GDT: 2024-25 season game 36 LA kings vs Philadelphia Flyers @6:00pm 12/29/24

[Axl Rhoadz]

I will always hate what McLellan did to this team.

I’d ask you what exactly he ‘did’ to this team…but I know it would be a waste of time. I just have to remember that you and your buddies here prefer losing because it gives you more edgy material to write about.

 

[Trash Panda]

*welp

GDT has devolved into the inevitable sol & sidekick pissing match. Probably time for the lock.

Till next time, nerds.

 

[Buddy The Elf]

Agree where is the f-in replay.. normally Fox would be all over that and say the league needs to review this

Since we're shitting on the broadcast, I could've worn when they gave "this days in kings history" they mentioned Derek Armstrong playing in 2015. Maybe I misheard it but i was scratching my head then had to confirm he retired lomg before then.

 

[Omni Owl]

Since we're shitting on the broadcast, I could've worn when they gave "this days in kings history" they mentioned Derek Armstrong playing in 2015. Maybe I misheard it but i was scratching my head then had to confirm he retired lomg before then.

Sometimes Jim Fox got me like:

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Since we're shitting on the broadcast, I could've worn when they gave "this days in kings history" they mentioned Derek Armstrong playing in 2015. Maybe I misheard it but i was scratching my head then had to confirm he retired lomg before then.

Saw that too, hit rewind and was appeased to hear Nickson say ‘2005’.

 

[Surf Nutz]

The walls are closing in on Blake, and the pressure to make a trade or more.

Unless he is ok with potentially losing guys on waivers.

Pretty hot stretch right now.

You have to give credence to the guys he holstered.

Why change the ammo now just because different players are available?

Gotta wait til the team and the lineup cools down to make changes in my book.

At the same time, gotta be thinking about who to trade or lose and what you want to acquire.

It's a bit of a pinch, but a good one to be in..

 

[FSL KINGS]

You don't get 5+2 for offsetting fighting majors....

I get the point, you know f***all about the game, we've established that,

We get it, you don't like Burroughs, you don't like Hiller, but here you are making shit up, to shit on them.....or at least Burroughs.... just say you don't understand what happened and move on..

You think he was at fault for Laughton's goal, but you have no f***ing idea who he was covering at the time that pulled him away.....do you?

The issue is that Burroughs in his 3 minutes & 41 seconds allowed 2 goals. Which is horrific, but not out of the norm for Burroughs. You're arguing that one of the goals wasn't his fault because Burroughs was being tough. Getting a two minute penalty isn't being tough. That's being a clown. That's fine. You don't get it. Which is a bad look.

Now you're stuck with Burroughs doesn't suck because he allowed only one goal in 3:41. Which is also horrific for a defender.

But Wait! That goal wasn't Burroughs fault either!!!! Because Burroughs was covering someone else!!! Burroughs was guarding the top of the crease as a D. He was puck watching & looking for a bouncing puck & not taking the guy skating through the crease. It's not 100% who Burroughs was supposed to be on, because he was lost & standing by himself. King's generally run a man on man which means Burroughs shouldn't be standing by himself.

Burroughs is trash, he's 28? So he's not getting better. He's bad at hockey. He's not a tough guy. He can't handle 5 minutes of ice time a game. It's embarrassing watching the hoops people are going through to defend this plug & Hiller's decision to keep icing him.

 

[FSL KINGS]

The walls are closing in on Blake, and the pressure to make a trade or more.

Unless he is ok with potentially losing guys on waivers.

Pretty hot stretch right now.

You have to give credence to the guys he holstered.

Why change the ammo now just because different players are available?

Gotta wait til the team and the lineup cools down to make changes in my book.

At the same time, gotta be thinking about who to trade or lose and what you want to acquire.

It's a bit of a pinch, but a good one to be in..

Doughty, Lewis, Moore should be back soonish. 3-4 weeks, sooner. Kaliyev is back on the roster so something is going down in the next month or players are going through waivers.

Needs are easy,
top end scorer Panarin type

Moore replacement, something like Josh Anderson that can deal with getting hit in the neutral zone moving the puck, because Moore's getting beat up for it.

A RD with size for the 3rd pairing so Hiller can get rid of his training wheels (Burroughs)

Gavrikov contract sorted out

Keeping 1st round because draft is in LA & Luc will be pissed if the 3RD is the first round he gets a draft pick in.

