2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[roccerfeller]

I don't think he was on the trade block at the deadline.

Blues are going to make the playoffs, imo. Schenn vs. Schenn. Hellebuyck vs Binnington, Rd. 3.

If the Jets torch the Blues I could see them going younger, building on their younger core.

If the Blues win, well fawk idk.

We owe them for 2019

 

[surixon]

I don't think he was on the trade block at the deadline.

Blues are going to make the playoffs, imo. Schenn vs. Schenn. Hellebuyck vs Binnington, Rd. 3.

If the Jets torch the Blues I could see them going younger, building on their younger core.

If the Blues win, well fawk idk.

Friedman indicated that the price was very steep and that he indicated he wouldn't wave for certain teams.

So take it for what it's worth.

 

[CanMerc]

Upcoming UFA top 6 Cs…
John Tavares, 34 yr old, 6’1, 211 lb, LHS, John Tavares | 7yrs x 11.000M (TOR)
Brock Nelson, 33 yr old, 6’4, 210 lb, LHS, Brock Nelson | 6yrs x 6.000M (COL)
Claude Giroux, 37 yr old, 5’11, 188 lb, RHS, Claude Giroux | 3yrs x 6.500M (OTT)
Sam Bennett, 28 yr old, 6’1, 195 lb, LHS, Sam Bennett | 4yrs x 4.425M (FLA)
Mikael Granlund, 33 yr old, 5’10, 185 lb, LHS, Mikael Granlund | 4yrs x 5.000M (DAL)

Putting aside the Winnipeg issue…the only ones that really interest me on that list are Brock Nelson or Sam Bennett. Nelson could work on a short 2yr deal, but if we’re looking longer term, then it’s Bennett hands down

I saw a report that he won’t sign in Canada and therefore I’ll remove him from this list, since Sam Bennett is apparently a little bitch,

 

[surixon]

Friedman reiterated today that Schenn wasn't going to come to Winnipeg at the deadline. I think we can strike him off the list as a potential offseason target.

 

[CanMerc]

Friedman reiterated today that Schenn wasn't going to come to Winnipeg at the deadline. I think we can strike him off the list as a potential offseason target.

That list is shrinking rather rapidly

 

[Jet]

I saw a report that he won’t sign in Canada and therefore I’ll remove him from this list, since Sam Bennett is apparently a little bitch,

If I was a pro hockey player and earned the right to play wherever I wanted as a FA I wouldn't play in Canada either. You can call him a little bitch but he's earned the right to pick his spot.

 

[CanMerc]

If I was a pro hockey player and earned the right to play wherever I wanted as a FA I wouldn't play in Canada either. You can call him a little bitch but he's earned the right to pick his spot.

He’s definitely a little bitch…as is anyone who refuses to play hockey in Canada…even worse if they’re Canadian.
Picking the odd city because of certain issues I can understand…like Montreal because of the rabid French language crap, or Toronto because, well Toronto is a shithole…but the whole country…that’s just dumb

 

[Bender Duster]

 

[raideralex99]

Friedman reiterated today that Schenn wasn't going to come to Winnipeg at the deadline. I think we can strike him off the list as a potential offseason target.

When I hear Friedman and the Winnipeg Jets in the same sentence I ignore it. Seriously I don’t ever recall him getting one Jet rumour correct.

 

[tbcwpg]

He’s definitely a little bitch…as is anyone who refuses to play hockey in Canada…even worse if they’re Canadian.
Picking the odd city because of certain issues I can understand…like Montreal because of the rabid French language crap, or Toronto because, well Toronto is a shithole…but the whole country…that’s just dumb

There's lots of reasons to not want to play somewhere. When it comes to Canada, the media attention can be pretty intense and some people don't want that (I wouldn't). Plus he's won a Cup so he's not chasing his first ring and I'd imagine after living on the beaches of Miami for awhile, signing up to drive 45 minutes to Kanata for all your home games doesn't sound super appealing.

Ignoring the current political environment, I think there are lots of reasons to not want to play in Canada. Myself I wouldn't rule anywhere out but it would be A factor.

 

[RestlessYoungZero]

If I was a pro hockey player and earned the right to play wherever I wanted as a FA I wouldn't play in Canada either. You can call him a little bitch but he's earned the right to pick his spot.

and if I was a pro hockey player and earned the right to play wherever I wanted I would play anywhere in the US either.

 

[surixon]

Players have a right in FA to play where they want but I find too many players are short sighted in this regard. They don't want Canada and the media/exposure that comes with it but by that same token that exposure and passion is a large reason for their multimillion salaries. Canada punches well above its weight in terms of providing HRR for the league as a whole and if I was a player I wouldn't be taking that for granted.

 

[CanMerc]

Players have a right in FA to play where they want but I find too many players are short sighted in this regard. They don't want Canada and the media/exposure that comes with it but by that same token that exposure and passion is a large reason for their multimillion salaries. Canada punches well above its weight in terms of providing HRR for the league as a whole and if I was a player I wouldn't be taking that for granted.

