Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

Reveille1984

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3 goals combined between Gauthier, Vatrano, McTavish, Fabbri, and Zegras through 10 games, and 2 of those were empty netters.

Our D has provided almost nothing. Mintyukov had 2 in 1 game and hasn’t scored since. Zellweger definitely tries to help out offensively, but the numbers haven’t come yet.

The lack of offense is really something. Frustration has to be setting in for some of these guys.
Yeah, we don't have a single forward in the top 80 of qualified forwards in scoring, and have no defenseman in the top 120 in scoring of qualified dmen.

That is almost an unheard of "accomplishment". I guess it can't really get any worse? Hopefully?
 

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3 goals combined between Gauthier, Vatrano, McTavish, Fabbri, and Zegras through 10 games, and 2 of those were empty netters.

Our D has provided almost nothing. Mintyukov had 2 in 1 game and hasn’t scored since. Zellweger definitely tries to help out offensively, but the numbers haven’t come yet.

The lack of offense is really something. Frustration has to be setting in for some of these guys.
Yah here in lies the problem. Nobody is meeting expectations. Nobody.
 

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I would argue that Terry, Dostal, Strome, McGinn, and Doumolin are meeting expectations.

I would add Minty and Lundestrom are there too.

IMO the issue is that the key vets who are meant to insulate and guide the young players are all support players. The young players need vets who can settle a game down with their play. Killorn, Vatrano, Fabbri, Fowler, and Gudas are all good hockey players in the right situation. But they are either past their prime or not that type of player. The Ducks need to swap at least two of them with higher end vets to help support the younger players.
 

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I would add Minty and Lundestrom are there too.

IMO the issue is that the key vets who are meant to insulate and guide the young players are all support players. The young players need vets who can settle a game down with their play. Killorn, Vatrano, Fabbri, Fowler, and Gudas are all good hockey players in the right situation. But they are either past their prime or not that type of player. The Ducks need to swap at least two of them with higher end vets to help support the younger players.
I really think we need another high end forward. 3x23 year old and under D men also doesn't help. You know(not actually dorected at you, just me being snarky), the players VP said he wanted to get.
 

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The team is dysfunctional. Bringing in one or two better players will not offset the fact that players constantly seem lost or confused. We are trying to pound square pegs into round holes and when that continues to fail the coach just shrugs his shoulders.
The young players just don't understand what it means to buy in, imo. When you got Johnson hyping in the bench to do what the coaches are preacher or getting on guys who aren't guys aren't on the same page. We're assuming it's bad systems but it could just as easily be bad execution because they players think they know better or what ever reason. They're not invested in what we're doing.
 

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The young players just don't understand what it means to buy in, imo. When you got Johnson hyping in the bench to do what the coaches are preacher or getting on guys who aren't guys aren't on the same page. We're assuming it's bad systems but it could just as easily be bad execution because they players think they know better or what ever reason. They're not invested in what we're doing.
Maybe, or maybe it's that the coach keeps trying to force a system that does not utilize the strengths of the individual players. And maybe that's what the coach does because that's what he's told to do by the GM?

Regardless, you can't fire all the players. Even if you're right, it's the world we live in today.and you have to adjust. If PV wants to continue being stubborn about it we will wallow in mediocrity for a long time.
 
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DavidBL

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Maybe, or maybe it's that the coach keeps trying to force a system that does not utilize the strengths of the individual players. And maybe that's what the coach does because that's what he's told to do by the GM?

Regardless, you can't fire all the players. Even if you're right, it's the world we live in today.and you have to adjust. If PV wants to continue being stubborn about it we will wallow in mediocrity for a long time.
Oh, totally agree. Something needs to change. I just don't think Cronin is the sole architect of our current predicament. I've mentioned before I think he and PV are too rigid in their thinking.
 
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The big issue IMO in roster construction is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of chemistry between the top forward prospects.

Carlsson at center has not connected perfectly with anyone so far. McTavish was great last season, but he doesn't even look like a center this year. Zegras, whether at center or on the wing, has not fostered a strong pair with anyone. Terry scores because he is a good player, but he hasn't found a good partner since Getzlaf. Who is Terry's long term center?

They need to solidify center/winger pairs for these top players as they are the core forward group.
 

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