Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[DRW204]

I'd be talking to Buffalo big time right now.
Cozens would really look nice as Ehlers' center. Both have speed to burn.

Cozens for Miller, Iafallo, Yager and a 1st. Iafallo grew up 30 minutes away. Miller played there for 3 years before. Yager is the right age for that team as an up and coming player and the other two give them a vet at RHD to play with Power and a really good 3rd line defensive player.
Cozens gives us the 2C we need yesterday.

81 55 13
Ehlers Cozens Lambert
Nino Lowry Apples
Barron Kup Names
Gus/Chibs/
Now, we deal Perfetti, a 1st and Barlow for Andersson. That would give us 5 1/2 good D men.

JMo-Andersson
Sammy-Pionk
Heinola/Stan Fleury-DD

I'd also try to get (re-signed to a reasonable deal) Frederic out of Boston.

cozens has 23 pts in 46 gp, and has been in b2b years since his 68 pt season. it's buy-low/sell-high, not buy-high/sell-low.

 

[tbcwpg]

Rasmus Andersson is not on the trade block. Not sure why he is continually mentioned.

Any losing streak by a team has people mentioning all their players as though 4 losses in a row means they're gonna sell everyone. Proposals for the sake of them can be fun but personally I can't separate the context from just a value discussion.

 

[voyageur]

Pionk definitely had a great playoff against Edmonton during the Covid Canadian season, otherwise I'm inclined to agree.

DeMelo has had quiet playoffs which I take as a good thing - he's been not noticeable either good or bad. That's not next level but neither has it hurt the team.

Samberg to me is still young. I don't think you can judge him on the basis of the Colorado playoff round, the entire team was crap from Hellebuyck to Scheifele. I don't recall if he played the year prior in the playoffs but I expect he was 3rd pairing at best and after game one we didn't play effectively.

I'd go Colorado>Winnipeg=Dallas>Minnesota.

I don't see the Jets making a move for a D-man to be honest. We signed the guy we traded for last year (and didn't really play until this year when he re-signed). We've got a glut of bottom pairing guys.

There was a wobble from De Melo, I believe it was in game 3, in a one goal game, with momentum on the Jets side, that led to an odd man rush goal, which is the most dangerous type of goal on Hellebuyck. That one stood out to me. Pionk's game 5 was brutal, and I think that one still lingers too.

Honestly if you measure the Jets RD against the other contenders, the skating deficit is something to consider. Obviously with structure it doesn't look as bad, but I think last year showed that structure can fall apart with opposing speed. One change the Jets have made is to be quicker up front, and to grind more in the other end. And the defense is somewhat quicker too from 4-6, with Big Stan being the exception. Not saying it is going to happen, but there is the possibility of adding a top 4 d-man to pair with Josh, for more minutes, and running Sammy/De Melo as shutdown, and having Stanley/Pionk as your 3rd pairing, with Miller as depth for the playoffs. Because losing De Melo in 2021 had a big impact on the Jets playoff success beyond losing Scheif. And beyond Miller I'm not sure what the comfort level is with Coghlan/Heinola in the playoffs.

I think when comparing Dallas and Colorado you could argue that the Jets lack the 3rd wheel defensively to generate offense, and you see that when the Jets have to play from behind. Jiricek in Minnesota might get into that discussion too.

That said I don't know if the Jets have the assets to acquire a top 4 d-man and top 6 forward at the deadline. And what the effect will be competing down the road against teams that are drafting better, and more often.

 

[tbcwpg]

Pionk definitely had a great playoff against Edmonton during the Covid Canadian season, otherwise I'm inclined to agree.

DeMelo has had quiet playoffs which I take as a good thing - he's been not noticeable either good or bad. That's not next level but neither has it hurt the team.

Samberg to me is still young. I don't think you can judge him on the basis of the Colorado playoff round, the entire team was crap from Hellebuyck to Scheifele. I don't recall if he played the year prior in the playoffs but I expect he was 3rd pairing at best and after game one we didn't play effectively.

I'd go Colorado>Winnipeg=Dallas>Minnesota.

I don't see the Jets making a move for a D-man to be honest. We signed the guy we traded for last year (and didn't really play until this year when he re-signed). We've got a glut of bottom pairing guys.

I know Samberg was playing in the playoffs the year prior because it was his giveaway behind the net to Amadio that lost the 2OT game 3 where the Jets came back from 4-1 down.

 

[voyageur]

Granlund and Liljegren, who Chynoweth coached in Toronto and was apparently on the Jets radar in the 2017 draft for Chibrikov, next year's 2nd, this year's 3rd and Levis, who isn't going to sign.

