Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[gojetsgo]

Well I guess by upgrade the third pairing I mean bring in a top 4 dmen to anchor it. I want a quality player in that spot and that will cost assets. We have enough bottom pairing dmen already. That's not what I'm looking for.

Yes Names isn't a legit second line center but I haven't seen a name mentioned as being available that would be a significant upgrade. Who are your targets? Maybe you've heard some names that I haven't.

nelson + o'reilly could be available they would be massive upgrades, idk who else would be available, not like I can call up gm's and see what they have...

 

[surixon]

nelson + o'reilly could be available they would be massive upgrades, idk who else would be available, not like I can call up gm's and see what they have...

Two solid suggestions. Both teams are still in mix for a playoff spot atm so no idea what their respective GMs will do heading towards the deadline.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

So if you had to pick one area of the pp they are weaker what would you say? I’d say lack of tipped goals is the closest to a weakness.

You think the PP isn't good enough? Its epic. But entries could still be better.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

My main target right now would probably be Risto. He's got size and has simplified his game with Torts.

Not like he can't move the puck in a pinch either, he was a 40 point PP quarterback early on in his buffalo days

 

[Buffdog]

nelson + o'reilly could be available they would be massive upgrades, idk who else would be available, not like I can call up gm's and see what they have...

From what Preds fans said (FWIW) when I floated an ROR to Winnipeg thread on the main boards is that Trotz wouldn't move him without his OK, even without trade protection

Maybe if he wants to chase a cup again for a few months as apending UFA sometime, but I don't see the guy wanting to uproot his family to Winnipeg at this point in his career

 

[bustamente]

Some of these guys don't want to play or live in Canada anymore I think ROR is one of them

 

[WiscoJet]

If you can't get either O'Reilly or Nelson I would save my trade ammo to get a D-Man.

O'Reilly-Would be a great acquisition for the Jets current window.

Nelson-Most of the time I would just assume a player of his stature wouldn't accept a trade here but I think our chances are better than we think with him growing up in small town northern Minnesota.

Defense-I don't care what way this potential acquisition shoots just get the best d-man you can find because in my opinion you can upgrade the third pair. I love DeMelo and the Jets had a bevy of problems vs. the Avalanche last year but the Avalanche exposed our D last year. I don't think every team can do that to us but still if we can find a physical puck mover it would be ideal.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I think if you checked around the league most players not on their respecrive teams top lines and top pp units are streaky as they don't get the prime offensive minutes.

But if we can find a quality two way top 6 center to push Name down then I'm fine with it provided the player has some quickness. Not really sure who is available that would be a big enough upgrade to justify spending a 1st at this point.

I think the third pairing is more of a need in terms of being able to absorb a forecheck and move the puck efficiently.

Pity Lowry got injured as they were still auditioning him for 2c.

 

[WiscoJet]

Some of these guys don't want to play or live in Canada anymore I think ROR is one of them

ROR doesn't have a choice. He doesn't have any trade protections.

 

[Adam da bomb]

You think the PP isn't good enough? Its epic. But entries could still be better.

No one said good enough. I said better, based on someone mentioning how pp grew from last year.

 

[bustamente]

ROR doesn't have a choice. He doesn't have any trade protections.

You really want a guy that would be unhappy to be here in our room, he had a chance to re sign with the Leafs and he fled to Nashville

 

[Buffdog]

ROR doesn't have a choice. He doesn't have any trade protections.

If you're Trotz, good luck singing in any UFAs if you have a reputation of trading them to a market like Winnipeg without consulting with them first

 

[10Ducky10]

My main target right now would probably be Risto. He's got size and has simplified his game with Torts.

Not like he can't move the puck in a pinch either, he was a 40 point PP quarterback early on in his buffalo days

He was a freaking mess in his Buffalo days.

 

[surixon]

You really want a guy that would be unhappy to be here in our room, he had a chance to re sign with the Leafs and he fled to Nashville

We've seen how that has worked out for us with guys like Eakin, Hayes, and that winger we brought in last year.

