If Pionk can produce away from Samberg (and carry another pairing) then I MIGHT be open to paying him, but Samberg is doing a ton of heavy lifting right now it appears
Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread
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He and Perfetti are scoring at a very similar pace. Perfetti is 1 year younger and appears to be improving at least a little. Cozens appears to be regressing and is way overpaid for his production.
OTOH, Cozens has size and he is a C. Cozens straight up for Perfetti would be a gamble but I could see a willingness to try it. I certainly would not add to Perfetti though. Considering development arcs and contracts it is already an overpay justified by the hope Cozens can be turned around.
Perfetti is a smart player and a tryer. His compete level is high. I wouldn't trade him too easily.
Top 4 upgrades at RHD are almost impossible to make. In terms of pending RHD UFAs, Pionk is probably in the top couple available if we were selling. What is your target outside of rentals who look pretty thin.
BobTheSolarsystem
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I look at guys like that and ask why we wouldn't just try Gus or Kupari higher up in the lineup...
raideralex99
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Vilardi worth $8.5 million?
From $3.5 to 8.5 is a big jump when he has yet to play more than 65 games or score more than 25 goals in a season.
But if the Jets do pay Vilardi $8.5 ... Ehlers $8.5 ... they can't afford to pay Connor unless there's a huge jump in SC. I heard announcement coming during 4 nations break.
Maybe that's why its quiet on the signings front ... Chevy trying to get everyone to agree so he can crunch the numbers and keep the Jets contenders for years to come.
Remember how long it took Laine to sign and the next day Connor signed. Hellebuyck and Scheifele signing on the same day too.
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A bonafide 2C? Yes
CSV
Perfetti - xxx - Ehlers
Nino - Lowry - Apples
Barron - Names - Iafallo
Gus, Kupari
We currently have Lowry and Barron on IR so Gus and Kupari both play and we need that new player more than ever.
If that xxx is Barzal I think I would swap Nino and Perfetti on that list.
People are willing to sell the farm for the rest of the season and 2 more for Hughes?
I'd go after Weegar/Andersson and Cozens.
I'd go after Weegar/Andersson and Cozens.
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Jonathon Kovacevic is the top available RHD just because he's 6'4... not to beat a dead horse
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Go look at the cap dude, with the estimated jump (at this point) in SC we can afford all three no problems.
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I'm not sure you go into a playoff roster with a 6 pt player in the top 9, and Gus in his 4 game point streak now has 4 points in 20 games. So that's probably why. Outscoring Nino in the same role probably puts him at least at that level.
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give your ego and attitude a f***ing break. i asked what an offer would look like…
you basically said “nononono never can’t won’t…you are an idiot for even talking about it”Thanks that’s a great mature conversation….
why bother even being on a chat board if that’s how you”discuss things”?
where do i ever say “we have the best prospect pool” or nobody could beat our offer? ever. point it out.
I said we had assets cap space and we’re in a position where making an offer makes sense.
it’s an offer to a team who needs prospects, picks and an NHL ready or near ready players in return… for an NMC player who wants to go to a contender……
i said we had a decent prospect pool and you underrated them.
you seem to know exactly what all 32 teams have and will offer for him so go ahead tell me what the exact deal for him will be which contender? which package….
i’ll wait.
while your doing that amazing prognostication
i’ll remind of the past
times when the Jets were screwed and there was no good trades to make…. Trouba, Laine, PLD.
Chevy has worked magic before… but yeah this time? no way it’s impossible.
let’s just burn the arena sell the team and start a crokinole league instead.
again i was asking a question on a chat board…. How dare I
BobTheSolarsystem
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I mean I just dont see what Laughton offers... I think if you play Kupari or Gus in that same scenario they also make it to 30 points a season - Laughton's peak point seasons I think he was on their powerplay
Im sticking with Copp as the most realistic add
gojetsgo
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holy shit people get soo offended on this site when you tell them no on their fantasy land trade proposals...give your ego and attitude a f***ing break. i asked what an offer would look like…
you basically said “nononono never can’t won’t…you are an idiot for even talking about it”Thanks that’s a great mature conversation….
why bother even being on a chat board if that’s how you”discuss things”?
where do i ever say “we have the best prospect pool” or nobody could beat our offer? ever. point it out.
