Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[BobTheSolarsystem]

That's what I said.

No I said it.

 

[TS Quint]

I read in Friedman's 32 thoughts that Laughton's preference is to stay in Philly

I understand that it's a business and he has no trade protection, but would Chevy really trade for him if he was coming here reluctantly, especially with a year of term left?

Kind of felt like Toffoli never wanted to be here. There was never discussion about keeping him it was just he’s gone after the season. A very different situation than Monahan where there was more talk of this could be our 2C if things go right.

 

[surixon]

I read in Friedman's 32 thoughts that Laughton's preference is to stay in Philly

I understand that it's a business and he has no trade protection, but would Chevy really trade for him if he was coming here reluctantly, especially with a year of term left?

I personally don't want anyone in the room that doesn't want to be there. If he wants to stay in Philly then it's not worth it to bring him here.

 

[DRW204]

Kind of felt like Toffoli never wanted to be here. There was never discussion about keeping him it was just he’s gone after the season. A very different situation than Monahan where there was more talk of this could be our 2C if things go right.

I mean he didn't at all. I mean he was checked out and looking forward to UFA while he was here. I mean Monahan has been tremendous in CBJ, he would've been great to keep IMO. I mean 5.5m is not terrible value based on his showing this season (tbd for later)

 

[Bob E]

Friedman, the master of saying nothing in the most amount of words.

Friedman's comments make it sound like Risto and Laughton would be the adds that Chevy should do. Big physical RH dman and depth forward.

And they might be able to do that with picks and prospects like Barlow and Rashevsky. Flyers just might like a prospect like Barlow (seems to be a Flyers-type player) and convince Rashevsky to come over and play with Michkov.

 

[DRW204]

Not sure how much I beleive Frank S..... But if available

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Friedman, the master of saying nothing in the most amount of words.

Chevy is the master, but Friedman is right up there.

 

[Moloch]

Teams with pending UFAs that excite me the most would be Buffalo and Seattle. Lots of nice acquisitions could be made from either.

 

[voyageur]

Friedman's comments make it sound like Risto and Laughton would be the adds that Chevy should do. Big physical RH dman and depth forward.

And they might be able to do that with picks and prospects like Barlow and Rashevsky. Flyers just might like a prospect like Barlow (seems to be a Flyers-type player) and convince Rashevsky to come over and play with Michkov.

I don't have anything against Ristolainen, and he's been on the Jets radar before, but to me what direction would acquiring Risto take the Jets?

If the team isn't going to mess with the top 4, and I would be surprised if they did, the team is essentially pushing out Colin Miller, who has the most playoff experience of any defenseman on the Jets. Not only that but pushing Coghlan and Salomonsson further down the depth chart. Maybe there is an existing injury on the right side, or maybe neither of those depth guys have the confidence from Arniel, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

But the flip side too is that a RD acquisition not only guarantees big Stan a starting job for playoffs, but also means that if there was an injury to a top 4 LD, Stan moves up into that role, or Fleury, and the next guy down the depth chart is Isaak Phillips, assuming Heinola gets moved at the deadline, which seems probable.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

It’s gonna be a long week boys. And we don’t even have @Inanna making sexy posts to distract us anymore. Sigh.

 

[raideralex99]

Not sure how much I beleive Frank S..... But if available

Ken Wiebe made a good point last night on K & R that there's some GMs out there that have no intentions of trading they are just making noise.
I can see the UFAs getting the spotlight but players with term I have a hard time to believe they are on the trade block unless its a cap dump or the player requested a trade which to me is a red flag already.
I wish the NHL would follow the NFL if a players is lost to FAs the team that losers that player picks up an extra draft pick. The bigger the player the higher the draft spot.

 

[surixon]

I don't have anything against Ristolainen, and he's been on the Jets radar before, but to me what direction would acquiring Risto take the Jets?

