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Mortimer Snerd said:
Are you remembering Armia and Tanev as they were when here before? Armia is 7 years older, 31 and Tanev is 6 years older and 33. Either might have more finish than Barron. Or maybe his production is just about limited opportunities and a little bad puck luck.

If they are an improvement it will be marginal and probably not worth the costs.
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If bringing in 3rd liners to play 4th line is too marginal an upgrade to make for folks than so be it. I won't argue that,

I just think having some cheap to acquire depth we know how to fit in makes sense as long as it doesn't preclude any bigger moves.
 
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Wpgpage said:
I guess I just have a much lower opinion of the current 4th line guys then most on here. Not to say that I think Kupari and Barron are costing the Jets games but they are just kind of there not providing a ton of value. I get that they are both fast and Armia is certainly not fast but what does Kupari do with that speed? In the regular season they are both totally fine in thier roles but going into the post season I think it would be a huge upgrade to have a guy who can play at a 3rd line level on the 4th. As a plus he's an excellent penalty killer something the Jets need as Kupari has not been good on the PK.

The current bottom forwards P/60 at Even strength
Barron 0.8
Kupari 0.9
Iaffalo 1.2
Appleton 1.6
Nino 1.7
Lowry 2.3
Namestnikov 1.6
Armia 1.8

Assuming that they are able to add another middle 6 C whoever that may be the 4th line going into game one would be
Iaffalo/ Namestnikov/ Armia
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If actually prefer Barron to armia AINEC to me.
 
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people talk about wasting assets on rentals all the time but going after a 4th liner would truly be a waste, it's not like we have toni/ajf taking up regular spots, we have legit nhlers in that spot, if we want an upgrade we need to do so by pushing names who is playing above his skill level down that position

also to the people talking about armia being good on the pk, how much of him have you watched? do the habs run a similar pk to the jets? would he fit in and can he replicate his success with the jets pk?
 
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Flair Hay said:
Barron is the only guy on this list I'd consider borderline competent if he had to move up to the 3rd line. When it comes to playoffs and there is no weak competition.

I mean, Toninato, Ford and AJF are AHLers (no offense to them).

Armia or Tanev or Laughton are just guys we can bring in who are plus 4th liners capable of not being a liability if shit hits the fan and they need to play 3rd. No one besides Iafallo on our team fits that bill currently. Add Namestnikov if we got a 2C though.
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I would say Laughton is a definite upgrade to the 4th line.

I was responding to the call for Armia.
 
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Flair Hay said:
If bringing in 3rd liners to play 4th line is too marginal an upgrade to make for folks than so be it. I won't argue that,

I just think having some cheap to acquire depth we know how to fit in makes sense as long as it doesn't preclude any bigger moves.
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It's always good to suggest depth because that what Arniel talked about, understanding the playoff grind and losing players for weeks at a time, shot blockers especially, is something you have to prepare for.

Jets fans can't clamour for the top dog on July 1st so the trade deadline is the consolation prize. Navigating No Trade Clauses. I think Brock Nelson is the top player left on the trade board. After that it's a tougher call for Chevy/Arniel. I'd still like to see Lowry-Ehlers in the playoffs, against team's best forwards/ d-men. Give the long time leaders of the team a chance to prove themselves.

I haven't watched a Finland game but I did see a nice back door pass from Maata, is he the best d-man on the market?

If Chevy keeps his first he has a lot more leverage offseason than he does if he goes big on a rental, so that's one I'll be interested to see where management assesses this team.
 
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Mad Dog Tannen said:
What is this?

Like 2 or 3 pages about Joel armia?

No thank you.

As others have said - we have bottom 6th depth. We need to add players that are 2nd line (.6 to .75 ppg) or have an offensive mindset/skills to move up to top 6 if needed. IMO.
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Has it really come to this? Discussion about Armia??
Get a serious upgrade or don't bother. As mentioned by someone else earlier Toninato, AJF, AJD are all better options at this point as they cost you nothing.
 
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Flair Hay said:
All good, we can agree to disagree on him vs Barron. Maybe I'm wrong.
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looking at the offensive stats, you are probably right. Although Armia plays 40% more than Barron.

Mostly, I dont want retreads. And if Chevy upgrades the top 6, when Lowry is back we may see Perfetti - Names - Iafallo as the 4th line.
 
flin flon bombers said:
I haven't heard to many players state otherwise, yes a few but for the most part they all say they love playing where they are.
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"One of the best leaders ... takes the time to make everybody feel like they belong," said Yager about Crosby. "He wished me the best and said Winnipeg would be a great spot for me"


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  • He could help Las Vegas win their 2nd Stanley Cup.
  • He could help Colorado win their 4th Stanley Cup, and 2nd with their current core.
He could also stay in Pittsburgh, riding out his last 5 seasons not making the playoffs. I'm sure that's going to sit well with him.

