Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Xavier Laflamme]

if we expect a long run we can expect injuries to happen, I do not want to see ford/lambert in the playoffs at all, so we 100% need to add to this roster

It's crazy how so many seem to not understand this, yes our team is good but the playoffs are a different story and to win the whole thing you need a shitload of depth.

So yeah the whole "we don't need to add at the deadline, we have a good team" is nonsensical and just not going to fly.

 

[CanMerc]

I expect he goes to Toronto. I get he has no trade value but GMs often consult with veterans about that stuff.

As someone who has lived in southern Ontario most of my life, less that 2 hours drive from Toronto..I can honestly say there is nothing and no amount of money that would get me to play for that team or live in that city.
I get the night life and other obvious attractions, but I don’t get why anyone wants to play for a perennial loser team…I could understand if they were a Cup threat year after year, but they can barely get out of the 1st round, yet there’s a lineup to play there…but the Jets, who are, in my opinion, closer to a Cup than the leafs, have to beg to get players.
I can understand someone like Crosby wanting to play in TO…big Canadian name that not only brings the Cup back to Canada, but brings it to Toronto….hed be able to eat, drink, and everything else free there for the rest of his life. They’d name streets and schools and days after him.

 

[voyageur]

Murat juat put out an article on our trade pieces and likelihood they get moved. Ranking the Winnipeg Jets’ top 10 trade assets: Which ones could be in play?

Perfetti and Salomonsson are untouchable in his eyes. Lambert and Yager are near untouchable.

Every other prospect and our 2025 and 2026 first round picks are available for the right price.

Heinola has his own distinct category as Dubious.

The Jets are going to need most of their prospects.

People bitching about the quality of the Moose should be aware that it's because there's not very many prospects to choose from

My propsect ranking of the Jets

1. Yager
2. Salomonsson
3. Lambert
4. Chibrikov
5. Barlow
6. He
7. Walton
8. Freij
9. Ford
10 Di Vincentiis

Beyond that Lucius is looking like the only salvageable prospect with a miracl Maybe Nehring has some value too.

and the only one I'd have on the table is Chibrikov because he's got no playoff value this year, unlikely to accept demotion next year, and if you pick up a player with term you'd measure this year's playoff and next year vs. his expected output. I think that he would carry the highest value in a trade, from a position of depth, and probably be a lot more comfortable on a team with Russians. Rashevsky may have some minimal value if he was willing to come across the pond.

I'd put Chibrikov straight up against Laughton. Particularly because I could see Laughton centering Perfetti next year, if Namestnikov gets paid for his good work this season.

 

[surixon]

ROR, 34 yrs old, has no trade protection, 2 yrs left at 4.5m AAV, and Nashville is trending down…wonder if he’d want to go to a contender for those 2 years, possibly his last, or even if Nashville would consider moving him.
ROR would be the perfect 2C get…though very likely expensive

Trots has already indicated that he'd treat him like he has trade protection. He'd have to want to come here for us to be able to get him.

My guess is he isn't interested in coming here with 3 years left on his deal.

He isn't even worth considering imo.

 

[CanMerc]

Trots has already indicated that he'd treat him like he has trade protection. He'd have to want to come here for us to be able to get him.

My guess is he isn't interested in coming here with 3 years left on his deal.

He isn't even worth considering imo.

Never hurts to ask and offer

 

[Jets 31]

Put him between Ehlers and Names or Perfetti…or better yet, get Bjorkstrand

ROR between Ehlers and Perfetti might be brilliant and then Namestnikov with Lowry and Neo for the 3rd would be probably pretty good.

 

[surixon]

Never hurts to ask and offer

Sure, but it will be 100% O'Rielly's decision on if he comes here or not. I'm not holding my breath on it.

 

[CanMerc]

The Jets are going to need most of their prospects.

People bitching about the quality of the Moose should be aware that it's because there's not very many prospects to choose from

My propsect ranking of the Jets

1. Yager
2. Salomonsson
3. Lambert
4. Chibrikov
5. Barlow
6. He
7. Walton
8. Freij
9. Ford
10 Di Vincentiis

Beyond that Lucius is looking like the only salvageable prospect with a miracl Maybe Nehring has some value too.

and the only one I'd have on the table is Chibrikov because he's got no playoff value this year, unlikely to accept demotion next year, and if you pick up a player with term you'd measure this year's playoff and next year vs. his expected output. I think that he would carry the highest value in a trade, from a position of depth, and probably be a lot more comfortable on a team with Russians. Rashevsky may have some minimal value if he was willing to come across the pond.

