Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Mortimer Snerd]

But why? They already know mo, berg fleury is better.

Well, they really don't know that. They don't know what they have in Heinola. I'm sure the the coaching staff has a better picture of him than we do. But it is still incomplete until they give him a better shot.

And it doesn't matter that Mo, Berg, Fleury is better because they are going to go with Mo, Berg, Stanley. Apparently they think they need his size more than they need a Dman who can keep up with the pace of play.

 

[10Ducky10]

I don't see Sabres retaining.

I guess it comes down to the value you put on Cozens. Draft day value? 2 years ago NHL production value? Or the last 2 seasons of falling production value? I would want some good scouting reports on him before deciding. I've seen him described as a good 2 way player. If that is accurate it would make up for some missing scoring.

And of course what offers from other teams are you going to have to beat?

A big part of the deal is how much Buffalo would value DeMelo.
They have been in dire need of somebody to play with Dahlin and Power since they drafted them. DeMelo fits that bill.
Dahlin is a Norris trophy defenseman with the right partner.
Also, they can really use some vet second/third liners. Nino fits that bill and is on a pretty good contract.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Well, they really don't know that. They don't know what they have in Heinola. I'm sure the the coaching staff has a better picture of him than we do. But it is still incomplete until they give him a better shot.

And it doesn't matter that Mo, Berg, Fleury is better because they are going to go with Mo, Berg, Stanley. Apparently they think they need his size more than they need a Dman who can keep up with the pace of play.

Yes, but, then they don’t need to give a Heinola a shot, because they already love Stan and nothing will change that. It’s easier to convince myself Stan is good than convince coaches he is not.

 

[Jet]

Bitch Barner

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

A big part of the deal is how much Buffalo would value DeMelo.
They have been in dire need of somebody to play with Dahlin and Power since they drafted them. DeMelo fits that bill.
Dahlin is a Norris trophy defenseman with the right partner.
Also, they can really use some vet second/third liners. Nino fits that bill and is on a pretty good contract.

Yeah, I don't think they value those 2 guys as highly as you think they do but I can't say that you are wrong.

Right now, we don't have a replacement for DeMelo. And I would hate to lose Nino. He has been a very good addition to the 3rd line. So maybe Buffalo sees that value in him too.

If I'm trading for Cozens I would prefer to use mainly futures. But that is probably not what Buffalo wants.

 

[10Ducky10]

Yeah, I don't think they value those 2 guys as highly as you think they do but I can't say that you are wrong.

Right now, we don't have a replacement for DeMelo. And I would hate to lose Nino. He has been a very good addition to the 3rd line. So maybe Buffalo sees that value in him too.

If I'm trading for Cozens I would prefer to use mainly futures. But that is probably not what Buffalo wants.

Nah, they have more than they need.
They need NHL caliber vets.
They have a tendency to overpay their players as well.
Dahlin 11m, Cozens 50m over 7 years (same deal as KFC's), Power's 8.35m is bewildering...Skinner's 9m x 8 is another head-scratcher.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Nah, they have more than they need.
They need NHL caliber vets.
They have a tendency to overpay their players as well.
Dahlin 11m, Cozens 50m over 7 years (same deal as KFC's), Power's 8.35m is bewildering...Skinner's 9m x 8 is another head-scratcher.

What is kfc’s next deal gonna look like?

 

[10Ducky10]

What is kfc’s next deal gonna look like?

I don't want to think about it.
Not starting with anything smaller than a 9.

 

[Wpgpage]

I don't want to think about it.
Not starting with anything smaller than a 9.

The Guentzel deal is probably a pretty fair comparison. No state tax in FL so add in another 500K for that at least.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

I don't want to think about it.
Not starting with anything smaller than a 9.

No cups = no big contracts, its that easy...but someone will trade and pay

 

[KingBogo]

A big part of the deal is how much Buffalo would value DeMelo.
They have been in dire need of somebody to play with Dahlin and Power since they drafted them. DeMelo fits that bill.
Dahlin is a Norris trophy defenseman with the right partner.
Also, they can really use some vet second/third liners. Nino fits that bill and is on a pretty good contract.

I doubt DeMelo waives his 10 team no trade clause to go to Buffalo, as you'd think they would be close to the top of it. The Jets would also never trade a player of theirs that signed with them as a UFA to stay with the organization. They have way too much loyalty to do something like that.

