reasonable, and his contract demands would have to be reasonable based on his overall play, which doesn't sound like his ask. And then you have the additional issue with the Jets needing to re-sign Connor and Samberg, and if they can't sign Ehlers (and even if we can), we have a huge need to improve the top 6/9, and now we don't have the trade capital and certainly not the cap space to improve it. You'd likely need to include Demelo as well as you'll need to move him from a position perspective as well as a cap one. You don't include Salo because you'd need his ELC more than ever.
Apparently Minni wanted Phillys late 1st or Tyson Forester for Rossi. Maybe additional adds included?

Would you do

Our 1st+Barron for Rossi
Perfetti+ for Dobson
Re sign Ehlers, Toews?


Cap pending, on mobile so don't have the aptitude to do $$$ right now

Connor-Scheifele-Vilardi
Nino-Rossi-Ehlers
Namestnikov/Toews-Lowry-Iafallo
X-Namestnikov/Toews-Y

X,Y: Gus, Kupari probably? Think Tanev and Appleton are gone.

Morrissey-Dobson
Samberg-Pionk
Z-Demelo

Z: Jets have an abundance of 3rd pair D
 
I think if you asked most people, almost nobody would believe that Johnathan Toews had only one season where he managed to get a point per game.
That figure always boggles my mind, especially considering some of the great Blackhawk teams he played on.

To be fair a decent chunk of his peak was during a period of low league wide scoring.
 
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Toews could be a great mentor for transitioning Perfetti to center. Or if we lose Ehlers maybe we could take a chance on high offer sheeting for an unproven high upside young center, (cough cough Maverik Bourque) Run Toews on his wing and taking faceoffs. Who knows, but I think he does nothing but help and open up possibilities.
 
No real surprise that we'd be interested. Chevy indicated as much last year. It does seem pretty wishful thinking that he'd be a good 2C though.

Yeah, 2C might be a bit wishful thinking. That being said, would love to see the Jets add him. I think as a 3C / 4C it’s pretty low risk, high reward and makes a cool story. Also, he has been the definition of clutch in big games during his career.
 
It will be interesting to see how many teams are going to kick the tires on Toews, I don't think that him bring from Winnipeg will be the deciding factor but rather wanting to go to a contending team and that's something the Jets can offer . From the Jets point of view I think they would love to have a 3 time SC champion who just happens to be from here on the roster especially if even at his age he still has juice left in him.

Maybe a combination of both things - jets being able to offer a winning roster and a shot at a cup (I don’t think he’s training the way he is to join a bubble team) + it so happens to be where he grew up. Would be a heckuva story if they win the cup with him on the roster as a contributing player, that’s for sure.
 

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