Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Flair Hay]

What does do Laughton do different than Gus does?

 

[Buffdog]

What does do Laughton do different than Gus does?

Scores at 3X the rate

 

[voyageur]

What does do Laughton do different than Gus does?

The easy answer is score more. He's also tougher.

 

[voyageur]

I'd be leaving the top 9 as is and use Laughton as a 4C that can move up if need be. I think having him there may help Iafallo provide some more depth offense.

I'd go Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers with Samberg-Pionk driving offense from hard matchups.

Laughton-Namestnikov-Perfetti, more edge than what Ehlers brings to that line. I'd still play Ehlers with the bigger physical players come playoffs.

Nino is in a bit of a funk. But he's a guy Arny can trust on board battles in the defensive zone. Kupari brings the speed.

Appleton has to play better. But a Barron/Appleton matchup for the final roster spot would be a good battle. and some depth. Both are trusted with d-zone starts. Gustafsson knows his role as a depth center. He's accepted it, and that's a good team player. I think you have Ford and Lambert as options at RW too, so that could be the last add up front, unless you get a future considerations deal.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

What does do Laughton do different than Gus does?

Slightly smaller and skates slower
Scores more
Gets PP1 time somehow
Worse FO% and corsi
Anchors PK thats worse than the Jets
More vocal about LGBTQ rights

I'd go Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers with Samberg-Pionk driving offense from hard matchups.

Laughton-Namestnikov-Perfetti, more edge than what Ehlers brings to that line. I'd still play Ehlers with the bigger physical players come playoffs.

Nino is in a bit of a funk. But he's a guy Arny can trust on board battles in the defensive zone. Kupari brings the speed.

Appleton has to play better. But a Barron/Appleton matchup for the final roster spot would be a good battle. and some depth. Both are trusted with d-zone starts. Gustafsson knows his role as a depth center. He's accepted it, and that's a good team player. I think you have Ford and Lambert as options at RW too, so that could be the last add up front, unless you get a future considerations deal.

Laughton-Names-Perfetti will get destroyed in the playoffs. No size and no speed.

 

[bustamente]

Chevy needs to stay away from guys on the back half of their careers, if you do a trade get a guy with speed and some scoring touch, wont be a easy find if any are even available and want to come here

 

[Turin]

Laughton imo is not the play at all. Schenn, Nelson and Mittelstadt could theoretically be an upgrade on Namestnikov at 2C but I think Names is a genuinely better player than Laughton.

 

[gojetsgo]

Laughton imo is not the play at all. Schenn, Nelson and Mittelstadt could theoretically be an upgrade on Namestnikov at 2C but I think Names is a genuinely better player than Laughton.

imo the only reason to go after laughton is for injury insurance, probably run the same top 9 centers with scheif/lowry/names and having him just incase one goes down over kup/gus

 

[tbcwpg]

Chevy needs to stay away from guys on the back half of their careers, if you do a trade get a guy with speed and some scoring touch, wont be a easy find if any are even available and want to come here

I think the NTC stuff is much less relevant when it comes to deadline deals, especially for pending UFAs. It's a couple of months in a Cup race, compared to 5 more full seasons. But scoring will be much harder to find.

Laughton I'm not super excited about if he comes but I think this team just could use depth mostly.

 

[Hunter368]

imo the only reason to go after laughton is for injury insurance, probably run the same top 9 centers with scheif/lowry/names and having him just incase one goes down over kup/gus

Exactly

He’s not a real top 6 forward, Chevy isn’t messing with the 3rd line chemistry once Lowry is back, so that makes him a upgrade over Gus or Kul on the 4th line assuming Names is replaced at 2C by a trade and is bumped down to 4C.

So Laughton becomes a 4th liner and a injury replacement higher in the lineup if needed

 

[voyageur]

Exactly

He’s not a real top 6 forward, Chevy isn’t messing with the 3rd line chemistry once Lowry is back, so that makes him a upgrade over Gus or Kul on the 4th line assuming Names is replaced at 2C by a trade and is bumped down to 4C.

So Laughton becomes a 4th liner and a injury replacement higher in the lineup if needed

I think that's the wrong view. Sorry. At some point there has to be a discussion about Adam Lowry playing #2 minutes. He's been with the franchise since day 1.

Then you look at Namestnikov's success vs 3rd and 4th lines.

Then you look at zone time for line 4. Special teams.

What you want as a coach is versatility.

Some hockey players think Laughton is capable 2-4. With more than one year on his contract that's worth something especially knowing Iafallo is going to be rewarded as one of those guys. Same way Copp was.