If O'Reilly is game and excited to come here for a run then great. But if he's pissed to be traded here then I want no part in it.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Tend to agree.





In 2017-18, we traded a 1st for Stats and a 4th for Smokin' Joe Morrow.


Stats was great.





In 2018-19, we spent a 1st and condtional 4th on Hayes, and got rid of Lemieux. PoMo played Hayes like he couldn't stand the guy, and while the big man scored at a decent clip, his key contribution was to help out the Blues with a key save.


We also spent a 6th on Beaulieu, a decision that would haunt Jets D prospects and HFBoards posters for years to come, and 7ths on Sunshine Matt Hendrricks and some guy called Kielsevich who never played.





2019-20 saw some Chevy brilliance with the Trouba and DeMelo trades, a nice bit of bookkepping with a 5th for Hayes, and headscratcher with Cody Eakin for a 4th -- Eakin played like a guy who couldn't wait for the season to end so he could hop the next plane outa town, and the Jets limped into the playoffs, and never took off.

In 20-21, Stats came back home for a 4th, and did what he could, though he wasn't quite the same player and the Jets weren't the same team. Jordie Benn brought that "big body" and minimal skillz, and tried to hit some guys for a 6th.

21-22 was a busy year. We paid a pair of 2nds for Dillon (good) and a 3rd and a whole lot of cap space for Schmitty (less good), blew a 5th on Zach Sanford, who was Cody Eakin 2.0, with even less skill and even less desire to be here, and finally got someone to take Beaulieu off our paws. And, of course, The Great Copp Trade, the jewel in Chevy's crown.

22-23 brought in Names and Niederreiter for a second and some magic beans, galvanizing the team D. No big splashes, no deep PO run, but some nice foundational pieces going forward, both great value adds.

23-24 exit PLD and enter a haul of talent in GV, AI, RK and a 2024 2nd. Brilliant!
Then a 4th for vet who would barely play in Doghouse Miller, and a 1st for SeanMon, who brought some stability and veteran nous to the 2nd line and PP, whilst playing at a gentle stroll, and (more controversially) a deadline deal for TT, who cost a 2nd and 3rd, adding some goals and not much else. The team got a bit scorier and quite a bit slower, and showed little pushback (or tactics, or flexibility) in a PO rout.

Thus far we have Coughlan, 2025's Colin Miller, and nothing else. History seems to show that Chevy does well in the offseason and in-season but hasn't been lights-out at the TDL, where we shed 3 1sts for Stats (great), Hayes (bad) and Monahan (good and not so good), and never quite solved the 2C puzzle.

We also have some inexpensive assets outperforming their asks in Nino and Names, a solid D in Samberg, and a youngster in Kupari who isn't scoring a ton but is a strong plus player elsewhere. Given how tight the Jets room is, as ShutupSawyer reminds us 35x per game, is it worth shipping out another 1st/ + for a few games of Player X, or does Chevy look to add strong depth and/ or sneaky good players like Names and Nino, who might be a better fit? Do we need a great, good, or competent C for Perfetti and Ehlers? Does Ehlers go?

Stats v 1.0 was a perfect add -- fit the playstyle, made linemates better, helped out in the room. Not sure we've gotten close since then, and this may be the best team since 2017-18. It's a tough ask.

My tuppence -- fit / complementarity above all else.

That was good.

 

[bustamente]

We've seen how that has worked out for us with guys like Eakin, Hayes, and that winger we brought in last year.

If O'Reilly is game and excited to come here for a run then great. But if he's pissed to be traded here then I want no part in it.

It wouldn't be just for the playoff run he has 2 more years left on his contract. He picked where he pretty well wanted to end his career

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

My bet is Chevy waits until deadline day and grabs a top 6 veteran forward from a team that is on the bubble.
And a veteran D.

 

[WolfgangPuck]

The other playoff teams are starting to load up
I expect Chevy to make a deal to improve
I think we need a scoring center and more depth for D

 

[Bob E]

ROR doesn't have a choice. He doesn't have any trade protections.