I'd put Chibrikov straight up against Laughton. Particularly because I could see Laughton centering Perfetti next year, if Namestnikov gets paid for his good work this season.

What are you seeing for lineups next season?
Who slots where?

 

[voyageur]

What are you seeing for lineups next season?
Who slots where?

Myself

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-? (Laughton)-? (Ehlers)
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Ford
Gustafsson

Barlow-Yager-Lambert top line on Moose.
Toninato-Lucius-? (FA/M. Shaw)
JAD-Julien-Zhilkin

And I'll point out that Laughton has more ES points than Perfetti, Namestnikov, and O'Reilly this season.

 

[CanMerc]

Myself

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-? (Laughton)-? (Ehlers)
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Ford
Gustafsson

Barlow-Yager-Lambert top line on Moose.
Toninato-Lucius-? (FA/M. Shaw)
JAD-Julien-Zhilkin

And I'll point out that Laughton has more ES points than Perfetti, Namestnikov, and O'Reilly this season.

I can see Lambert getting some looks in Apples slot with Lowry and Nino and hopefully Barlow gets some looks as well.
I still don’t see Laughton as a 2C on this team and think we need better… I wouldn’t look at Laughton at all.
I think we need to make the big swing for a 2C, but who’s available and who’s willing are apparently the issues.

 

[voyageur]

I can see Lambert getting some looks in Apples slot with Lowry and Nino and hopefully Barlow gets some looks as well.
I still don’t see Laughton as a 2C on this team and think we need better…who’s available and who’s willing are the issues, but I wouldn’t look at Laughton at all.

That's fine. I see him as a better option than O'Reilly because of age, and skating, and he scores at a decent rate. Almost Lowry rate ES, and that's from a defensive role. I think the Jets are looking for PKers if they lose a bunch offseason, and he fits the mold of a top PKer. Which is where Yager will be eventually.

 

[surixon]

Myself

Connor-Scheif-Vilardi
Perfetti-? (Laughton)-? (Ehlers)
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Barron-Kupari-Ford
Gustafsson

Barlow-Yager-Lambert top line on Moose.
Toninato-Lucius-? (FA/M. Shaw)
JAD-Julien-Zhilkin

And I'll point out that Laughton has more ES points than Perfetti, Namestnikov, and O'Reilly this season.

It's far too hard for me to predict lines for next year given the sheer amount of expiring contracts we have.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

It's far too hard for me to predict lines for next year given the sheer amount of expiring contracts we have.

Agreed, I am also not antsy to give up Chibrikov in a deal - looked like an NHL ready winger that can play anywhere in the top 9 with sublime skating last callup

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

That's fine. I see him as a better option than O'Reilly because of age, and skating, and he scores at a decent rate. Almost Lowry rate ES, and that's from a defensive role. I think the Jets are looking for PKers if they lose a bunch offseason, and he fits the mold of a top PKer. Which is where Yager will be eventually.

Laughton is no 2C and we already have a better 3C than him in Lowry, we all know Vlad is not it for 2C but neither is Laughton, and personally I am not high on ROR either, he is having a bad year on a bad team but still the guy is playing with Forsberg and Marchessault, he might be completely declining at his age and best to stay away.

 

[voyageur]

ES points (brace yourself)

Laughton 10 g, 14 a
Cozens 9 g, 14 a
O'Reilly 8 g, 14 a
Perfetti 6g, 15 a
Namestnikov 8g, 10 a

Tell me if you don't see a bias in what posters are defining as a 2C. Especially since Laugton has played more 3rd line than 2nd line this year.

 

[tbcwpg]

As someone who has lived in southern Ontario most of my life, less that 2 hours drive from Toronto..I can honestly say there is nothing and no amount of money that would get me to play for that team or live in that city.
I get the night life and other obvious attractions, but I don’t get why anyone wants to play for a perennial loser team…I could understand if they were a Cup threat year after year, but they can barely get out of the 1st round, yet there’s a lineup to play there…but the Jets, who are, in my opinion, closer to a Cup than the leafs, have to beg to get players.
I can understand someone like Crosby wanting to play in TO…big Canadian name that not only brings the Cup back to Canada, but brings it to Toronto….hed be able to eat, drink, and everything else free there for the rest of his life. They’d name streets and schools and days after him.