The next CBA should do away with NT lists all together, or limit them to a small number of teams, say no more than 3 or 5. If not removed completely, there should be an amendment stipulating that players NT lists shall not include more than 50% of any geographic region…meaning no players can have all of Canada or all of America…so no more than 3 Canadian teams can be included on any one players list.
Lists should also be made public so fans know who doesn’t want to play for their teams and know who they can boo during games.
This NT list crap has gotten completely out of control and having them secretive just cowardice.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

The guys I know that played pro the biggest factor for them is their wives and kids, even guys that never played in the NHL but played in the minors. Weather is a big factor for them, and if you lived some where long enough that sense of community and belonging is another.

 

[Flair Hay]

The next CBA should do away with NT lists all together, or limit them to a small number of teams, say no more than 3 or 5. If not removed completely, there should be an amendment stipulating that players NT lists shall not include more than 50% of any geographic region…meaning no players can have all of Canada or all of America…so no more than 3 Canadian teams can be included on any one players list.
This NT list crap has gotten completely out of control.

It sucks for us, but it is what it is. Gives players a carrot to accept less money and gives players more stability for their families. It's a win-win that isn't going away unfortunately.

 

[Flair Hay]

Players have a right in FA to play where they want but I find too many players are short sighted in this regard. They don't want Canada and the media/exposure that comes with it but by that same token that exposure and passion is a large reason for their multimillion salaries. Canada punches well above its weight in terms of providing HRR for the league as a whole and if I was a player I wouldn't be taking that for granted.

Family comes first and unfortunately for players, playing in Canada often isn't the best fit for them.

Some guys waive to come here, it's just not often.

 

[surixon]

It sucks for us, but it is what it is. Gives players a carrot to accept less money and gives players more stability for their families. It's a win-win that isn't going away unfortunately.

Is it that carrot any longer? They are so common place now that even run of the mill 4th line vets have them. They aren't really a perk but a necessary cost of doing business to secure players. It's really gotten out of hand and teams should be limited in the amount they can hand out. It was supposed to be something for star players but now it's something for almost any decent player in their FA years.

 

[CanMerc]

The guys I know that played pro the biggest factor for them is their wives and kids, even guys that never played in the NHL but played in the minors. Weather is a big factor for them, and if you lived some where long enough that sense of community and belonging is another.

That I get… you get drafted or traded young and sign a long term deal there. Then raise kids there and all that… it makes sense not wanting to leave, but everyone in the work world has to worry about being let go or transferred or layed off.

 

[Flair Hay]

Is it that carrot any longer? They are so common place now that even run of the mill 4th line vets have them. They aren't really a perk but a necessary cost of doing business to secure players. It's really gotten out of hand and teams should be limited in the amount they can hand out. It was supposed to be something for star players but now it's something for almost any decent player in their FA years.

They are a perk or "carrot" young players don't have. They have to put in some time to earn them. They aren't mandatory, it's a non AAV benefit teams are pressured to give out to get a player signed as cheap as possible. League wants cost certainty, players want lifestyle certainty.

Its a commitment GM/owner can make to a player. Unfortunately our destination desirability gets us caught in the cross fire.

 

[Jet]

and if I was a pro hockey player and earned the right to play wherever I wanted I would play anywhere in the US either.

Exactly!!!!!

That's the right you earn as a professional at the top of your field. It doesn't make you a bitch, it makes you someone who has their own life objectives

 

[Jet]

Players have a right in FA to play where they want but I find too many players are short sighted in this regard. They don't want Canada and the media/exposure that comes with it but by that same token that exposure and passion is a large reason for their multimillion salaries. Canada punches well above its weight in terms of providing HRR for the league as a whole and if I was a player I wouldn't be taking that for granted.

I think there are dozens of reasons for choosing a locale if not more.

I think its childish to call someone a bitch because what they want out of their life differs from someone else, especially if that person worked extremely hard to get that choice.

 

[DRW204]

Exactly!!!!!

That's the right you earn as a professional at the top of your field. It doesn't make you a bitch, it makes you someone who has their own life objectives

agreed. like anyone here would not have their own set of criteria, or preferences on where to work, or not want to work somewhere b/c of bad experiences or fit their preferences... ridiculous comment from earlier.

they also should still have the NTCs imo, however, id personally have the criteria for that stricter than what it currently is..... it is the team's fault for giving them away like candy. from a player/employee POV: would anyone here not want a "cant fire" or "can't move" clause in their contract? id ask for one every time im up for a new contract, it's the team's choice to give it or not.

 

[Guardian17]

Wayne Gretzky's statue covered in feces is not going to attract players to Canada.

Feces smeared on Edmonton’s Wayne Gretzky statue

The Wayne Gretzky statue outside Rogers Place in Edmonton has been vandalized with feces.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[WolfHouse]

Wayne Gretzky's statue covered in feces is not going to attract players to Canada.

Feces smeared on Edmonton’s Wayne Gretzky statue

The Wayne Gretzky statue outside Rogers Place in Edmonton has been vandalized with feces.

www.ctvnews.ca

Like anyone gives a shit about that...

 

[Whileee]

The guys I know that played pro the biggest factor for them is their wives and kids, even guys that never played in the NHL but played in the minors. Weather is a big factor for them, and if you lived some where long enough that sense of community and belonging is another.

This tracks. It emphasizes the value of the Jets focusing on draft and develop, or at least acquiring younger players. Also, it's probably not a bad idea to focus on players from the prairies and/or the upper Midwest. There's also a value in stability / loyalty to create a positive environment. The Jets would implode if they took the stone-cold approach that Vegas gets away with.