Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Gil Fisher]

I'd be into a Pionk extension at $5.5 million for 3 or 4 years.

 

[Gil Fisher]

The 4th, 5th and 6th best players in the division (excluding goaltenders). (Dom's model via The Athletic.)

Edit: Gabe and Nicolaj are 16th and 17th and Dom's model says they're worth $8.5m and $8.4m p.a.

 

[Jets 31]

I'm still on the Barzal train.

 

[Flair Hay]

The 4th, 5th and 6th best players in the conference (excluding goaltenders). (Dom's model via The Athletic.)

Edit: Gabe and Nicolaj are 16th and 17th and Dom's model says they're worth $8.5m and $8.4m p.a.

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I'm guessing this one is our division, but awesome nonetheless

 

[voyageur]

The appeal with Cozens is he finally figures it out and plays like a modern-day Trevor Linden in the 1994 SC playoffs. Linden had a few good 70-80 pt seasons in his prime, in a different era, but Cozens has some development to do to get to that level consistently.

The balance of Linden's career was role playing production (nothing spectacular) which is the vibe I get from Cozens. At his peak, Cozens could be a 65-70 pt player with size, speed and some grit, but for most of his career he'll be a serviceable role player scoring 40 pts or less.

I'm not against trading for Cozens, though I for one have lower expectations as to what he turns into as a player.

I think Trevor Linden was a stud from season one when he led a weak Canucks team to almost upset the Stanley Cup champions in the 1st round of 1989. Then he brought back the Canucks in game 7 of the Stanley Cup final with a SH goal and two goal game. I think of Brian Burke talking about how he missed his pre-draft testing because he was branding cows.

Then there is Doug Mac Lean saying that Cozens is like another Casey Middlestadt.

I just look at the way that this whole core is built, from the draft. A couple of good offseason trades of guys who wanted out, and some lower cost rentals at the deadline, like Melo, Nino and Namestnikov, who stuck around.

I just don't see the Jets having the competing assets for big ticket long term players like Cozens, or Barzal, or Pettersson, or whoever.

I think there may be some interesting names that come out at the deadline.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I'm guessing this one is our division, but awesome nonetheless

yes. was thinking division and somehow typed conference.

 

[Flair Hay]

I'd be into a Pionk extension at $5.5 million for 3 or 4 years.

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He is performing around his contract level this year which is a big plus. We needed him to step back up and he has. If the cost is reasonable I'm becoming more open to bringing him back

 

[scarbrow]

we have nothing to offer vancouver for hughes and even if we did it would be highly unlikely he would sign here when his contract is up anyways

That's a deal you move Perfetti in as a base.
Perfetti+ Yager/Lambert + 1st 25 + Salomonsson + 2nd
for
Hughes

If you need another asset in there you do it. This year plus 2 more of
Morrisey-Demelo
Samberg - Hughes
Is SC caliber D. Move Hughes up with Morrosey when you need to take over a game.

 

[gojetsgo]

That's a deal you move Perfetti in as a base.
Perfetti+ Yager/Lambert + 1st 25 + Salomonsson + 2nd
for
Hughes

If you need another asset in there you do it. This year plus 2 more of
Morrisey-Demelo
Samberg - Hughes
Is SC caliber D. Move Hughes up with Morrosey when you need to take over a game.

and why would vancouver accept that?

 

[Skidooboy]

we have nothing to offer vancouver for hughes and even if we did it would be highly unlikely he would sign here when his contract is up anyways

so...as I stated it's a Win Now, sell the future deal...Jets get 2 years of Cup Window top Dman

and again.. Van is talking rebuild...they want futures. picks and prospects and ELC/RFA

they can't expect or probably even need a "replacement".

They need pieces to rebuild with.... we have some pretty decent ones...and the picks to package them with.

 

[gojetsgo]

so...as I stated it's a Win Now, sell the future deal...Jets get 2 years of Cup Window top Dman

and again.. Van is talking rebuild...they want futures. picks and prospects and ELC/RFA

they can't expect or probably eve need a "replacement" they need pieces to rebuild with....

they will want high end prospects... we don't have those... my lord people love to overrate our prospects around here, we have nothing in the pipeline that would interest vancouver to trade us their captain who is in the running for the hart...

 

[Skidooboy]

they will want high end prospects... we don't have those... my lord people love to overrate our prospects around here, we have nothing in the pipeline that would interest vancouver to trade us their captain who is in the running for the hart...

1. I think you underestimate the value of our ELC/RFA group
2. Picks picks and more picks
3....you get that he's basically said he wants out. the team is self destructing and it sounds like mgmt is already talking REBUILD right....

it's not whether they want oa trade...it's that they need a trade and the player wants out....

 

[gojetsgo]

1. I think you underestimate the value of our ELC/RFA group
2. Picks picks and more picks
3....you get that he's basically said he wants out. the team is self destructing and it sounds like mgmt is already talking REBUILD right....

it's not whether they want oa trade...it's that they need a trade and the player wants out....