Not all of this will fit under the cap. Good luck Blake.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The issue is that Burroughs in his 3 minutes & 41 seconds allowed 2 goals. Which is horrific, but not out of the norm for Burroughs. You're arguing that one of the goals wasn't his fault because Burroughs was being tough. Getting a two minute penalty isn't being tough. That's being a clown. That's fine. You don't get it. Which is a bad look.

Now you're stuck with Burroughs doesn't suck because he allowed only one goal in 3:41. Which is also horrific for a defender.

But Wait! That goal wasn't Burroughs fault either!!!! Because Burroughs was covering someone else!!! Burroughs was guarding the top of the crease as a D. He was puck watching & looking for a bouncing puck & not taking the guy skating through the crease. It's not 100% who Burroughs was supposed to be on, because he was lost & standing by himself. King's generally run a man on man which means Burroughs shouldn't be standing by himself.

Burroughs is trash, he's 28? So he's not getting better. He's bad at hockey. He's not a tough guy. He can't handle 5 minutes of ice time a game. It's embarrassing watching the hoops people are going through to defend this plug & Hiller's decision to keep icing him.

Again, you are showing your ignorance of the game itself. I can't help you there, if you can't recognize what happened, there's no use telling you, you won't believe it.

He wasn't lost, he covered the high man slot till the guy backed out far enough where he wasn't dangerous, then he returned to the crease area, during that time, Minchov tried a bank shot, that Rittich didn't control and the rebound landed right in front of Laughton who was doing a fly by.

Your logic is that Burroughs didn't bear hug Laughton BEFORE any of that happened,

Again, I don't give a flying f*** about Burroughs, but if you are going to talk shit about a player, at least have the f***ing knowledge to know what the f*** it is you are talking about.

 

[The Butcher]

A strong playoff round or two will do a lot to win Fiala some favor around here.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Again, you are showing your ignorance of the game itself. I can't help you there, if you can't recognize what happened, there's no use telling you, you won't believe it.

He wasn't lost, he covered the high man slot till the guy backed out far enough where he wasn't dangerous, then he returned to the crease area, during that time, Minchov tried a bank shot, that Rittich didn't control and the rebound landed right in front of Laughton who was doing a fly by.

Your logic is that Burroughs didn't bear hug Laughton BEFORE any of that happened,

Again, I don't give a flying f*** about Burroughs, but if you are going to talk shit about a player, at least have the f***ing knowledge to know what the f*** it is you are talking about.

Correct. The D's job is to clear the crease & prevent flybys by getting position, body, stick & bear hug/ Tackling if they screwed the rest up. If you don't understand that it's clear you didn't play.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Correct. The D's job is to clear the crease & prevent flybys by getting position, body, stick & bear hug/ Tackling if they screwed the rest up. If you don't understand that it's clear you didn't play.

Got it, so you blame him for a goal for being in the box....then you think his next play should be to take a penalty....and go in the box again....

That is some f***ing special logic you got going on there,

You have no f***ing clue what you are talking about do you?

 

[FSL KINGS]

Got it, so you blame him for a goal for being in the box....then you think his next play should be to take a penalty....and go in the box again....

That is some f***ing special logic you got going on there,

You have no f***ing clue what you are talking about do you?

Taking a dumb penalty & sitting in the box it's your fault the puck goes in.

Tackling a guy, taking a 2 minute penalty to prevent a goal it isn't your fault because you made the best out of a bad situation.

Losing your guy in coverage, but managing to tackle him before a tap in goal, it's still kinda your fault,but you feel less bad because you gave your team a chance.

You're way over complicating it.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

A strong playoff round or two will do a lot to win Fiala some favor around here.

two good playoff games would double his best playoff performance ever

i'm willing to set a low bar for tweedledum especially if he continues this dreadful regular season performance

Edit: before I get jumped by the Suisse fan club yeah he's on pace for 51 points and a -25 on a team pacing for +41 where no other roster regular is a minus at all, i will call that dreadful all day, that would be his worst season since his first trade from Nashville to Minny.

 

[Sol]

*welp

GDT has devolved into the inevitable sol & sidekick pissing match. Probably time for the lock.

