Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[raideralex99]

The cap does start to get tight once you round out the lineup. The Jets are likely to hold onto some of the vets you have gone.

I don't think Iafallo stays he can play top 6 on more than half the teams and someone will pay him. Apples will get more elsewhere than the Jets will offer and Names who I like but I don't think there is any room for him if the Lambert or Chibrokov make the team next year.

 

[KingBogo]

I think the asking price for Cozens wouldn't be as high as many seem to think. The Sabres tend to give letters to players that are too young and inexperienced.
If I'm trading for Cozens, I'm including DD or Pionk and making another move for Weegar or Andersson or someone of that ability.
DD, Barlow and a 2nd should do it for Cozens.

Then, use our 1st in 2025 with another highly regarded prospect and get a good RHD with some term. Weegar fits the bill and so would Andersson if you think he would re-sign.


Why do people want Byram?
He's another LHD that isn't all that good at D.

I think you are underestimating the cost for Cozens. Barlow's value has faded, GMs likely don't give him more than 3rd round value at this point. DD has a 10 team NTC and I'm guessing Bufallo's on it. Buffalo will want young roster players or ready now prospects.

 

[10Ducky10]

I think you are underestimating the cost for Cozens. Barlow's value has faded, GMs likely don't give him more than 3rd round value at this point. DD has a 10 team NTC and I'm guessing Bufallo's on it. Buffalo will want young roster players or ready now prospects.

Buffalo wants RHD that know how to play D and they would welcome DeMelo with open arms.
I may be underestimation the cost a bit but not by much.

 

[KingBogo]

I don't think Iafallo stays he can play top 6 on more than half the teams and someone will pay him. Apples will get more elsewhere than the Jets will offer and Names who I like but I don't think there is any room for him if the Lambert or Chibrokov make the team next year.

Except the Jets will want to hold on to their veteran depth even if you don't want them to.

Boston wants RHD that know how to play D and they would welcome DeMelo with open arms.
I may be underestimation the cost a bit but not by much.

I think you mean Buffalo, but even if they want DD I don't think he wants to go there.

 

[bustamente]

If your looking to trade with the Flyers a better option for a bottom six d man might be Nick Seeler pretty good contract unfortunately we are probably on his no fly zone

 

[10Ducky10]

Except the Jets will want to hold on to their veteran depth even if you don't want them to.


I think you mean Buffalo, but even if they want DD I don't think he wants to go there.

Ya, Beeffalo, too much cilantro.

Except the Jets will want to hold on to their veteran depth even if you don't want them to.


I think you mean Buffalo, but even if they want DD I don't think he wants to go there.

It doesn't have to be DD, it could be Pionk. Buffalo loves overpaying so maybe Pionk goes there on a big fat contract to play with Dahlin?

 

[KingBogo]

Ya, Beeffalo, too much cilantro.


It doesn't have to be DD, it could be Pionk. Buffalo loves overpaying so maybe Pionk goes there on a big fat contract to play with Dahlin?

If Pionk was willing to sign long term I'm sure that would interest Buffalo. Pionk gets grossly underestimated around year and actually probably holds a lot of value for Chevy. Top 4 RHD that can provide his kind of offense is a very rare commodity around the league and would be attractive to other GMs.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

I'd be nervous moving some of our core guys (who are on heaters) that are beloved in the room for underperforming buffalo Sabres.

Seems like a perfect way to disrupt a franchise best season

 

[Frank Cannon PI]

I don't think Iafallo stays he can play top 6 on more than half the teams and someone will pay him. Apples will get more elsewhere than the Jets will offer and Names who I like but I don't think there is any room for him if the Lambert or Chibrokov make the team next year.

I agree with what you're saying, I'd just add that if they Jets were to lose all 3 players for next year, I actually think we'd be in a lot of trouble; once we get to January/February of next year. I think our bottom 6 depth - and the fact that they're all playing at/near their prime (with consideration to their respective ages) - mask what is still wrong with our defensive corps.

I still think the Jets need to focus on a Top 4 defenseman over a 2nd line center right now, especially if you know that Ehlers is staying beyond this year. Our defensive problems were our most glaring in the playoffs.

I think we're spoiled with players who sort of do similar things, who are all pretty sound defensively. Specifically guys like Iafallo, Apples, Names, Barron, and Nino outside of our central players. I know I can take them for granted at times.

I'm less excited about adding future prospects to the bottom 6, though integrating 1 if fine because they'll be well insulated.

 

[Hunter368]

Chevy team still needs upgrades.

Stanley to the PB, replace him.

2C needs to be upgraded, multi options out there, get one.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Chevy team still needs upgrades.

Stanley to the PB, replace him.

2C needs to be upgraded, multi options out there, get one.

Do we need a 2c if no one stops csv? The other 3 can be defensive lines.

 

[KingBogo]

Do we need a 2c if no one stops csv? The other 3 can be defensive lines.

Except in the playoffs we will have to beat teams that can shut down good players. IMO we still need a couple pieces.

 

[Hobble]

Except in the playoffs we will have to beat teams that can shut down good players. IMO we still need a couple pieces.

Yeah, no matter how hot CSV are now, they can always be shut down over a 4-7 game series by good teams, or an unfortunate injury.

 

[gojetsgo]

Do we need a 2c if no one stops csv? The other 3 can be defensive lines.

you cannot win in this league with out secondary scoring, when this team has all lines going it's very hard to stop, we need a 2c to get that 1-2 punch and get consistent secondary scoring

 

[raideralex99]

I agree with what you're saying, I'd just add that if they Jets were to lose all 3 players for next year, I actually think we'd be in a lot of trouble; once we get to January/February of next year. I think our bottom 6 depth - and the fact that they're all playing at/near their prime (with consideration to their respective ages) - mask what is still wrong with our defensive corps.