Trotz is on record saying he’d treat ROR as if he does have trade protection. So he would have to agree to the move. Now he might agree to come to Winnipeg, based on role and cup chances, but he’ll be the one making that decision.

 

[voyageur]

The other playoff teams are starting to load up
I expect Chevy to make a deal to improve
I think we need a scoring center and more depth for D

It sounds strange to say the #1 scoring team in the league needs more scoring. This has probably been the best 3 line hockey the Jets have played in a great while. A lot of it has to do with a change in style to protect the puck more, and having d-men who can consistently jump into the play.

Bowness started it but I feel like Scotty has fine tuned it, especially the grinding part.

I'd say a PKing d-man has to be a top priority, because the Jets took a real hit without Sammy. And having that guy frees up Morrissey to be more effective 5 on 5.

I think the Jets need another center. But I'm still not sure who comes out as center. Take Namestnikov out and you lose speed. Unless you find a skater as good as him, and that's not easy. Bump Namestnikov down and take Kupari out and you lose your secondary defensive line, that can take the RH draws. The momentum shifts that have worked to keep teams in their own end. Namestnikov isn't that player, but he's real smart with the puck.

The only thing that I guess has to worry all of us, is the results we're seeing now are a mirage, that can disappear in the playoffs.

That's Chevy's call though...Jets lost a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th round pick in varying years for 5 playoff games. And retained only the player acquired for the lowest draft pick out of them.

If Ehlers is an own rental, there's going to be a big hole to fill, and no assets left to make offseason trades if Chevy trades them all, so I'm interested to see how he moves.

I still think Ryan Lindgren might be on the Jets radar, because there is a chance to re-sign a guy like that.

But after winning streaks and losing streaks, I'm not guessing who is coming out of the East for Wild Cards.
And who is selling at the deadline. I am inclined to believe Detroit gets in, but I've been wrong a lot on a lot of these teams.

Columbus with Provorov will have to make a tough decision. Fabbro probably has some value now. I see Mateychuk is already up there.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

I think the Jets need another center. But I'm still not sure who comes out as center. Take Namestnikov out and you lose speed. Unless you find a skater as good as him, and that's not easy. Bump Namestnikov down and take Kupari out and you lose your secondary defensive line, that can take the RH draws. The momentum shifts that have worked to keep teams in their own end. Namestnikov isn't that player, but he's real smart with the puck.

I would just keep Kup at centre and run Vladdy at wing, he doesn't need to be driving the fourth line, of course that bumps Gus out of the line up and he has been good lately so that's another problem.

I am still clearly in favor of a 2C upgrade though, we just can't be going into the playoffs with Vlad as our 2C, that's not a recipe for success, we will need both our top lines scoring consistently and that is not gonna happen with Vlad driving that line.

 

[voyageur]

I would just keep Kup at centre and run Vladdy at wing, he doesn't need to be driving the fourth line, of course that bumps Gus out of the line up and he has been good lately so that's another problem.

I am still clearly in favor of a 2C upgrade though, we just can't be going into the playoffs with Vlad as our 2C, that's not a recipe for success, we will need both our top lines scoring consistently and that is not gonna happen with Vlad driving that line.

That would probably knock Barron out of the lineup who is the most physical 4th line player. Also a better Pker than Vlad or Kupari. Tough choices.

It's also worth noting that even with Perfetti on a bit of a heater, he's still 4 points behind Lowry for ES scoring. So maybe it's not Vlad driving the 2nd line if Arniel goes back to what worked against Colorado

Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers, with Samberg and Iafallo's college teammate, Pionk, in the shutdown.
Nino-Namestnikov-Perfetti (2nd scoring line)
Barron-Kupari-Appleton (2nd defensive line)

And you match up Ehlers against Heiskanen/Makar instead of Appleton on what has been the better scoring line this year. Minus the 5 point edge Ehlers has on Lowry in ES scoring.

Takes the risk out of putting Perfetti in the top 6 and finding the perfect center for him and Ehlers, since +17 isn't a satisfactory result here.