I said we had assets cap space and we’re in a position where making an offer makes sense.
it’s an offer to a team who needs prospects, picks and an NHL ready or near ready players in return… for an NMC player who wants to go to a contender……
i said we had a decent prospect pool and you underrated them.
you seem to know exactly what all 32 teams have and will offer for him so go ahead tell me what the exact deal for him will be which contender? which package….
i’ll wait.
while your doing that amazing prognostication
i’ll remind of the past
times when the Jets were screwed and there was no good trades to make…. Trouba, Laine, PLD.
Chevy has worked magic before… but yeah this time? no way it’s impossible.
let’s just burn the arena sell the team and start a crokinole league instead.
again i was asking a question on a chat board…. How dare I
Skidooboy
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holy shit i never even made a proposal
i asked what one would look like
holy shit people on this board get mad when you say
“ I think you underestimate the quality of our prospects”
gojetsgo
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I didn't get offended, I think you overrate them because teams can easily offer better prospects for hughes and that sent you off the deep end lol
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23 ES points is 5 less than Ehlers, 17 more than Kupari.
I'm not convinced these boards can identify a good middle 6 player, only elite talent that they feel the Jets need as the top scoring team in the league and 2nd best defensively, but a team that would like some more 5 on 5 scoring, and some PK help realistically. But you've at least gone back into the past. to find a good one, who should be the standard for Adam Lowry's next contract. I think Detroit makes the playoffs so I'd say they add, and don't subtract.
raideralex99
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Bettman already said last month the estimates are too high and had no idea where those numbers came from but we will see.
Other than the Leafs no team pays 4 forwards more than $8M a season but hey if you want to load up on offence expect your defence to sign and play a lot of bottom 6 and AHL D men.
Skidooboy
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no you just acted like a know it all shutting down all conversation on a thread about rumors speculation….
and i called you on it.
you strawmaned up a “lowball offer” that i never made
so go tell other people that discussion on a chat board is finished by your decree and move on
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I hope if they re-sign Pionk the term is not more than 5 years, I could live with that if it gets Samberg to re-sign for at least 5 years as well. I figure for at least 3 of those years the Jets should be good with those 2 on defense, there is home built chemistry, and after than Morrissey and De Melo are up for renegotiation, so that's probably the window I'd have before this team ages out.
gojetsgo
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all I've said is we don't have the prospects to get quinn hughes and other teams can beat our offers... and called you our for thinking that hughes will get less because he asked for a trade like other fans did when we were forced to trade pld...
Only 4 Jets in negative territory - and not by much:
Iafallo -$0.8M
Pionk -$0.3M
Kupari -$0.2M
Barron -$0.1M
Here's the link btw: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6048285/2025/01/29/nhl-player-cards-central/
Skidooboy
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where did i ever say “less”
you put an offer i never made in my mouth.
you’ve been putting lots of words on my mouth….
i asked a question said we had assets and reminded you he has an NMC and wants to go to a contender.
i stated you undervalued our prospects…
i never named a single name,l or a pick….
i asked what i might look like.
where is this fantasy lowball dumb idea i had? quote it… should be easy.
“Jets have the best prospect pool”
“Vancouver will take less”
you quote my posts where i said either of this things….
gojetsgo
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when somebody says we don't have the prospects to get quinn hughes and one of your counter arguments is "he wants out and doesn't want to be in a rebuild" what do you think that implies?
it doesn't matter if you didn't name the prospects, we know who our top prospects are and none of them are good enough to be the center piece of a quinn hughes deal and vancouver isn't going to accept a package of prospects who rate as middle of the line up players if they even end up making it
anyways I'm done with this useless conversation, if you think we have the prospects to pull this off it shouldn't be hard to come up with an actual offer that you can go post on the main boards to gage the response