If the team isn't going to mess with the top 4, and I would be surprised if they did, the team is essentially pushing out Colin Miller, who has the most playoff experience of any defenseman on the Jets. Not only that but pushing Coghlan and Salomonsson further down the depth chart. Maybe there is an existing injury on the right side, or maybe neither of those depth guys have the confidence from Arniel, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

But the flip side too is that a RD acquisition not only guarantees big Stan a starting job for playoffs, but also means that if there was an injury to a top 4 LD, Stan moves up into that role, or Fleury, and the next guy down the depth chart is Isaak Phillips, assuming Heinola gets moved at the deadline, which seems probable.

The other possibility is that Pionk has told the team he's not coming back so getting Risto covers his spot until Salomonsson is ready for it.

If we use Snerg as a template he was used for a couple of years on the bottom pairing prior to being elevated to the top 4. So I could see a similar timeline for Salomonsson which would mean they'd need a top 4 guy signed for a couple years.

 

[voyageur]

The other possibility is that Pionk has told the team he's not coming back so getting Risto covers his spot until Salomonsson is ready for it.

If we use Snerg as a template he was used for a couple of years on the bottom pairing prior to being elevated to the top 4. So I could see a similar timeline for Salomonsson which would mean they'd need a top 4 guy signed for a couple years.

Interesting, but of all the guys re-signing Pionk is the one I would be most confident in. That would throw Chevy for a loop though if the contract negotiations broke down.

 

[Mooche]

The other possibility is that Pionk has told the team he's not coming back so getting Risto covers his spot until Salomonsson is ready for it.

If we use Snerg as a template he was used for a couple of years on the bottom pairing prior to being elevated to the top 4. So I could see a similar timeline for Salomonsson which would mean they'd need a top 4 guy signed for a couple years.

That's how I see any sort of significant RD add discussion as well. Basically just a hedge on whatever happens with Pionk.

Salo will be primed to take a top 4 RD spot when the time comes. The flexibility with his ELC will be worth it's weight in gold.

Allows them to slide DeMelo into a more sheltered role if they choose.

Spending ~6M on Salo/DeMelo combined is a nice spot to be in and allows the team to go a multitude of ways to fill in the last RD position.

 

[Huffer]

Not sure how much I beleive Frank S..... But if available

Very strange for Buffalo as he seems to be one of their few young forwards who's getting it done. Unless there are concerns with his next contract. (And it all could be a nothingburger as well).

That or they're just fed up with him shooting with his eyes closed?

 

[DRW204]

Except the Jets early season success was buoyed by the checking line scoring at a much higher rate than the 2nd line. Since Christmas it seems like the 2 lines have reversed. And I think trends would be more indicative than the sum of production going towards the deadline?

Nino does concern me as being one of the slower skaters. But I don't have the analytics either to prove that Appleton is killing offense lately, it just seems that way from the eye test.

yeah it's possible that their trend is a new norm (mentioned this in post 5499). but just am not confident enough to conclude that yet.

appleton gets an odd amount of hate on here over the last couple seasons. he's not some irreplaceable player for sure, i've mentioned Palmieri for instance as a possible top-9F upgrade that would usurp him.

however, at a ~2m cap-hit he was the highest scorer of the bottom-6 last year, & this season in terms of finishing (5v5, since he does not PP) he rates better than a few of the HF's favorites. 6 goals and 16 pts on 24 on-ice GF, with 1.47 pts/60 - if he's killing offense, what does that say about some others? he's producing similarly to a couple top-6 Fwds have for the season. if i were to define a mid-3rd liner, it's appleton lol. he's usually my litmus test for the benchmark of top-9 vs top-6 fwd.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Not a chance they trade peterka...

 

[hockeyarena]

Very strange for Buffalo as he seems to be one of their few young forwards who's getting it done. Unless there are concerns with his next contract. (And it all could be a nothingburger as well).

That or they're just fed up with him shooting with his eyes closed?

I wonder if we somehow get John Jacob jingleheimer Peterka and Tuch. Would probably involve ehlers. Everytime i see Tuch play i wonder how he hasn't been a 90pt player.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

If Ehlers plans on heading to Montreal or elsewhere, I think we should trade him for Rantanen. It should be Chevy offering Ehlers a contract, and if he turns it down trade him for Rantanen. I think it's fair considering both are UFAs and both Winnipeg and Carolina are contending teams.

