Speculation: 2024-25 SOIR

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Boston - Ian Mitchell
Chicago - Wyatt Kaiser
Colorado - Ondrej Pavel
Columbus - Gavin Brindley
Dallas - Mavrik Bourque
Edmonton - Roby Jarventie
Florida - Justin Sourdif
Minnesota - Graeme Clarke, Troy Grosenick
Nashville - Spencer Stastney
New Jersey - Adam Beckman, Santeri Hatakka
Ottawa - Matthew Highmore
Pittsburgh - Vasiliy Ponomarev
San Jose - Thomas Bordeleau, Shakir Mukhamadulin
Toronto - Fraser Minten
 

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Boston - Ian Mitchell
Chicago - Wyatt Kaiser
Colorado - Ondrej Pavel
Columbus - Gavin Brindley
Dallas - Mavrik Bourque
Edmonton - Roby Jarventie
Florida - Justin Sourdif
Minnesota - Graeme Clarke, Troy Grosenick
Nashville - Spencer Stastney
New Jersey - Adam Beckman, Santeri Hatakka
Ottawa - Matthew Highmore
Pittsburgh - Vasiliy Ponomarev
San Jose - Thomas Bordeleau, Shakir Mukhamadulin
Toronto - Fraser Minten

Stupid question, but I think Jarventie is just precautions, not necessarily due to an injury. He would still be included?
 

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Could be missing a lot more as the SOIR designation is more difficult to find this season without cap friendly.

Puck Pedia calls it (injured non roster list) but the non roster list is players signed to contracts in the minors, confused listing per Puckpedia plus their site is most difficult to look at.

Several IR or LTIR designations might instead be SOIR that I’ve missed, CF where have you gone.

RD Regula + Boston
RD Mitchell + Boston
LD Joakim Ryan + Carolina
RD Levshunov + Chicago
C Brindley + Columbus
RW Dumais + Columbus
LW McCue + Columbus
LW Gettinger + Detroit
LD Buium + Detroit
RW Sourdif + Florida
RW Clarke + Minnesota
G Grosenick + Minnesota
LW Beckman + New Jersey
LW Filmon + New Jersey
C Highmore + Ottawa
LD Mukhamadullin + San Jose
LD Carlsson + San Jose
LW Chernyshov + San Jose
RW Robertsson + St. Louis
RD Adam Jiricek + St. Louis
C Minten + Toronto
LD Heinola + Winnipeg
 
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Maurice of Orange

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Boston - Ian Mitchell
Chicago - Wyatt Kaiser
Colorado - Ondrej Pavel
Columbus - Gavin Brindley
Dallas - Mavrik Bourque
Edmonton - Roby Jarventie
Florida - Justin Sourdif
Minnesota - Graeme Clarke, Troy Grosenick
Nashville - Spencer Stastney
New Jersey - Adam Beckman, Santeri Hatakka
Ottawa - Matthew Highmore
Pittsburgh - Vasiliy Ponomarev
San Jose - Thomas Bordeleau, Shakir Mukhamadulin
Toronto - Fraser Minten
Brandon Saad and Spencer Stastney are listed as Personal < Non-Roster not as SOIR.
 

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There's definitely a lot of speculation that goes into this, largely because Bettman does not believe in roster transparency/that fans aren't interested in this stuff, but...

Stupid question, but I think Jarventie is just precautions, not necessarily due to an injury. He would still be included?

Ottawa did not list Jarventie on their roster day, but they also did not list him as re-assigned, so he's probably non-roster for precautionary reasons and SOIRd to gain cap-relief

Could be missing a lot more as the SOIR designation is more difficult to find this season without cap friendly.

Puck Pedia calls it (injured non roster list) but the non roster list is players signed to contracts in the minors, confused listing per Puckpedia plus their site is most difficult to look at.

Several IR or LTIR designations might instead be SOIR that I’ve missed, CF where have you gone.

RD Regula + Boston
RD Mitchell + Boston
LD Joakim Ryan + Carolina
RD Levshunov + Chicago
C Brindley + Columbus
RW Dumais + Columbus
LW McCue + Columbus
LW Gettinger + Detroit
LD Buium + Detroit
RW Sourdif + Florida
RW Clarke + Minnesota
G Grosenick + Minnesota
LW Beckman + New Jersey
LW Filmon + New Jersey
C Highmore + Ottawa
LD Mukhamadullin + San Jose
LD Carlsson + San Jose
LW Chernyshov + San Jose
RW Robertsson + St. Louis
RD Adam Jiricek + St. Louis
C Minten + Toronto
LD Heinola + Winnipeg

Without going through the whole list, I believe most of those guys did not play NHL games last year so would not qualify for SOIR

Brandon Saad and Spencer Stastney are listed as Personal < Non-Roster not as SOIR.

Not sure of Stastney's situation either, but PuckPedia has him listed as both Non-Roster (Personal) and SOIR. If that personal is health related (ie. disability or mental heath not necessarily injury) maybe that could account?
 
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How is SOIR different than regular IR?
SOIR is if a player is on a 2-way contract & was on an NHL roster for less than 50 games played last year & is injured prior to opening roster, their Cap Hit while injured is pro-rated based on # of days on roster last year multiplied by the current year cap hit.

IR frees up a spot on the roster to move in another player. It does not, however, free up any cap space. So the salary of the player on IR still counts toward the salary cap limit. This is more of a temporary designation for a player expected to come back during the season. It can also be used for illness.
 
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Could be missing a lot more as the SOIR designation is more difficult to find this season without cap friendly.

Puck Pedia calls it (injured non roster list) but the non roster list is players signed to contracts in the minors, confused listing per Puckpedia plus their site is most difficult to look at.

Several IR or LTIR designations might instead be SOIR that I’ve missed, CF where have you gone.

RD Regula + Boston
RD Mitchell + Boston
LD Joakim Ryan + Carolina
RD Levshunov + Chicago
C Brindley + Columbus
RW Dumais + Columbus
LW McCue + Columbus
LW Gettinger + Detroit
LD Buium + Detroit
RW Sourdif + Florida
RW Clarke + Minnesota
G Grosenick + Minnesota
LW Beckman + New Jersey
LW Filmon + New Jersey
C Highmore + Ottawa
LD Mukhamadullin + San Jose
LD Carlsson + San Jose
LW Chernyshov + San Jose
RW Robertsson + St. Louis
RD Adam Jiricek + St. Louis
C Minten + Toronto
LD Heinola + Winnipeg
In Puckpedia they show SOIR in the same area as Buried/Retained. For example Minton in Toronto and Highmore in Ottawa.
 
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I would think that would cover Reinbacher. He's out 5 months, though didn't suit up for any games last year with the team. Dunno if he counts.
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I don’t think he counts for SOIR, because of the no NHL games last year. The Lightning have two such players who are injured coming into camp, not on SOIR because of no games or days on NHL roster in 2023/24.

They are on “injured non-roster” list, which I gather is something completely different.
 

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