Till next time, nerds.

He’s in love with me. It’s not my fault he obsesses over me.

 

[The Butcher]

two good playoff games would double his best playoff performance ever

i'm willing to set a low bar for tweedledum especially if he continues this dreadful regular season performance

Edit: before I get jumped by the Suisse fan club yeah he's on pace for 51 points and a -25 on a team pacing for +41 where no other roster regular is a minus at all, i will call that dreadful all day, that would be his worst season since his first trade from Nashville to Minny.

Fiala needs to provide a big, game breaking goal in multiple playoff games before I'm off his case. I still think there's a glimmer of hope he can do it one day but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Taking a dumb penalty & sitting in the box it's your fault the puck goes in.

Tackling a guy, taking a 2 minute penalty to prevent a goal it isn't your fault because you made the best out of a bad situation.

Losing your guy in coverage, but managing to tackle him before a tap in goal, it's still kinda your fault,but you feel less bad because you gave your team a chance.

You're way over complicating it.

Not complicated at all, you just have no f***ing clue what happened, he didn't lose his guy in coverage, it wasn't "his guy" hell you don't even know that zone coverage that was being played so how the f*** do you know whose "guy" it was, but I gotta say, your tackle anyone who steps in front of the net, is a GREAT tactic, especially against Edmonton, I mean, sure, let's give them 10 powerplays a game, see how well that is.

The fact that you think you saw that goal coming in time to tackle Laughton to prevent, is so f***ing laughable it'd be pathetic if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.

This isn't table hockey bud, you don't get a full minute to decide what you want to do, like I said, Doughty could have been there and that goal is scored....but you do you bud, it's crystal f***ing clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

Let me ask you this, if you take a stupid penalty and your team scores a shorthanded goal, is that your fault as well, you should get some credit right? That's the logic you are running with with that f***ing argument....

 

[FSL KINGS]

Not complicated at all, you just have no f***ing clue what happened, he didn't lose his guy in coverage, it wasn't "his guy" hell you don't even know that zone coverage that was being played so how the f*** do you know whose "guy" it was, but I gotta say, your tackle anyone who steps in front of the net, is a GREAT tactic, especially against Edmonton, I mean, sure, let's give them 10 powerplays a game, see how well that is.

The fact that you think you saw that goal coming in time to tackle Laughton to prevent, is so f***ing laughable it'd be pathetic if it wasn't so goddamn tragic.

This isn't table hockey bud, you don't get a full minute to decide what you want to do, like I said, Doughty could have been there and that goal is scored....but you do you bud, it's crystal f***ing clear you have no idea what you are talking about.

Let me ask you this, if you take a stupid penalty and your team scores a shorthanded goal, is that your fault as well, you should get some credit right? That's the logic you are running with with that f***ing argument....

The defenseman standing at the top of the crease should probably be responsible for the guy skating through the crease without getting touched looking for a rebound.

Burroughs should have spotted the danger before the guy got to the crease, but was puck watching. Lack of anticipation is why Burroughs is bad at hockey & the goal was scored.

Net front defense is a lot of blocking out & tying up your man without taking a penalty. If there's a bad bounce & a sure goal, tackling, cross-checking to clear the opposing player out is a completely legitimate move. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Burroughs was beaten so cleanly that he didn't even have an opportunity to drag the guy down. Literal road cone parked at the top of the crease.

Burroughs is embarrassingly bad. Guy can't get through 5 minutes of hockey without putting the team in the hole. There are goons the King's can pick up for a 4th or 5th that can play 5 minutes of hockey. Hell, TO wouldn't mind dumping old man Reaves. He could probably handle 5 minutes of hockey.

If you get called for a penalty & you're team scores a goal that's the Hockey God's admitting it wasn't a penalty.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The defenseman standing at the top of the crease should probably be responsible for the guy skating through the crease without getting touched looking for a rebound.

Burroughs should have spotted the danger before the guy got to the crease, but was puck watching. Lack of anticipation is why Burroughs is bad at hockey & the goal was scored.

Net front defense is a lot of blocking out & tying up your man without taking a penalty. If there's a bad bounce & a sure goal, tackling, cross-checking to clear the opposing player out is a completely legitimate move. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Burroughs was beaten so cleanly that he didn't even have an opportunity to drag the guy down. Literal road cone parked at the top of the crease.