I think you underestimate how many teams can beat our best offer lol

also you are sound like all the fans the low balled us for pld because he wanted out... like he is in the running for the hart... it's going to take a massive offer to get him out of vancouver

 

[Skidooboy]

I think you underestimate how many teams can beat our best offer lol

well I overestimated your ability to have a rational discussion ..on a hockey discussion board.....

 

[KingBogo]

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Lowry would be fine with another high scoring winger along with Ehlers, Tuch ain't happening though, he already said he doesn't want to move and their GM confirmed he wouldn't move him.


Yeah Hughes is never coming to Winnipeg, can forget even thinking about that.

Hughes would have no choice but come to Winnipeg, unless he intends to retire. He has no trade production.

 

[Adam da bomb]

The 4th, 5th and 6th best players in the division (excluding goaltenders). (Dom's model via The Athletic.)

Edit: Gabe and Nicolaj are 16th and 17th and Dom's model says they're worth $8.5m and $8.4m p.a.

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Would love to see how he reached those results putting kiril above Mack.,

I'd be into a Pionk extension at $5.5 million for 3 or 4 years.

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Not sure if that’s correct. Pionk looks shorter than 6’.

 

[gojetsgo]

well I overestimated your ability to have a rational discussion ..on a hockey discussion board.....

lol... you're right... I'm being the irrational one, because hughes wants out and winnipeg has the best prospect pool that nobody else could possibly beat our offer... give me a f***ing break

why don't you create a thread on the main boards for quinn hughes and see how that goes over if you think it's soo good

 

[KingBogo]

I'd be into a Pionk extension at $5.5 million for 3 or 4 years.

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You might get Pionk to bite on a slight raise which would put him at around $6 M, but I think it would have to be at least 5 years but probably 6.

 

[Jets 31]

Barzal for our 1st this year and next , Perfetti and if we absolutely have to, Stanley.

 

[voyageur]

I think you underestimate how many teams can beat our best offer lol

The boys on Spittin Chicklets were raving about a guy like Scott Laughton as a great pickup at the deadline.

His 23 ES points would put him behind only the top 3, Ehlers and Lowry on the Jets , his 107 hits would be higher than anyone else on the team, and his FO% is better than Vlad's., with a lot more d-zone reps. Also has better PK effectiveness. 2 years left on his contract.

For every top 6 player in the NHL identified by our board, I'm still not sure if Chevy isn't identifying middle 6 forwards.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

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Hughes would have no choice but come to Winnipeg, unless he intends to retire. He has no trade production.

Could've sworn he had NTC, guess not.

In any case I doubt the Nucks move him but if they do then you can be sure he will cost an absolute mint and we simply cannot afford to give away what they would want.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

The boys on Spittin Chicklets were raving about a guy like Scott Laughton as a great pickup at the deadline.

His 23 ES points would put him behind only the top 3, Ehlers and Lowry on the Jets , his 107 hits would be higher than anyone else on the team, and his FO% is better than Vlad's., with a lot more d-zone reps. Also has better PK effectiveness. 2 years left on his contract.

For every top 6 player in the NHL identified by our board, I'm still not sure if Chevy isn't identifying middle 6 forwards.

I pitched out Risto + Laughton a few pages back, but some guys here had analytics on Laughton that has given me some pause on that idea. Haven't seen him play much with my own eyes as he's been out east

 

[voyageur]

You might get Pionk to bite on a slight raise which would put him at around $6 M, but I think it would have to be at least 5 years but probably 6.

Pionk's numbers matchup to guys like Hanifin at 7.35 , Montour at 7.15, and considerably better than guys in bottom end of the 6s like Brodin, Pulock or Severson. I think the number is somewhere in between there. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't get Hampus Lindholm's $6.5 miillion with the Cap going up. But we'll see.

I pitched out Risto + Laughton a few pages back, but some guys here had analytics on Laughton that has given me some pause on that idea. Haven't seen him play much with my own eyes as he's been out east

Are they looking at how many d-zone starts he gets. Because analytics don't favour those guys, they favour Ehlers types. I'd say Laughton fits the bill of being interchangeable in roles with Lowry in the middle six.

 

[Gil Fisher]

You might get Pionk to bite on a slight raise which would put him at around $6 M, but I think it would have to be at least 5 years but probably 6.

Then I'd look to upgrade RHD at this deadline. Pionk's an absolute baller out there, but I think he will be a shell of himself in 3-4 years. I'd keep him around for the run to the Cup though.

 

[KingBogo]

Pionk's numbers matchup to guys like Hanifin at 7.35 , Montour at 7.15, and considerably better than guys in bottom end of the 6s like Brodin, Pulock or Severson. I think the number is somewhere in between there. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't get Hampus Lindholm's $6.5 miillion with the Cap going up. But we'll see.


Are they looking at how many d-zone starts he gets. Because analytics don't favour those guys, they favour Ehlers types. I'd say Laughton fits the bill of being interchangeable in roles with Lowry in the middle six.

You might be right, but I see Chevy and Pionk's camp coming to a number they both like. I'm guessing a little less on the AAV with a trade off on a little more term.