Leadership. I like more Canadian leadership. For playoffs.

Think the dressing room core would be asked about players they know around the league to see if any trade is a good fit.

That's the way I think the team is built.

 

[Gm0ney]

Chevy needs to stay away from guys on the back half of their careers, if you do a trade get a guy with speed and some scoring touch, wont be a easy find if any are even available and want to come here

There's a pretty small window between RFA and "back half of their career", but that's usually who Chevy seems to target. Namestnikov, Niederreiter, Monahan, Eakin, Hayes were all in their late 20s.

 

[Hunter368]

I think that's the wrong view. Sorry. At some point there has to be a discussion about Adam Lowry playing #2 minutes. He's been with the franchise since day 1.

Then you look at Namestnikov's success vs 3rd and 4th lines.

Then you look at zone time for line 4. Special teams.

What you want as a coach is versatility.

Some hockey players think Laughton is capable 2-4. With more than one year on his contract that's worth something especially knowing Iafallo is going to be rewarded as one of those guys. Same way Copp was.

Leadership. I like more Canadian leadership. For playoffs.

Think the dressing room core would be asked about players they know around the league to see if any trade is a good fit.

That's the way I think the team is built.

Nothing you said contradicts what I said, you’re just leaning one way and I’m leaning the other way.

Laughton is a solid player, never said otherwise but he’s not a true top 6 centre, neither is Lowry or Names IMO as least on a cup winning team.

Laughton can slide up and down the lineup to fill injuries, but if the team is fully healthy I don’t see where he plays in the top 9 as I stated before. This assumes Chevy upgrades the 2C to a true 2C and not play Lowry, Names or Laughton there which all are better suited to bottom six roles on a cup team.

Lowry has been given chances multiple times at 2C for periods of time and never worked out long term. Lowry is my favourite player on the team, I love him but he’s not a true 2c

 

[DRW204]

In what way is Laughton an upgrade on Namestnikov, Kupari or even Gus? He's not going to unlock more offense from Ehlers and Perfetti, so at best he adds a bit more depth. This could actually make the Jets worse if they demote Namestnikov and Gus / Kupari to squeeze Laughton into the top-6.

Kupari over Laughton. Really.

I think that's the wrong view. Sorry. At some point there has to be a discussion about Adam Lowry playing #2 minutes. He's been with the franchise since day 1.

Then you look at Namestnikov's success vs 3rd and 4th lines.

Then you look at zone time for line 4. Special teams.

What you want as a coach is versatility.

Some hockey players think Laughton is capable 2-4. With more than one year on his contract that's worth something especially knowing Iafallo is going to be rewarded as one of those guys. Same way Copp was.

Leadership. I like more Canadian leadership. For playoffs.

Think the dressing room core would be asked about players they know around the league to see if any trade is a good fit.

That's the way I think the team is built.

This team has been better as of late without Lowry

 

[voyageur]

Kupari over Laughton. Really.


This team has been better as of late without Lowry

That's good news going down the stretch. Adam Lowry usually has a positive impact on the game. Physicality in matchups. Defensive zone faceoffs. Penalty kill.

 

[voyageur]

Nothing you said contradicts what I said, you’re just leaning one way and I’m leaning the other way.

Laughton is a solid player, never said otherwise but he’s not a true top 6 centre, neither is Lowry or Names IMO as least on a cup winning team.

Laughton can slide up and down the lineup to fill injuries, but if the team is fully healthy I don’t see where he plays in the top 9 as I stated before. This assumes Chevy upgrades the 2C to a true 2C and not play Lowry, Names or Laughton there which all are better suited to bottom six roles on a cup team.

Lowry has been given chances multiple times at 2C for periods of time and never worked out long term. Lowry is my favourite player on the team, I love him but he’s not a true 2c

Yet he still scores well, measured against other 2Cs. Other than the Oilers, and Lowry matches up on Mc David physically, who does Lowry look underwhelmed against this year?

I'm interested to see after break if tide has turned on Appleton knocking him down the lineup. Or if Arniel goes back to traditional 3rd line. Might stick with what is working. Maybe that's spot to upgrade though. And just make current 3rd line the 4th line.

 

[surixon]

I think that's the wrong view. Sorry. At some point there has to be a discussion about Adam Lowry playing #2 minutes. He's been with the franchise since day 1.

Then you look at Namestnikov's success vs 3rd and 4th lines.

Then you look at zone time for line 4. Special teams.

What you want as a coach is versatility.

Some hockey players think Laughton is capable 2-4. With more than one year on his contract that's worth something especially knowing Iafallo is going to be rewarded as one of those guys. Same way Copp was.