Burroughs is embarrassingly bad. Guy can't get through 5 minutes of hockey without putting the team in the hole. There are goons the King's can pick up for a 4th or 5th that can play 5 minutes of hockey. Hell, TO wouldn't mind dumping old man Reaves. He could probably handle 5 minutes of hockey.

If you get called for a penalty & you're team scores a goal that's the Hockey God's admitting it wasn't a penalty.

You don't even know what happened on the play do you? Yea, of course you don't. You don't know who was dangerous at the time they were dangerous, like I said, DOUGHTY could have been on the ice, and that goal is still scored....the problem is, you have no f***ing clue as to why that is. THAT's the issue.

I'm not saying Burroughs is good, bad, purple or green, it doesn't matter who was on the f***ing ice in that circumstance, that was a goal being scored, you know how that gets prevented? Rittch doing a better job of rebound control, but your insistence that the team take a penalty because something might happen is asinine at best.

You probably think Minkchov's goal was the LW on the ice's fault, right?

 

[chris kontos]

on fiala's behalf despite getting red faced pissed off at him at times, he has also offered some incredible belly laughs in non important game situations. i think he'd be even funnier to watch on another pacific division team- maybe the sharks?

 

[Statto]

The defenseman standing at the top of the crease should probably be responsible for the guy skating through the crease without getting touched looking for a rebound.

Burroughs should have spotted the danger before the guy got to the crease, but was puck watching. Lack of anticipation is why Burroughs is bad at hockey & the goal was scored.

Net front defense is a lot of blocking out & tying up your man without taking a penalty. If there's a bad bounce & a sure goal, tackling, cross-checking to clear the opposing player out is a completely legitimate move. Hopefully it doesn't come to that. Burroughs was beaten so cleanly that he didn't even have an opportunity to drag the guy down. Literal road cone parked at the top of the crease.

Burroughs is embarrassingly bad. Guy can't get through 5 minutes of hockey without putting the team in the hole. There are goons the King's can pick up for a 4th or 5th that can play 5 minutes of hockey. Hell, TO wouldn't mind dumping old man Reaves. He could probably handle 5 minutes of hockey.

If you get called for a penalty & your team scores a goal that's the Hockey God's admitting it wasn't a penalty.

I don’t rate Burroughs in the slightest but Fiala and Laf were puck watching, covering the guy Edmundson already had and were in each others space/lane. Thats where the breakdown occurred. Between them they should have covered the left wing and tracked the guy coming from the bench. It’s not even debatable.

Could Burroughs have done better, possibly, but that sort of net play happens fairly frequently. I agree he shouldn’t be playing but it’s not the example to us use and make the case for it IMO.

Oh and conceding 4/4 is on the guys on the ice. End of.

 

[chris kontos]

when sticks were wood and men were steel, what coulda happened, didnt.

 

[Statto]

Hiller needs to stop slurping his drink in the post game press conference… otherwise I will start to feel differently about the job he is doing.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I don’t rate Burroughs in the slightest but Fiala and Laf were puck watching, covering the guy Edmundson already had and were in each others space/lane. Thats where the breakdown occurred. Between them they should have covered the left wing and tracked the guy coming from the bench. It’s not even debatable.

Could Burroughs have done better, possibly, but that sort of net play happens fairly frequently. I agree he shouldn’t be playing but it’s not the example to us use and make the case for it IMO.

Oh and conceding 4/4 is on the guys on the ice. End of.

Which is why Burroughs went to the high slot area to cover Sanheim....but nuances is lost on that guy.

Irrational hate just blinds him.

Like I said before I don't care about Burroughs, play, don't play, sit, trade, go play in China who the f*** cares, but if you are going to be pissed/talk shit about a player, please dear god know what it is you are bitching about.

 

[Omni Owl]

At least Hiller seems to make adjustments during the game. With Todd it seemed like everything was already set in stone no matter what, nothing dynamic about his coaching style at all. No wonder we got mogged during the playoffs. I mean he was at the helm when the Sharks got reversed swept by us, completely embarrassing. I feel like the 11/7 format messes with the opposing team's rotation or something, throws them off. Only problem is he's using the wrong #7 Dman, but that'll hopefully change when Drew comes back.