I don’t feel so bad, Rangers got rocked by Buffalo not too long ago. 8-3, lol
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I don’t feel so bad, Rangers got rocked by Buffalo not too long ago. 8-3, lol
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Here are some 5v5 Adv Stats for the Ducks in 2025 alone, courtesy of Hockey-Reference:
We're a -6 goal differential with a GF per game rate of 2.73 and a GA per game rate of 3.00. We are down-bad at CF%, FF%, and oZS%, which means our goalies are doing the heavy lifting still for us to have a Pts % of 0.568.
The defense 5v5 is still terribad. I still maintain that the man on man scheme is wrong for this team's personnel, and has been for years now, even going back to Eakins regime.
The bulk of the forwards on this team are not fast enough or good enough skaters to stay tight with their checks using man to man, and the young D often gets puck focused and lose their checks in front of the net. So it becomes a pseudo man to man where they can't force turnovers, and spend 45+sec chasing their assignment in the D zone. So by time the other team has tired themselves out from multiple grade A chances in the slot and finally give the puck up, the entire 5 man group is dead and only sensible outcome is to dump the puck in and go for a line change.
That's why they suffer greatly against teams who cycle well and have d men that pinch effectively in offensive zone. It's also why majority of their offensive chances only come off rush or neutral zone turnovers. They have no capacity to properly force turnovers in their own d zone and counter on break outs.
The bulk of the forwards on this team are not fast enough or good enough skaters to stay tight with their checks using man to man, and the young D often gets puck focused and lose their checks in front of the net. So it becomes a pseudo man to man where they can't force turnovers, and spend 45+sec chasing their assignment in the D zone. So by time the other team has tired themselves out from multiple grade A chances in the slot and finally give the puck up, the entire 5 man group is dead and only sensible outcome is to dump the puck in and go for a line change.
That's why they suffer greatly against teams who cycle well and have d men that pinch effectively in offensive zone. It's also why majority of their offensive chances only come off rush or neutral zone turnovers. They have no capacity to properly force turnovers in their own d zone and counter on break outs.
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Even before Eakins we had trouble with man on man. After BM fired Randy he switched to zone. Eakins came in and brought back the man on man. Cronin is using man on man. The thing is you need good players for that system to work. We aren't Colorado.
The point of man-to-man is to simplify assignments for everyone. Man-to-man requires athleticism, zone requires defensive IQ. I believe, even with the obvious limits, the coaching staff trusts their limited athleticism more than their defensive IQ.
The probably aren't wrong, either. That points to another issue of defensive coaching and personnel. Do we employ players who can't, or won't learn? Do we know how to teach defensive tactics effectively? Doesnt seem like it!
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Terry is not scoring enough to justify his 7 Million Dollar paycheck.. Im talking about goals.. Not assists.. Mac T.. I think Cronin needs to call you a third liner again..
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“ Terry would have similar production to Ratenan if he got to play with McKinnon “ is a laughable comment someone recently made around here. Terry isn’t anywhere near rats
He’s closer to Rantanen skill wise compared to how close their contracts will be.
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Rantanen is apparently looking for over $13 mil AAV. Is he better than Terry? Sure. Is he TWICE the player Terry is? Not even close.
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Every single team has at least 2-3 forwards better than Terry. League wide, Ratenan is top handful of forwards in the entire league. What am I missing here? Do we want to stay bad forever? Minty and MacT have underwhelmed, both will sign Bridge deals. We have money to spend
My problem with paying him that much money is he's not really a centerpiece type superstar. Put differently, I wouldn't expect him to be the straw that stirs the drink. I know ten games isn't a huge sample but he went from significantly over PPG playing with Mack and Makar to 6 points in 10 games. If the reality is that Rants' production was inflated by playing with them, I don't see how that changes to be a deserving of 13 million in Anaheim.
If he ends up an 80 point player on this team, that kind of contact will be an albatross. Especially when some of our kids are due their first big contract.
If he ends up an 80 point player on this team, that kind of contact will be an albatross. Especially when some of our kids are due their first big contract.
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Neither of them will be the player they have been, on the Ducks. That should be obvious to anybody paying attention to how this team is run as well as the fact that we don’t have a Matthews or MacKinnon to pair them with here.
For that kind of money? Neither. Until we have developed or acquired our team centerpiece or the "straw" I don't think we should be shelling out 9+ million dollar contracts to players who aren't that guy just because they happen to be available on the market. 10 million for a Marner or Rantanen? Fine. But that won't get it done.
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I wouldn't even mind paying out the ass for a guy like Rantanen, but the chances of it ever happening are slim to zero. Our path at this point is likely going to be another Cutter type trade from our depth of defensive prospects and just crossing our fingers that this current forward group figures it out in the next few years. I don't think Verbeek would have any problem paying out for star level forward talent if he was trying to toss big money at Stamkos/Marchessault, but I still don't see any guys at that level signing a contract with Anaheim given the current state of the franchise.
NHL payrolls could also be increased by an upper limit of over $113M by the '27-28 season, so having a $7M player like Terry is already fine now and would look like a steal at that point. People saying he's not worth his contract is pretty laughable honestly. Teams are going to have more money to throw around in the coming seasons, and contracts are only going to keep getting bigger.
NHL payrolls could also be increased by an upper limit of over $113M by the '27-28 season, so having a $7M player like Terry is already fine now and would look like a steal at that point. People saying he's not worth his contract is pretty laughable honestly. Teams are going to have more money to throw around in the coming seasons, and contracts are only going to keep getting bigger.
This team desperately needs real outside help, not third liners we plug into the second or first line. I am not remotely confident that reinforcements are coming though.
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Hmmm... I wonder if we have been in contact with our own prospect RD Ian Moore from Harvard yet? I'd like a heads up if he isn't going to sign with us so we can trade him for some asset(s).
If we do sign him, then he'd probably want to burn off a year from his ELC and be part of the NHL roster.
If we do sign him, then he'd probably want to burn off a year from his ELC and be part of the NHL roster.
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Semi-surprised Colangelo wasn't sent down with Z returning. Happy about it though!
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