GDT: 2024-25 season game 38 LA Kings vs Tampa Bay Lightning @6:00pm 1/4/25

Sol

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I need details if anybody knows lol

well the dude was restraining him and the lady in the back was saying something and likely the dodger dude was saying something too. 2 minutes for the lady for instigating and 2 minutes for the dodger dude escalating. And tall surfer dude needs an apology from both parties. Also an additional 2 minutes unsportsmanlike conduct to the lady for restraining the tall dude after he got punched.
 

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I need details if anybody knows lol


Don't know what it was about but the fans in that section all seemed to be happy that Dodger hat was getting dragged out while the other fan was being high fived as he was politely escorted out. My assumption was dodger hat was in a verbal argument with someone else and the other guy was initially just trying to keep him back but thats a guess.

I appreciate the passion from the fan base!

Pride = Passion = Punchtheguynexttoyou
 

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Part of the reason I was pumping his tires years ago. He wasn't the most skilled, but he made up for the difference with energy and effort.
Seems to be turning into the player they thought they were getting with Lewis when he was drafted. That wouldn’t be a bad guy to have for the next ten years.
 
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Part of the reason I was pumping his tires years ago. He wasn't the most skilled, but he made up for the difference with energy and effort.
My excitement with drafting Turcotte was that he would be a culture defining player and I think we are seeing that starting to develop. His on ice work rate, commitment etc is clear and he seems to have the right off ice attitude. The issue has simply been his health and that may have limited his offensive upside but the intangibles (everyone favourite vague terms) are so important.

My hope was he’d be some sort of Mike Richards lite and I think he can still be some version of that, even if he scores less than we’d all have hoped. Hes a great ‘kid’ and his contract is crazy good value right now. I just hope his injuries will be far fewer going forward… he deserves that at least.
 

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Ok, so I really don’t get the 11/7 now. Edmundson misses a bunch of time and Englund plays 4:53. I get why they didn’t ice him because he’s not that good but surely it’s better to play an extra forward even if he only gets a few minutes. Thomas or Helenius could play 10 minutes quite reliably.

I like Hiller, don’t get me wrong, I don’t even hate 11/7 but I don’t see why they are currently using it when we have so much F depth and the 7th D hardly plays. I accept I’m likely missing something though.
 

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I like Hiller, don’t get me wrong, I don’t even hate 11/7 but I don’t see why they are currently using it when we have so much F depth and the 7th D hardly plays. I accept I’m likely missing something though.
I don't necessarily understand it either unless the idea is to get more ice time to the top-end forwards. Besides that, it could just be a superstitious thing at this point, it's equated to wins.
 
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I think 11/7 is purely because Clarke isn’t fully ready for game-by-game top 4 minutes, but it comes with the benefit of highlighting the Kings depth upfront. You usually see elite teams using it to double shift top guys, but Hiller uses it to get guys going or use guys on streaks as spark plugs on different lines.

I feel like it’s best iteration would be a 7th defenseman or 12th forward who was a specialist on the power play, but a guy who can fight and give us fine minutes against bottom lines like Englund is better than Burroughs at least.
 

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I don't think we've played particularly well lately. Not generating much offensively, constant D-zone turnovers. Kopitar has looked old and slow.

These are the types of games you win towards the end of a good run.

Pretty much nailed it imo

I don’t expect a lengthy losing streak but right now they’re not fixing things that are breaking and are still winning. Gonna need to tune up here soon once the losses start.

That hockey though. They lost some games earlier they shouldn’t have when playing very well, now they’re winning some they shouldn’t. At least they have the latter in their bag of tricks this year!
 

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Ok, so I really don’t get the 11/7 now. Edmundson misses a bunch of time and Englund plays 4:53. I get why they didn’t ice him because he’s not that good but surely it’s better to play an extra forward even if he only gets a few minutes. Thomas or Helenius could play 10 minutes quite reliably.

I like Hiller, don’t get me wrong, I don’t even hate 11/7 but I don’t see why they are currently using it when we have so much F depth and the 7th D hardly plays. I accept I’m likely missing something though.

Actually, I like it MORE with the depth of forwards we have......and he's double shifting the right players, Kempe, Byfield, Foegle, I think I saw Turcotte etc? He's not double shifting Kopitar, Danault (I think etc)

When Doughty comes back it makes the back 7 better, and the forward depth, I mean he was using Lewis and Moore to start with, then Moore and Jeanot, (not sure I liked breaking that line up but whatever, they won) I think it gives your dynamic players, more chances to be dynamic players
 
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Kings have the 5th highest shooting percentage in the league, while simultaneously being dead last in slot shots and being near the top of the league in 'Long range goals'.

That doesn't seem sustainable. Neither is Kuemper's recent play.

You're probably gonna see some regression soon. P3 here we come.
 

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Kings have the 5th highest shooting percentage in the league, while simultaneously being dead last in slot shots and being near the top of the league in 'Long range goals'.

That doesn't seem sustainable. Neither is Kuemper's recent play.

You're probably gonna see some regression soon. P3 here we come.
Thank you, Sol.
 

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Also watch out Burroughs, Englund is coming back for his "worst Dman in the NHL crown"

5 minutes of icetime and not one single positive event for--0 shot attempts for, 6 against, 4 scoring chances against, a giveaway, and a sparkling absolute ZERO xGF%, which is -38% relative.

These guys really just cannot help playing in hard mode when it comes to Lewis, Burroughs, Englund, and Fiala. Those guys have been consistently issues for the entire season (or more) and normally you could go 'yeah but they're fringe guys' yet when they're only playing 5 minutes and still costing goals...
 

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Actually, I like it MORE with the depth of forwards we have......and he's double shifting the right players, Kempe, Byfield, Foegle, I think I saw Turcotte etc? He's not double shifting Kopitar, Danault (I think etc)

When Doughty comes back it makes the back 7 better, and the forward depth, I mean he was using Lewis and Moore to start with, then Moore and Jeanot, (not sure I liked breaking that line up but whatever, they won) I think it gives your dynamic players, more chances to be dynamic players
I believe this is why Hiller likes the 11/7, it's about distributing the 5-10 minutes your 12th forward would get to your 2nd-3rd liners.

Laferriere gets 16:30 per night instead of 15:45
Foegle gets 15:50 instead of 15:00
Byfield gets 17:50 instead of 17:00

Everytime you roll the "4th" line out you're that much more confident in its effectiveness because it's got one of those guys on it.

The extra defenseman is just for flexibility. But even then, when Edmundson goes down you still don't have to play the #7 if you're comfortable in giving extra shifts to the other 5. Maybe Mikey and Gav played too many minutes last night, but it was a close game against a good team and both of their TOIs will drop once Doughty's back.
 

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I believe this is why Hiller likes the 11/7, it's about distributing the 5-10 minutes your 12th forward would get to your 2nd-3rd liners.

Laferriere gets 16:30 per night instead of 15:45
Foegle gets 15:50 instead of 15:00
Byfield gets 17:50 instead of 17:00

Everytime you roll the "4th" line out you're that much more confident in its effectiveness because it's got one of those guys on it.

The extra defenseman is just for flexibility. But even then, when Edmundson goes down you still don't have to play the #7 if you're comfortable in giving extra shifts to the other 5. Maybe Mikey and Gav played too many minutes last night, but it was a close game against a good team and both of their TOIs will drop once Doughty's back.

Agreed and genuinely I like the 11 part of it so far--we're also lucky we haven't really had a game with a forward injury or two.

They have to figure out how to stop the inexplicable bleeding from the #7 dman. It's bonkers how bad they can be.
 

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