GDT: 2024-25 season game 31 LA Kings vs Pittsburgh Penguins @ 4:00pm 12/17/24

Schmooley

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-Danault- still gets a 1st at deadline
-Fiala-1st and good prospect
-Gavrikov-easily gets a first and he 100% waves to go to a playoff team.

-Kempe gets a haul at the draft 1st 2nd and possibly a good prospect

-Drew gets a 1st if you eat 4 million of his contract (he gets pissy when guys gets moved and asks for a trade.)

-Moore gets you a first

That’s a hell of a chunk to rebuild with!
The funny thing about this is if they kept Kempe and Doughty but traded the rest of those guys theyd probably be in the same spot next year as they are now just with 4 extra first round picks and capspace to bring in a great player or two.
 

SaltyElkHunter

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The funny thing about this is if they kept Kempe and Doughty but traded the rest of those guys theyd probably be in the same spot next year as they are now just with 4 extra first round picks and capspace to bring in a great player or two.
Problem is the need a 1C and you typically draft them in the lotto pics
 
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The funny thing about this is if they kept Kempe and Doughty but traded the rest of those guys theyd probably be in the same spot next year as they are now just with 4 extra first round picks and capspace to bring in a great player or two.
What’s funny is thinking Kempe will continue to thrive without Kopitar, much like Brownie you would see significant regression in his play.
 

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Alex Turcotte > Quinton Byfield

And contract wise, 100% truth.
A healthy Alex Turcotte is the straw that stirs the drink on any line he plays on.

He won’t ever have the game breaking ability of Q, but he certainly has a game that simply makes everyone else better around him. I hope he sticks with Kopi and Juice for a while, because he is that Justin Williams lite that those two will greatly benefit from.
 

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I didn't see this but would have been par for the course all night

Malkin selling a trip fresh off high sticking the puck twice told everyone what the script was

Pens feed showed it. The guys at the NHL Network picked it up , after wondering why PD was holding him mouth. F-Malkin and his trash wannabe team!!!

Q had a pretty f***in rough game.
so did Spence. He looked like he did to start the year. Seriously, two open shots in the slot and he shoots it 3 feet over the goalie!
 

Sol

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A healthy Alex Turcotte is the straw that stirs the drink on any line he plays on.

He won’t ever have the game breaking ability of Q, but he certainly has a game that simply makes everyone else better around him. I hope he sticks with Kopi and Juice for a while, because he is that Justin Williams lite that those two will greatly benefit from.
Uh… what game breaking ability have you seen that Turcotte won’t possess?
 

Sol

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You mean dekes then? Maybe Qb does have him beat in dekes. The first goal is bad ass but when I think of game breaking talent I am thinking of a player who takes over games and Byfield has come no where close to doing that enough to be considered a game breaking talent.
 

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Let down game tonight and one that lack of scoring from some players, came back bite them in butt! Wasn't able to watch the game, but saw 1-0 and 2-1 leads. Kings are not getting those insurance goals to put the game away(take away all the empty net goals). Pens are awful defensively and not much better goaltending wise, but they have enough offense to come from behind in games.

Byfield continues to be a ghost. At the rate he's going, he won't match his 55 points from last season. He seems to have digressed. The type of coach Hiller is, when certain players are in big scoring slumps, he is not the type of coach with the rest of this coaching staff to tap into players going again offensively. I strongly believe Byfield can be a 1C, but not with this coach and system. I'm going to say it anyways(I know it will stir up quite a bit of ppl here), Byfield's production slumps at times reflect what happened to PLD. The examples of both have similarities. PLD showed flashes, but wasn't consistent offensively, and the same thing is happening to Byfield.

The two teams the Kings are strongly competing with, Vegas/Oilers, are good offensive teams. Playing defense first, good goaltending with some marginal goal scoring where the team sits on leads, is not enough to even win a 1st round considering this team is not good enough to win the Pacific Division(I see them ending in 3rd place if there is some good fortune ahead, as the Oilers will pass them).
 

KingsOfCali25

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A healthy Alex Turcotte is the straw that stirs the drink on any line he plays on.

He won’t ever have the game breaking ability of Q, but he certainly has a game that simply makes everyone else better around him. I hope he sticks with Kopi and Juice for a while, because he is that Justin Williams lite that those two will greatly benefit from.
I love Turcotte on the top line with Kopitar and Kempe but I really think Turcotte is the guy that can bring Kaliyev back to the scoring threat he was supposed to be.
 

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This game is still a win if it finally convinced Hiller to leave Turcotte on the 1st line.

The other 15 guys forgot they had to play tonight, I guess.
I like that Hiller has the confidence and self awareness to recognise his mistakes. He adjusts, evolves and adapts. I think he’s a better coach today than at the start of the season and a better coach than he was last year. It feels like it’s his team now.

He isn’t perfect but he doesn’t bury his head in the sand either.
 

Axl Rhoadz

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Byfield's production slumps at times reflect what happened to PLD. The examples of both have similarities. PLD showed flashes, but wasn't consistent offensively, and the same thing is happening to Byfield.
PLD never showed shit. With all due respect, GTFO with that nonsense.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Let down game tonight and one that lack of scoring from some players, came back bite them in butt! Wasn't able to watch the game, but saw 1-0 and 2-1 leads. Kings are not getting those insurance goals to put the game away(take away all the empty net goals). Pens are awful defensively and not much better goaltending wise, but they have enough offense to come from behind in games.

Byfield continues to be a ghost. At the rate he's going, he won't match his 55 points from last season. He seems to have digressed. The type of coach Hiller is, when certain players are in big scoring slumps, he is not the type of coach with the rest of this coaching staff to tap into players going again offensively. I strongly believe Byfield can be a 1C, but not with this coach and system. I'm going to say it anyways(I know it will stir up quite a bit of ppl here), Byfield's production slumps at times reflect what happened to PLD. The examples of both have similarities. PLD showed flashes, but wasn't consistent offensively, and the same thing is happening to Byfield.

The two teams the Kings are strongly competing with, Vegas/Oilers, are good offensive teams. Playing defense first, good goaltending with some marginal goal scoring where the team sits on leads, is not enough to even win a 1st round considering this team is not good enough to win the Pacific Division(I see them ending in 3rd place if there is some good fortune ahead, as the Oilers will pass them).

I think the difference is Byfield struggles because he cares. PLD struggles because he doesn't.

There was a point last night where they missed the same open net three times...kinda felt like the writing was on the wall there.

The Kings have been great lately about getting just enough offense to win and shutting it down...I DO think that their style of defense wins in the playoffs, but I 100% agree that they don't have the scoring to overcome the inevitable powerhouse teams that have guys you literally cannot shut down for a whole series, especially as they just cannot handle a situation that is not 5v5 offensively. PP sucks, 4v4 sucks, 3v3 sucks. PK is great but gets eviscerated by top PPs. We have seen this entire damn movie before.
 
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This game is still a win if it finally convinced Hiller to leave Turcotte on the 1st line.

The other 15 guys forgot they had to play tonight, I guess.

probably a little bit of effects from the rookie party a few nights ago as well.
 

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