Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[voyageur]

The only changes we made from last year are

Gustafsson to Kupari
Schmidt to Miller

Monahan and Toffoli leaving you may be referring to as well which is fair. I agree rentals of that play style that range shouldn't be in our plans. Snipers that don't drive play and are suspect defensively.

ROR is really good defensively and makes life easier for the other 4 guys on the ice with him. He is also a better playmaker than either by far. It's not repeating past mistakes, it's learning from the mistake of acquiring guys that dont have a good two way game

They only had a center of ROR calibre once and they went to the conference finals. It's crazy to me to be looking at JAGs with size like Dach and saying no thanks to an actual top line calibre guy because of foot speed. He still gets the job done at a high level even with his foot speed.

Dach has pretty much the worst pts/60 mins, goals %, and X goals % on the Habs...

Like traits matter but at certain point a way better player will always fit your system better. If ROR wasn't under contract for multiple more seasons I wouldn't be as interested. It's a deal like Nino's for a underrated center who has grit and tons of playoff experience as a go to guy

All fair. It's good to have players you can count on and you seem to think O'Reilly could be one of those guys. I won't dispute that. I personally like the way the Jets are at center, two heavy centers in Scheif and Lowry. Both decent skaters. But by no means top end. Their physicality often makes up for their lack of speed. I like the speed that Namestnikov and Kupari bring to give another angle of attack from the middle of the ice.

Right now ROR is behind all 3 of our top centers in scoring, doesn't mean he can't add anything. Or exceed their production in the right opportunity. My suggestion of Dach is hoping to find another Vilardi, who can play behind Vilardi in the lineup. Maybe replace him at an injury level which I believe the Toffoli acquisition was meant to do. He too has underachieving stats. He's been in the league 5+ years now. Injury prone. Vilardi's breakout season was at 23 with the Kings, which is where Dach is at but probably in the wrong position in my mind.

I can see advantages in ROR. While he couldn't replace a Vilardi, he could centre a top line and give Scheif a chance to or centre a smaller 2nd line. He can also kill penalties which is a need for the Jets. He's not my guy, but I can understand why he'd be a choice for you and others. If you think he's the next Stastny instead of Monahan.

 

[tbcwpg]

Absolutely this should be our #1 target

Man this is crazy. Monahan is a sniper with size and an okay all around game. Fringe top 6.

O'Reilly is a shut down center with grit and great playmaking ability. Even at his older age he is still a 2nd line center on almost any team in the NHL. Great on faceoffs, can PK... he can physically handle the strength or the big centers like Hintz, Eichel, Eriksson-Ek, etc.

Who cares about peeing our pants worrying about the Avs speed. Let's build the best team we can build and beat whoever we play at our game.

Not sure if the Preds will deal him. But he seems like he would logically move to the top of the trade boards if their season is in the toilet and they want to retool quickly.

We have an ROR type in Lowry already. All the stuff you listed that he does, Lowry does. Lowry has also outscored him this season.

They need more of a scorer. Scoring depth is an issue in the playoffs. The top line gets shut down and the 2nd line disappoints.

 

[Jet]

We have an ROR type in Lowry already. All the stuff you listed that he does, Lowry does. Lowry has also outscored him this season.

They need more of a scorer. Scoring depth is an issue in the playoffs. The top line gets shut down and the 2nd line disappoints.

I think when the playoffs come you can never have too many of those guys.

At the right price I'd definitely be interested in him

 

[Flair Hay]

I think when the playoffs come you can never have too many of those guys.

At the right price I'd definitely be interested in him

Well said.