 

[RustyCat]

What do you guys think about Brad Marchand? And before we jump to its never possible rhetoric, lets air it out. Bruins are in a bit of a sinking ship and Marchand is 36 years old and UFA at the end of the year. Seems like he would be ripe to want to got to a contender, as I feel air in the Bruins sails isnt as strong as it used to be and cant seeing them going all the way. Winnipeg needs a 2C and Marchand brings all that and more

 

[Jets 31]

What do you guys think about Brad Marchand? And before we jump to its never possible rhetoric, lets air it out. Bruins are in a bit of a sinking ship and Marchand is 36 years old and UFA at the end of the year. Seems like he would be ripe to want to got to a contender, as I feel air in the Bruins sails isnt as strong as it used to be and cant seeing them going all the way. Winnipeg needs a 2C and Marchand brings all that and more

I would lean towards him retiring a Bruin, i'm still on the Barzal train, choo-choo.

 

[Flair Hay]

But I'd like an honest assessment...

When comparing the Jets top 4 defense to other teams in the division where do our guys rank against Dallas, who are running Lindell-Heiskanen, Harley-Lybushkin, or Colorado with Toews-Makar, Girard-Manson? Minnesota who are missing their 2nd pairing of Brodin-Spurgeon are on the older side, so I think the advantage would still be in the Jets favour, but there has to be some discussion here about what that loyalty top 4 can do in the playoffs. Samberg has not had a good playoff yet. Pionk has not had a great playoff yet. De Melo has not had a great playoff yet. Morrissey is the only guy who has shown another level in the playoffs.

I think the Jets have some really solid role players on defense. Guys you can count on to be positive contributors in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, they are badly missing two top four defensemen with size. They can play 1st pair, 2nd pair, 3rd pair, wherever. But we need 2... Guys that can both play an all around game while being able to handle big forwards and push around other teams smaller skill guys.

They can be meat and potatoes guys, I'm not talking star players here. Just guys good enough to play tough PK mins and be competent if they need to fill in for injuries.

DeMelo and Pionk fit their complimentary roles well, but they are asked to do too much here. Pionk should be 5 on 5 and PP2 only to get his mins down. DeMelo should be a 5v5 and PK gu. But not a go to shut down MacKinnon and top PK unit guy.

 

[DRW204]

What do you guys think about Brad Marchand? And before we jump to its never possible rhetoric, lets air it out. Bruins are in a bit of a sinking ship and Marchand is 36 years old and UFA at the end of the year. Seems like he would be ripe to want to got to a contender, as I feel air in the Bruins sails isnt as strong as it used to be and cant seeing them going all the way. Winnipeg needs a 2C and Marchand brings all that and more

Marchand does not play centre and i would like him for sure. he'd easily be ahead of names, perfetti, iafallo whoever else they have after scheifele, ehlers, connor and vilardi.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

I would lean towards him retiring a Bruin, i'm still on the Barzal train, choo-choo.

I'm aboard the Barzal train. He'd look awesome here.

 

[voyageur]

I think the Jets have some really solid role players on defense. Guys you can count on to be positive contributors in the playoffs.

Unfortunately, they are badly missing two top four defensemen with size. They can play 1st pair, 2nd pair, 3rd pair, wherever. But we need 2... Guys that can both play an all around game while being able to handle big forwards and push around other teams smaller skill guys.

They can be meat and potatoes guys, I'm not talking star players here. Just guys good enough to play tough PK mins and be competent if they need to fill in for injuries.

DeMelo and Pionk fit their complimentary roles well, but they are asked to do too much here. Pionk should be 5 on 5 and PP2 only to get his mins down. DeMelo should be a 5v5 and PK gu. But not a go to shut down MacKinnon and top PK unit guy.

Very fair points. I think the defense lacks physicality, where you look at guys like Lindell, Harley, Manson, Middleton being tough guys to get inside on, but I'd also say the Jets lack speed on the right side, when you look at how much offense comes from Makar, Heiskanen or Faber from the right side. Pionk can get up in the play and make plays in the offensive zone, but De Melo and Miller don't exactly push the pace. If the Jets keep the game steady they'll be effective.

What do you guys think about Brad Marchand? And before we jump to its never possible rhetoric, lets air it out. Bruins are in a bit of a sinking ship and Marchand is 36 years old and UFA at the end of the year. Seems like he would be ripe to want to got to a contender, as I feel air in the Bruins sails isnt as strong as it used to be and cant seeing them going all the way. Winnipeg needs a 2C and Marchand brings all that and more

8 team NTC and I'd bet Winnipeg is on it. Judging by his comments on All Star games in Edmonton I'd say he's not a fan of Northern Canada. I think if he went West Colorado would be a good landing spot for him, as he trains offseason with Mackinnon I think. I'd still be interested in Morgan Geekie off the Bruins, as he seems to get some 5 on 5 results with stars by going to the dirty areas to make plays. Good skater with size.