Rantanen could be a good fit here. But it's just a suggestion.

But what the Jets do need is a LHD on the third pairing with Miller. Possibly a starting goaltender as a back-up, similar to Jonathan Quick. Cam Talbot would be my pick.

I see Brock Nelson being a Jet though.

 

[raideralex99]

If Ehlers plans on heading to Montreal or elsewhere, I think we should trade him for Rantanen. It should be Chevy offering Ehlers a contract, and if he turns it down trade him for Rantanen. I think it's fair considering both are UFAs and both Winnipeg and Carolina are contending teams.

Rantanen could be a good fit here. But it's just a suggestion.

But what the Jets do need is a LHD on the third pairing with Miller. Possibly a starting goaltender as a back-up, similar to Jonathan Quick. Cam Talbot would be my pick.

I see Brock Nelson being a Jet though.

The latest I heard Brock Nelson wants to stay and resign with the Isles.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

If Ehlers plans on heading to Montreal or elsewhere, I think we should trade him for Rantanen. It should be Chevy offering Ehlers a contract, and if he turns it down trade him for Rantanen. I think it's fair considering both are UFAs and both Winnipeg and Carolina are contending teams.

Rantanen could be a good fit here. But it's just a suggestion.

But what the Jets do need is a LHD on the third pairing with Miller. Possibly a starting goaltender as a back-up, similar to Jonathan Quick. Cam Talbot would be my pick.

I see Brock Nelson being a Jet though.

Sorry what is the difference between renting ehlers or renting rantanen?

 

[bustamente]

Looks like a few of the players on the trade market don't want to leave the teams they are on, not exactly players that you want to trade for.

 

[Crocket]

Chevy is talking to Chi about Jones; A couple players and a 2nd for Jones, with some money retained. (Stanley, Prospect + 2nd)

Don't know if we get B Schenn but he'd be a good 2C.

Jomo - Jones
Sam - Pionk
Fluery - DeMelo

Heinola - Miller

I can't imagine we play Stanley in the playoffs, against the Preds he was awful. His penalty liability supersedes his effectiveness.

Fleury is much better.

 

[CanMerc]

If Ehlers plans on heading to Montreal or elsewhere, I think we should trade him for Rantanen. It should be Chevy offering Ehlers a contract, and if he turns it down trade him for Rantanen. I think it's fair considering both are UFAs and both Winnipeg and Carolina are contending teams.

Rantanen could be a good fit here. But it's just a suggestion.

But what the Jets do need is a LHD on the third pairing with Miller. Possibly a starting goaltender as a back-up, similar to Jonathan Quick. Cam Talbot would be my pick.

I see Brock Nelson being a Jet though.

I’d rather Chevy try to pry Pulock or Dobson out of NYI with him.
My opinion is there’s zero chance Rantanen chooses to stay in WPG

Chevy is talking to Chi about Jones; A couple players and a 2nd for Jones, with some money retained. (Stanley, Prospect + 2nd)

Don't know if we get B Schenn but he'd be a good 2C.

Jomo - Jones
Sam - Pionk
Fluery - DeMelo

Heinola - Miller

I can't imagine we play Stanley in the playoffs, against the Preds he was awful. His penalty liability supersedes his effectiveness.

Fleury is much better.

Rather they did nothing over getting Jones.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Chevy is talking to Chi about Jones; A couple players and a 2nd for Jones, with some money retained. (Stanley, Prospect + 2nd)

Don't know if we get B Schenn but he'd be a good 2C.

Jomo - Jones
Sam - Pionk
Fluery - DeMelo

Heinola - Miller

I can't imagine we play Stanley in the playoffs, against the Preds he was awful. His penalty liability supersedes his effectiveness.

Fleury is much better.

Only thing that gives me pause on the Jones deal aside from how much gets retained is how he would fit in the room.

Arniel and Bones both made a point to continue talking about how everyone in the room wants to be a Jet, and it being a big reason for our renewed success. I guess that would sort of answer itself though if the deal goes through since he would have to waive.