I still think the Jets need to focus on a Top 4 defenseman over a 2nd line center right now, especially if you know that Ehlers is staying beyond this year. Our defensive problems were our most glaring in the playoffs.

I think we're spoiled with players who sort of do similar things, who are all pretty sound defensively. Specifically guys like Iafallo, Apples, Names, Barron, and Nino outside of our central players. I know I can take them for granted at times.

I'm less excited about adding future prospects to the bottom 6, though integrating 1 if fine because they'll be well insulated.

Totally agree I want a tough top 4 D man before a 2C but it is easier for Chevy to pick up bottom 6 players for cheap and turn them in gold ... same with the bottom D pairing.

 

[ello]

Cozens is great on paper - young, big mobile centre whose value is probably as low as youre going to get right now

I justttttt don't know if I really trust him to develop properly. I've never loved his hockey IQ and he's only had that one good season and it's not like he doesn't have scoring talent to play with

 

[Heldig]

I think the asking price for Cozens wouldn't be as high as many seem to think. The Sabres tend to give letters to players that are too young and inexperienced.
If I'm trading for Cozens, I'm including DD or Pionk and making another move for Weegar or Andersson or someone of that ability.
DD, Barlow and a 2nd should do it for Cozens.

Then, use our 1st in 2025 with another highly regarded prospect and get a good RHD with some term. Weegar fits the bill and so would Andersson if you think he would re-sign.


Why do people want Byram?
He's another LHD that isn't all that good at D.

Cozens makes too much money. $7.1 per is a bit rich for me. You really have to believe he can elevate his game.

 

[B33R LEAGUE]

Barzal makes 9.5 for 6 more years. He has only been more than a point per game player once in his career and that was his rookie year. This year he is barely over .5 ppg and I believe has one 5 on 5 goal the entire year.
Obviously he would help this year, but the cap hit, mixed with what you would have to give up, combined with his actually production, is not a fit for a team like the Jets. This could cripple the team for years.

All that being said I highly doubt he would waive his trade protection to come to Winnipeg to play 2nd PP and 2nd line.

As someone that watches Barzal regularly, I would pay that in a heartbeat.. Barzal on the Jets is scary.

 

[voyageur]

Chevy team still needs upgrades.

Stanley to the PB, replace him.

2C needs to be upgraded, multi options out there, get one.

It will be interesting how the team handles the 2C position.

Iafallo-Lowry-Ehlers matched up and won against Macknnon, Rantanen and Makar, that's a pretty high bar for competition. I think statistically Ehlers had a better volume of shots with Lowry than with Namestnikov.

If Lowry is the 2C, then no one is freaking out about Namestnikov, who is still a pretty solid player, I'm impressed how he controls the puck through the neutral zone, but I'd say Schmidt shooting him the face in the playoffs last year has probably made him a little more timid shot blocking, but he still goes out there and battles. He definitely has center smarts positionally to be in good support positions in the defensive zone.

I think Nieddreiter, Iafallo, Appleton are players Arniel definitely trusts in the d-zone, so if you had a more defensive oriented center you could look at moving Lowry up the lineup. Might cost a lot less than 2C hunting at the deadline.

4th line is energy and PK, and there's some option with the way the guys have been playing on that line. Will be hard to take anyone out.

Between now and the trade deadline I think Namestnikov, Perfetti, Kupari and Gustafsson have a chance to prove they can contribute. And probably 2 at least start as reserves come playoff time, if everyone is healthy enough to go.

I rate the Stan effect by a combination of Facebook posts, game day thread laments, trade rumour volume, and in the worst case scenario a discussion in the Stanley thread itself. Can go from quiet to high volume in a hurry.

Only 30 more regular season games left, can you bet the number of games Stan will play on Fan Duel?

 

[Bob E]

Brandon Saad anyone?

 

[gojetsgo]

Brandon Saad anyone?

no

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Where would they fit? Morrissey and Samberg seem to be fixtures at LD. I suppose Byram could play his off-side, but I'm not sure about Power.

If it's the Sabres, wouldn't a forward be a more likely target? If Chevy is going "all in", that might mean parting with a near-ready prospect like Lambert and a pick. Then you have to wonder about Cozens or maybe even Tuch, if he would waive his NTC.

Don't know why there is so much interest in Cozens. He's only had one good season, which he is being paid for, and has been bad for the 2 years since. He is scoring like Namestnikov.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

When I look around, Cozens does seem to be the best target for Chevy to pursue. It is a matter of what would interest Buffalo enough. I think you have to start with Perfetti. Salo would move the needle, but I don't know if Chevy takes that leap. Maybe Perfetti and Lambert?


I don't think Vancouver moves EP40 for Cozens and Byram. Maybe Cozens and Powers.

Jeezus!
I wouldn't do Salo for Cozens straight up. Very promising prospect for very expensive failing former prospect.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

As someone that watches Barzal regularly, I would pay that in a heartbeat.. Barzal on the Jets is scary.

His career ppg is .87, only very slightly behind Scheifele's rate of .91. He was right on ppg just last year.

 

[jokesondee]

Just because you are mired in shit in Buffalo doesn't mean you don't hold onto the same skill set and could really breakout big time in a better environment. Cuzons is a big fast center with a ton of puck skills. Being signed long term without trade protection is a plus for us.

Not sure why it would make sense for the Sabres either. If they want to get out of their decades long funk why trade your young 2C for bits and pieces? Also, he's never struck me as a overly fast player from the games ive seen him play.