 

[GNP]

What is kfc’s next deal gonna look like?

It will be as big one = like $ 9 -10 mil per year. Expensive.

 

[voyageur]

I doubt DeMelo waives his 10 team no trade clause to go to Buffalo, as you'd think they would be close to the top of it. The Jets would also never trade a player of theirs that signed with them as a UFA to stay with the organization. They have way too much loyalty to do something like that.

Fans can discuss it, but probabilities are that no core pieces or any current player on the Jets is getting traded.

Ehlers would be the only potential one, heading toward UFA, with not much likelihood of being re-signed, but it seems unlikely that the Jets coaches believe they are better without him.

 

[KingBogo]

It will be as big one = like $ 9 -10 mil per year. Expensive.

Agreed on the price tag. Connor also seems to be very happy to be a Jet, and him and Scheifele have a very nice groove going. I think he signs July 1st or very shortly after on a big long term deal.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Agreed on the price tag. Connor also seems to be very happy to be a Jet, and him and Scheifele have a very nice groove going. I think he signs July 1st or very shortly after on a big long term deal.

Predicting 10.2

 

[bustamente]

KFC's next ticket is going to be closer to 10m than 9m and he deserves every penny

 

[KingBogo]

Predicting 10.2

I was thinking 7 X $10 M, but agreed somewhere in that ballpark.

 

[10Ducky10]

I doubt DeMelo waives his 10 team no trade clause to go to Buffalo, as you'd think they would be close to the top of it. The Jets would also never trade a player of theirs that signed with them as a UFA to stay with the organization. They have way too much loyalty to do something like that.

Not to mention we can't afford to trade a RHD.

 

[snowkiddin]

What is kfc’s next deal gonna look like?

I’m hoping it’s buy one, get one chicken sandwiches.

 

[WolfHouse]

Not to mention we can't afford to trade a RHD.

Are people watching demelo or basing all this on the first couple months when he was clearly injured...

 

[10Ducky10]

All what?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Agreed on the price tag. Connor also seems to be very happy to be a Jet, and him and Scheifele have a very nice groove going. I think he signs July 1st or very shortly after on a big long term deal.

With the rising cap I think 7x10 will be close.

 

[raideralex99]

Are people watching demelo or basing all this on the first couple months when he was clearly injured...

Demelo is not a top 4 D he lacks toughest and is not a top puck carrier/skater like Josh and you need one of those trades to be a top 4 but hey he wanted to stay in Winnipeg so can't complain too much.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Demelo is not a top 4 D he lacks toughest and is not a top puck carrier/skater like Josh and you need one of those trades to be a top 4 but hey he wanted to stay in Winnipeg so can't complain too much.

But does Hronek do either of those things? I think he just worked with Hughes just Demelo and Mo.

 

[voyageur]

Demelo is not a top 4 D he lacks toughest and is not a top puck carrier/skater like Josh and you need one of those trades to be a top 4 but hey he wanted to stay in Winnipeg so can't complain too much.

It seems to work with him and Morrissey and Scheif's line from time to time, better than any other defensive combination, and De Melo is mostly the guy who holds the line, keeps pucks in front of him. Foot speed when the big guns aren't skating will get exposed, but for some reason this combination of defense and forwards is the best one the Jets have for generating goals. I'm sure the stats support this.

De Melo's a fringe top 4 player, but last year's regular season success was no fluke. I think it's chemistry that the Jets work on. What changed in the playoffs, and I am not sure who made the decision, was to match up Morrissey and Melo against Mackinnon with Lowry's line, and have Pionk and Dillon/Samberg behind Scheif's line. Neither combination was overly successful, and that may get revisited, but Samberg and Pionk are probably not the ideal shudown pair either, as Pionk is wildly variable in his outcomes. Maybe not physical enough either. Miller is physical, but not a puck mover. Or a regular special teams contributor, so he's another rung down.

I wonder if the Jets take a look at Ceci for the deadline. Probably not the same top 4 d-man who went to game 7 Conference final paired with Phaneuf in 2017, took a lot of heat last year for being a weaker link, with Nurse. But he's battled tested, can kill penalties well, which is a role Pionk hasn't excelled in for playoff time. And can move around the lineup more than Miller.