Leadership. I like more Canadian leadership. For playoffs.

Think the dressing room core would be asked about players they know around the league to see if any trade is a good fit.

That's the way I think the team is built.

I think if you want a real strong multifaceted top 9 then Laughten is probably not the player you target for that.

I think he's a capable 4th line vet on a contender that can play up if need be. I wouldn't be bringing him in to be an every day top 9 player.

I'd be going hard after Brayden Schenn if the goal is to create three balanced scoring lines.

CsV
Fly Lowry Iafallo/Namestnikov
Nino Schenn Perfetti
Barron Kupari Apples

 

[bustamente]

Habs fans are beside themselves that winning streak gave them false hopes for the playoffs, knives are out for Laine, maybe they become sellers as the deadline gets closer

 

[voyageur]

I think if you want a real strong multifaceted top 9 then Laughten is probably not the player you target for that.

I think he's a capable 4th line vet on a contender that can play up if need be. I wouldn't be bringing him in to be an every day top 9 player.

I'd be going hard after Brayden Schenn if the goal is to create three balanced scoring lines.

CsV
Fly Lowry Iafallo/Namestnikov
Nino Schenn Perfetti
Barron Kupari Apples

It's not a disagreement I want to get bogged down in.

But I think the mistake is changing the C depth to slower players. That's a noticeable impact in the way Arniel has changed the team...there's really good speed from Lowry, Namestnikov and Kupari. Scheifele is not a muffin either.

I think the question is are Ehlers and Perfetti built for the playoffs and how do they get optimized. Laughton being able to play all 3 positions is like Copp. And that's a kind of role I could see being coveted. Especially d-zone responsibility

Leafs can have Schenn, but watch the LTIR now. Won't be Stone this year because he's playing for Team Canada now. Karlsson is likely the one. Dallas is going to use LTIR to their favour.

 

[Dirtbag151]

I've been quite surprised by Kupari...nothing flashy ...hands of stone but physical fast and aggressive and defensively sound

 

[Buffdog]

Habs fans are beside themselves that winning streak gave them false hopes for the playoffs, knives are out for Laine, maybe they become sellers as the deadline gets closer

I think Dach was the ask in the PLD trade... I wonder if Chevy circles back

Not sure what the cost would be though

 

[bustamente]

I've been quite surprised by Kupari...nothing flashy ...hands of stone but physical fast and aggressive and defensively sound

Him and Salo could become the cherries on the fleecing cake.

 

[surixon]

It's not a disagreement I want to get bogged down in.

But I think the mistake is changing the C depth to slower players. That's a noticeable impact in the way Arniel has changed the team...there's really good speed from Lowry, Namestnikov and Kupari. Scheifele is not a muffin either.

I think the question is are Ehlers and Perfetti built for the playoffs and how do they get optimized. Laughton being able to play all 3 positions is like Copp. And that's a kind of role I could see being coveted. Especially d-zone responsibility

Leafs can have Schenn, but watch the LTIR now. Won't be Stone this year because he's playing for Team Canada now. Karlsson is likely the one. Dallas is going to use LTIR to their favour.

What's Schenn's skating like these days. He definitely used to have above average speed but I haven't really watched him this year.

Edit: According to NHL EDGE it's still well above average so we wouldn't lose speed with him at C.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

I think that's the wrong view. Sorry. At some point there has to be a discussion about Adam Lowry playing #2 minutes. He's been with the franchise since day 1.

Then you look at Namestnikov's success vs 3rd and 4th lines.

Then you look at zone time for line 4. Special teams.

What you want as a coach is versatility.

Some hockey players think Laughton is capable 2-4. With more than one year on his contract that's worth something especially knowing Iafallo is going to be rewarded as one of those guys. Same way Copp was.

Leadership. I like more Canadian leadership. For playoffs.

Think the dressing room core would be asked about players they know around the league to see if any trade is a good fit.

That's the way I think the team is built.

Why on earth would you replace kupari on line 3 then...

 

[Hunter368]

I think if you want a real strong multifaceted top 9 then Laughten is probably not the player you target for that.

I think he's a capable 4th line vet on a contender that can play up if need be. I wouldn't be bringing him in to be an every day top 9 player.

I'd be going hard after Brayden Schenn if the goal is to create three balanced scoring lines.

CsV
Fly Lowry Iafallo/Namestnikov
Nino Schenn Perfetti
Barron Kupari Apples

Agreed, I like Laughton just not as a 2C and I don’t want Lowry or Names at 2C either for a deep playoff run.