I bet he can't wait to see Ovi hoist his 2nd Cup. Or McDavid helping Edmonton win the Stanley Cup, something a Canadian team hasn't done since 1993 (even furthering his legacy). I'm sure Sidney will love lying on his sofa, wondering about how there wasn't a single destination in 2025, that could have gotten him to leave Pittsburgh.

It's too bad there isn't a location that's an absolutely perfect situation for him to land in. A small market (Canadian) team that's never won before, hmmm...
 
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"One of the best leaders ... takes the time to make everybody feel like they belong," said Yager about Crosby. "He wished me the best and said Winnipeg would be a great spot for me"


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  • He could help Las Vegas win their 2nd Stanley Cup?
  • He could help Colorado win their 4th Stanley Cup, and 2nd with their current core?
He could also stay in Pittsburgh, riding out his last 5 seasons not making the playoffs. I'm sure that's going to sit well with him.

I bet he can't wait to see Ovi hoist his 2nd Cup. Or McDavid helping Edmonton win the Stanley Cup, something a Canadian team hasn't done since 1993 (even furthering his legacy). I'm sure Sidney will love sitting on his sofa, because there wasn't a single destination in the NHL that could possibly get him to leave Pittsburgh. I doubt he'd want to be a disruptor.

It's too bad there isn't a location that's an absolutely perfect situation for him to land in. A small market (Canadian) team that's never won before, hmmm...
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That would be awesome....
 
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Crosby becoming a Jet would be one of a few things that would get me to buy a New Jersey at their current crazy prices.
 
Frank Cannon PI said:
"One of the best leaders ... takes the time to make everybody feel like they belong," said Yager about Crosby. "He wished me the best and said Winnipeg would be a great spot for me"


View attachment 977653

  • He could help Las Vegas win their 2nd Stanley Cup.
  • He could help Colorado win their 4th Stanley Cup, and 2nd with their current core.
He could also stay in Pittsburgh, riding out his last 5 seasons not making the playoffs. I'm sure that's going to sit well with him.

I bet he can't wait to see Ovi hoist his 2nd Cup. Or McDavid helping Edmonton win the Stanley Cup, something a Canadian team hasn't done since 1993 (even furthering his legacy). I'm sure Sidney will love lying on his sofa, wondering about how there wasn't a single destination in 2025, that could have gotten him to leave Pittsburgh.

It's too bad there isn't a location that's an absolutely perfect situation for him to land in. A small market (Canadian) team that's never won before, hmmm...
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IF Crosby changes teams I suspect he only goes to Colorado.
 
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voyageur said:
I don't know how slow Armia actually is. He's never struck me as slow. Being a good PKer requires some speed. Playoff grind is winning battles. And Armia can win battles. The last game I was at Appleton was brutal. Going down the lineup after him gets you to Ford and Lambert with 0 playoff experience. For a 4th/5th round pick you might actually be upgrading on the player who is comfortably, some would say too comfortably, a top 9 lock so far.

Now maybe the Jets acquire a top 9 player, and demote Appleton a line. But that's still a player who is not coming off a strong playoff, seems like a risk free move adding depth at the RW position, with some playoff experience.

I'd prefer Sissons personally because he also backs up the defensive RHC, and is also great on the PK. Not sure he is actually available though.
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For the right price, that is very low, I wouldn't mind. But I am concerned with his speed. It was OK 7/8 years ago but I hear he is slow now. He has been through a few injuries.

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I don't think you see Namestnikov centering the secondary defensive line with the worst FO% of all centers. I honestly believe he stays in the top 6, because it's not broken and the roles are pretty clear. Lowry/Kupari are the defensive zone faceoff guys in the bottom 6. Now it is possible a 2C is added and Namestnikov ends up a 4th line winger.
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Unless Lowry stays at 2C. That still probably pushes Names down to 4th line wing though.
 
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Mortimer Snerd said:
For the right price, that is very low, I wouldn't mind. But I am concerned with his speed. It was OK 7/8 years ago but I hear he is slow now. He has been through a few injuries.



Unless Lowry stays at 2C. That still probably pushes Names down to 4th line wing though.
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I agree. If we get another centre names is likely a winger. Kupari has been too good on faceoffs, where as names has been pretty bad.

I just wish Kupari had better hands and could finish - he has speed, skating, and decent passing, vision. Just total stone hands.
 
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Mad Dog Tannen said:
I agree. If we get another centre names is likely a winger. Kupari has been too good on faceoffs, where as names has been pretty bad.

I just wish Kupari had better hands and could finish - he has speed, skating, and decent passing, vision. Just total stone hands.
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Ya if he starts scoring just a little bit more he makes the Dubois trade even more one sided.
 
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