But that Eastern Wild Card race is a total crapshoot right now. Chevy kind of talked about it. No one is out of it. Rangers, Montreal and Columbus all have 15 points in last 10 games to heat up. Ottawa is still without Ullmark, but they have a solid team. I think Boston might sell if they start to stumble.

 

[Dirtyclapper]

What do you guys think about Ehlers? Does he sign or become a free agent? If he doesn't sign before the TDL do we keep him for the run and get nothing in return?

For the record I hope we can resign him

 

[DRW204]

What do you guys think about Ehlers? Does he sign or become a free agent? If he doesn't sign before the TDL do we keep him for the run and get nothing in return?

For the record I hope we can resign him

I think he signs after the season and playoffs, similar timing as Demelo last year. Really don't think the Jets trade him, which seems like to have been the dominating commentary over the past few months.

Outside the top line, he's the only one with some offensive juice to his play. To important to trade out of at this point of the season imo.

 

[gritdash60]

Not sure if this is wrong topic, but anyway. Did you guys listen to the Laine interview on Spittin Chiclets, he said that Big Buff was skating and someone told him "see you tomorrow" and he answered "yeah im not coming back" and people laughed, but he really didn't. What a baller move tbh.

 

[kylbaz]

Not sure if this is wrong topic, but anyway. Did you guys listen to the Laine interview on Spittin Chiclets, he said that Big Buff was skating and someone told him "see you tomorrow" and he answered "yeah im not coming back" and people laughed, but he really didn't. What a baller move tbh.

Bit off of that story, early in the off season before he retired, we were discussing Buff on here and someone commented, "What if Buff doesn't come back next year?". Talking like six months before he made the decision public and shocked everyone. Still find that odd after all these years.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Pionk has not had a great playoff yet

I thought he was good against the Oilers.

 

[scarbrow]

Jets need to go for a home run with Nelson or Cozens.

Neither are true "home runs". I like the gamble on them but Nelson might be like the Monohan add and though I like Cozens, there's no saying he'll be better than Names. I'd take the risk of the cost want astronomical but they're not home runs!

 

[gojetsgo]

I think he signs after the season and playoffs, similar timing as Demelo last year. Really don't think the Jets trade him, which seems like to have been the dominating commentary over the past few months.

Outside the top line, he's the only one with some offensive juice to his play. To important to trade out of at this point of the season imo.

yea, I 100% don't see a way we trade him especially since perfetti has struggled to produce yet again, I could see them waiting for clarity on the next cap before they start talking contracts with the key ufa/rfa's, could be seeing a big rise which would make an ehlers extension much easier to do

but on the other hand remember a few weeks ago friedman telling a story how he heard last year a team signed one of their ufa's and the others were upset they didn't receive offers and he believes that team to be the jets which makes sense with nino getting a contract and dillon/demelo waiting wanting to sign

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[10Ducky10]

cozens has 23 pts in 46 gp, and has been in b2b years since his 68 pt season. it's buy-low/sell-high, not buy-high/sell-low.

You should try watching him play sometime.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

If he makes it back to the NHL I believe that Toews will come here.

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Neither are true "home runs". I like the gamble on them but Nelson might be like the Monohan add and though I like Cozens, there's no saying he'll be better than Names. I'd take the risk of the cost want astronomical but they're not home runs!

Cozens is definitely on a downswing but he is also on a very bad team, he has already proven he can be a true top 6 centre with that 30 goal season he put up, I would be willing to bet almost anything that he will be better than Vladdy who has never been a top 6 player and never will be.

 

[gojetsgo]

 

[scarbrow]

Vladdy has been our 2C for 2 years now. I agree Cozens is worth the risk as I'd too wager he has the Buffalo effect and will look great on a better team!

Cozens is definitely on a downswing but he is also on a very bad team, he has already proven he can be a true top 6 centre with that 30 goal season he put up, I would be willing to bet almost anything that he will be better than Vladdy who has never been a top 6 player and never will be.

Chevy go make the Big Swing!

 

[Xavier Laflamme]

Vladdy has been our 2C for 2 years now. I agree Cozens is worth the risk as I'd too wager he has the Buffalo effect and will look great on a better team!

He may be our 2C but he has struggled quite a bit in that role, he has played top minutes and with top tier talent in Ehlers etc and just cannot produce to the level a 2C should, don't get me wrong he is a very good bottom sixer and I love the guy but just doesn't belong in the top 6.