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Buffdog said:
I read in Friedman's 32 thoughts that Laughton's preference is to stay in Philly

I understand that it's a business and he has no trade protection, but would Chevy really trade for him if he was coming here reluctantly, especially with a year of term left?
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Very good question.

Ironically enough, that's the only rumored offer we've heard so far on the table (that I can recall) where Chevy offered a 2nd rounder.

All likely just leaked by Philly to hopefully drive up the price and squeak out a 1st, but still.

Guess it comes down to if Laughton wants to play winning hockey and chase a Cup.
 
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Buffdog said:
I read in Friedman's 32 thoughts that Laughton's preference is to stay in Philly

I understand that it's a business and he has no trade protection, but would Chevy really trade for him if he was coming here reluctantly, especially with a year of term left?
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It could very well be Slim Pickens at the deadline looking for the right fit.

Utah and St. Louis are suddenly right in the race in the West. And Vancouver and Calgary don't look good.

Detroit, Columbus, Rangers, Sens are definitely in the Eastern battle.

That's 20 teams still in the playoff race.

Anaheim picking up Husso is probably a sign they will drop out.

But of the 12 teams that are out of it, how many guys are available with no trade protection? Everyone on the Kraken has a NTC. Nelson, Dumoulin, etc.

And teams in the East haven't moved at all yet.

Joel Armia it is. Maybe Cody Glass.
 
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I'm not a big fan of Schenn who I feel is just to slow skater to keep up, and sounds like bc of term & name would be much more expensive then a guy like Laughton. Laughton isn't a sexy star by any means but would be a great leader, bottom six guy who can move up in case of injuries
 
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Whats everyone's thoughts about the risk and cost with Sean couturier? Just feels like this is the time to strike for him if there was a chance of him waiving to come to Winnipeg.
 
voyageur said:
I say just give these guys a chance. Lowry and whoever the "2C" is are going to play equal ice time. Especially at home where Lowry will get top dog matchups. People should be more concerned with Mason Appleton matching up against team's best lines, best d-pairings than who is going to play with Ehlers and succeed because figuring out how to play on the same line as Ehlers isn't easy. Give Namestnikov some credit there.

Give me Lowry-Laughton for d-zone matchups. Maybe with Iafallo who was throwing some good sauce up there, and drop the 3rd line wingers to the 4th line.

And then readjust wherever you have to.
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I don't think it would be the end of the world if we did run this out, and it could certainly work. I just think if you can find something to improve the team you do it. We also found out last year disrupting and trying to improve the team doesn't always work out.
 
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voyageur said:
I say just give these guys a chance. Lowry and whoever the "2C" is are going to play equal ice time. Especially at home where Lowry will get top dog matchups. People should be more concerned with Mason Appleton matching up against team's best lines, best d-pairings than who is going to play with Ehlers and succeed because figuring out how to play on the same line as Ehlers isn't easy. Give Namestnikov some credit there.

Give me Lowry-Laughton for d-zone matchups. Maybe with Iafallo who was throwing some good sauce up there, and drop the 3rd line wingers to the 4th line.

And then readjust wherever you have to.
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Appleton this year is scoring at the same rate as golden-boy Perfetti at 5v5. Nino is the one on the 3rd line that has kind of underperformed this year of the 3 i think (not that he's been bad, just based on his recent career standards)
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
I haven't put any words in your mouth and I didn't disagree with you about using more than just this year's stats. I said, "Not just you, but many here, keep talking about him as though he is some very strong prospect." I also said, "Fine. Look at his stats last year too." And I talked of several more years.

If you agree he has question marks and would part with him for the right return, what are we talking about here? We seem to agree.
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You are putting words in my mouth when you say "not just you" and then imply something I have not said. Nowhere in my post did I say he was a can't miss guy or someone that couldn't be moved for the right return.

As for you last line, exactly. We're only talking because you decided to quote my post where I said that I would move him for the right return but that only using his most recent Moose season to evaluate him was crazy.

No need to go on unless you want to.
 
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Hunter368 said:
I'm not a big fan of Schenn who I feel is just to slow skater to keep up, and sounds like bc of term & name would be much more expensive then a guy like Laughton. Laughton isn't a sexy star by any means but would be a great leader, bottom six guy who can move up in case of injuries
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Schenn is actually above average in speed.

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NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.
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The data shows he's actually faster than Laughton NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters
 
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bustamente said:
3 more games till the deadline, Jets actually play the night of the deadline. Maybe we start to see some smoke over the weekend. I would like to see some more of our UFA's extended before the deadline at least the one the Jets want to keep. Have a feeling the most important one of them is talking a walk.
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Nah I think Pionk is staying.
 
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DRW204 said:
Appleton this year is scoring at the same rate as golden-boy Perfetti at 5v5. Nino is the one on the 3rd line that has kind of underperformed this year of the 3 i think (not that he's been bad, just based on his recent career standards)
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Except the Jets early season success was buoyed by the checking line scoring at a much higher rate than the 2nd line. Since Christmas it seems like the 2 lines have reversed. And I think trends would be more indicative than the sum of production going towards the deadline?

Nino does concern me as being one of the slower skaters. But I don't have the analytics either to prove that Appleton is killing offense lately, it just seems that way from the eye test.
 
BobTheSolarsystem said:
Dont understand Calgary's incentive to trade Weegar though...?
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There really isn't. It was only raised because Murat used him as a player that would be a great fit for the Jets. And that was when Calgary was struggling I think, and before they came out and said they weren't moving those guys (not that they should anyway).
 
Peter Tagli Eddie said:
Schenn is actually above average in speed.

edge.nhl.com

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.
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The data shows he's actually faster than Laughton NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters
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I never said he was dead slow, I just don't think he is fast enough skater to keep up with our top 6. The roles expected from Laughton and Schenn are very different, so the expectation should be also. I would hard pass on Schenn for any top six role & hes to expensive for a bottom six role. , Laughton if we got him for a 2nd for our bottom six would be a nice add.
 
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Huffer said:
You are putting words in my mouth when you say "not just you" and then imply something I have not said. Nowhere in my post did I say he was a can't miss guy or someone that couldn't be moved for the right return.

As for you last line, exactly. We're only talking because you decided to quote my post where I said that I would move him for the right return but that only using his most recent Moose season to evaluate him was crazy.

No need to go on unless you want to.
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OK, I should have left out "just" and inserted necessarily.
 
Huffer said:
There really isn't. It was only raised because Murat used him as a player that would be a great fit for the Jets. And that was when Calgary was struggling I think, and before they came out and said they weren't moving those guys (not that they should anyway).
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Conroy interview says Kadri, Andersson and Weegar are untouchables... so there you go - mystery solved!
 
gojetsgo said:

"Winnipeg is a slightly different story. Cheveldayoff’s taken big swings before, and you can feel the excitement among the fanbase at the possibility of another. He has to navigate what’s available to him, and will undoubtedly research the sexiest options. But what if those are impossible, due to trade protection or lack of true supply?
I see another possible path. The most mobile, lengthy, physical, nasty defender he can find — fitting the profile of recent Stanley Cup champions who were loaded with them. One or two forwards to make your group a little deeper. Not the marquee names, but “perfect fits,” the sum of the parts making you whole."
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Friedman, the master of saying nothing in the most amount of words.
 
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