He's already played there once. He would also fits a need they have.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

ES points (brace yourself)

Laughton 10 g, 14 a
Cozens 9 g, 14 a
O'Reilly 8 g, 14 a
Perfetti 6g, 15 a
Namestnikov 8g, 10 a

Tell me if you don't see a bias in what posters are defining as a 2C. Especially since Laugton has played more 3rd line than 2nd line this year.

I understand what you're saying, the other options out there aren't great but just because he has more ES points than some others doesn't make him good, he is a perennial 30-40 point guy and has only ever once cracked the 15 goal mark in his entire NHL career, not really someone we want as 2C especially considering the Flyers won't move him on the cheap.

Like I said we already have Lowry who is a better Laughton, now if we could get him on the cheap, sure why not, never hurts to have tough gritty centre depth but they won't let him go cheap and we shouldn't pay that price.

 

[voyageur]

I understand what you're saying, the other options out there aren't great but just because he has more ES points than some others doesn't make him good, he is a perennial 30-40 point guy and has only ever once cracked the 15 goal mark in his entire NHL career, not really someone we want as 2C especially considering the Flyers won't move him on the cheap.

Like I said we already have Lowry who is a better Laughton, now if we could get him on the cheap, sure why not, never hurts to have tough gritty centre depth but they won't let him go cheap and we shouldn't pay that price.

You can never have enough centers. Especially if they play wing. I just see a guy who can win pucks, defensive zone, offensive zone, go to the net, probably not as quick of a puck mover as Namestnikov but he could definitely play the wing. Maybe start with Lowy if you want a secondary center on a defensive line, like Copp used to be.

I don't know what Briere is asking for. Chibrikov to play with Michkov next season would probably start a conversation. I think the Flyers are in the tank for a center this draft. Might get Roger Mc Queen. If Bobby Clarke has any influence. With 3 firsts can probably acquire one offseason too.

 

[tbcwpg]

I understand what you're saying, the other options out there aren't great but just because he has more ES points than some others doesn't make him good, he is a perennial 30-40 point guy and has only ever once cracked the 15 goal mark in his entire NHL career, not really someone we want as 2C especially considering the Flyers won't move him on the cheap.

Like I said we already have Lowry who is a better Laughton, now if we could get him on the cheap, sure why not, never hurts to have tough gritty centre depth but they won't let him go cheap and we shouldn't pay that price.

I think, if a genuine 2C isn't available, getting some depth where you could rotate any one of those 3 into a top 6 role for a time wouldn't be a bad secondary idea.

 

[BoneDocUK]

Hence why he had his own category lol

Can't get the article here, so appreciate the summary.

Was Stan on the list? Can't see the Jets trading him but wondered if he might be available for the right price.

 

[surixon]

Can't get the article here, so appreciate the summary.

Was Stan on the list? Can't see the Jets trading him but wondered if he might be available for the right price.

Nope he wasn't. He just included young pieces and picks.

 

[Buffdog]

Laughton may not be a 2C, but having him, Lowry and Names means that we have no 4C in the lineup either

CSV - great 1st line

Ehlers - Lowry - Iafallo - OK 2nd line

Nino - Laughton - Perfetti - OK 2nd line/great 3rd line

Barron - Names - Appleton - poor 3rd line/elite 4th line

You basically have 2 2nd lines and a 3rd line as your bottom 9

That depth is insane at both ends of the rink

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

My heart agrees. But we are one scheifele injury away from basically being done in the playoffs. We need a 2c with some offense IMO.

Sure - we need a one two punch down the middle. There is no option available to get that. None.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

You can never have enough centers. Especially if they play wing. I just see a guy who can win pucks, defensive zone, offensive zone, go to the net, probably not as quick of a puck mover as Namestnikov but he could definitely play the wing. Maybe start with Lowy if you want a secondary center on a defensive line, like Copp used to be.

I don't know what Briere is asking for

I think, if a genuine 2C isn't available, getting some depth where you could rotate any one of those 3 into a top 6 role for a time wouldn't be a bad secondary idea.

I think you guys are misunderstanding me, I don't hate the idea of getting Laughton, he is very similar to Lowry and having another Lowry would be great, however I am absolutely against paying a 1st for him as that is apparently the ask.

There is no way we should be giving up our first for Laughton, that's madness especially considering he is not a viable 2C for us which is a hole we do desperately need to fill, we have one true top 6 centre and imagine he goes down, we are cooked.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I dont know. I mean Nashville is likely on the verge of a rebuild and he wont fit that time frame. In the past he's been traded for peanuts. He might fetch a 1st but maybe he can be gotten for less.

Trotz has stated that he will be treated as though he had trade protection. So not coming here, even if he is moved.