Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

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Stills feels like there will be some changes coming to the lines

They want to force Zegras into a defensive winger so bad they'd rather put Lundestrom as 2c. Dumb

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

They want to force Zegras into a defensive winger so bad they'd rather put Lundestrom as 2c. Dumb

On the flip side, Lundestrom might be the best skating forward we have. The guy absolutely flies. His problem is that he never knows what to do with the puck once he's in the zone. It might actually work to pair him with Zegras, a guy who always wants to do something.

 

[lwvs84]

On the flip side, Lundestrom might be the best skating forward we have. The guy absolutely flies. His problem is that he never knows what to do with the puck once he's in the zone. It might actually work to pair him with Zegras, a guy who always wants to do something.

Kind of was hoping they'd flip them and put Z at center (might still play center of the ice in the offensive zone?) but Lundestrom seems like a good 3rd wheel in theory. He's been on lines that worked, he plays defense, and can skate. Hopefully his offense comes alive and he settles in as a good 3rd line forward. Maybe Z makes him look good?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

They want to force Zegras into a defensive winger so bad they'd rather put Lundestrom as 2c. Dumb

Or it could be that Lundy takes on most of the defensive responsibilities at center so Z can be more free. Plus, Z is back as LW. I don't mind this experiment right now.

 

[Deuce22]

Or it could be that Lundy takes on most of the defensive responsibilities at center so Z can be more free. Plus, Z is back as LW. I don't mind this experiment right now.

They obviously don’t trust Zegras defensively at center. I think you are correct even though I prefer Z in the middle.

 

[AngelDuck]

I’m more worried about Zegras than some here. He just seems like he hasn’t improved much since he was 21. He’s a little better defensively and a little less effective offensively.

Whether that’s a coaching or him problem, I’m not sure. But it’s a bit concerning that we have a guy who’s supposed to be entering his prime that hasn’t really gotten much better.

It’s easier for me to look the other way with McTavish at this point who is almost 2 years younger

I’m not giving up on Z (I really like him and want him to succeed here badly) but some progression has to happen at some point this season or else I think he’ll be trade bait for a defenseman

 

[DavidBL]

I’m more worried about Zegras than some here. He just seems like he hasn’t improved much since he was 21. He’s a little better defensively and a little less effective offensively.

Whether that’s a coaching or him problem, I’m not sure. But it’s a bit concerning that we have a guy who’s supposed to be entering his prime that hasn’t really gotten much better.

It’s easier for me to look the other way with McTavish at this point who is almost 2 years younger

I’m not giving up on Z (I really like him and want him to succeed here badly) but some progression has to happen at some point this season or else I think he’ll be trade bait for a defenseman

I feel like this happens every time they put him at wing. Same thing happened at the beginning of last year and in his first partial season. The guy needs to be at center. Imo.

 

[Bender66]

I don't think he necessarily needs to play center, he just needs to be puck carrier on his line. That's why i think Lundy might actually work well with him. Kane never played center but in his prime he was the guy doing the majority of puck handling, and executing the plays on his line.

 

[Leonardo87]

It's amazing how the PP helps production. We should have another 2-3 goals if it was working better from Game 1. Would maybe have a few guys at a PPG now.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

It's amazing how the PP helps production. We should have another 2-3 goals if it was working better from Game 1. Would maybe have a few guys at a PPG now.

Terry going 1v4 on the PP helped rejuvenate our play from the 2nd period onward in the game. The scary part is our goals scored in the game were on the PP and an EN, nothing at ES against the lowly Sharks. We're going to need our PP to produce if our ES/5v5 offense cannot this season.

 

[Leonardo87]

Terry going 1v4 on the PP helped rejuvenate our play from the 2nd period onward in the game. The scary part is our goals scored in the game were on the PP and an EN, nothing at ES against the lowly Sharks. We're going to need our PP to produce if our ES/5v5 offense cannot this season.

Yes, with the struggling PP, they cannot afford to slack on the ES production. This is why some games they only score 1 goal, or worse, get shut out.

This is why they need to figure this PP out, and that Cutter shot and Leo cleaning up in front should be text book on every PP.

Whether it's Mac or someone else, they need to crash the net, and shoot the damn puck.

 

[Goose of Reason]

I’m more worried about Zegras than some here. He just seems like he hasn’t improved much since he was 21. He’s a little better defensively and a little less effective offensively.

Whether that’s a coaching or him problem, I’m not sure. But it’s a bit concerning that we have a guy who’s supposed to be entering his prime that hasn’t really gotten much better.

It’s easier for me to look the other way with McTavish at this point who is almost 2 years younger

I’m not giving up on Z (I really like him and want him to succeed here badly) but some progression has to happen at some point this season or else I think he’ll be trade bait for a defenseman

He looks like his emotion is just gone. It feels like the team went out of their way to reign in some bad penalties that they just took the spark out of his game. He hasn't been playing with the fire he usually does. Hopefully it's just a slump but he needs to get going.

 

[ohcomeonref]

We went from a 65'ish point center who was bad at D to a (on pace for) 35 point wing who is a tiny bit better at D.

 

[Mr Rogers]

To me it looks like he’s still getting touches but just doesn’t do anything with it. Loses possession a lot too.

It looks like it’s almost a confidence thing. I didn’t like the intent of what they were doing, I don’t think trying to push defense on a player like him is worth it, but right now I’m not sure that’s why he’s struggling.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Zegras is not, and never will be, a dump and chase player. As long as Cronin insists that they play that way, he’s going to be underwhelming.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Interesting that in a game where we gave up multiple 2-on-1s, Z, a defensively irresponsible winger, was the one effectively backchecking.

He could have (or should have) had multiple points. That's on him (and his linemates), but please, give him something to work with on the PP. Hopefully Vatrano finds his groove soon.

My only real concern is his shot. It used to be lethal—picking corners from in close, one-timers, etc.

Zegras shot was never “ lethal” I wish it was, but it’s never been.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Zegras shot was never “ lethal” I wish it was, but it’s never been.

Maybe not lethal, but I do remember when he could fire one timers from the faceoff circles (quick enough to beat a goalie) on PPs. Where the hell did that go?

 

[robbieboy3686]

Maybe not lethal, but I do remember when he could fire one timers from the faceoff circles (quick enough to beat a goalie) on PPs. Where the hell did that go?

It’s still there.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It’s still there.

Can't say I recall seeing it in quite a while.

 

[caliamad]

People need to watch Ted Lasso to understand how we are screwing the pooch w/ Zegras.



This lineup with Killorn and Lundy just prove it.

Treat him like Selanne, don't expect him to back check and put him with a good defensive center (Mac is the best one we got) and 2 way winger (Vatrano) and tell Zegras to be an <expletive/expletive>

 

[McDonald19]

Why are the Ducks carrying two extra d-men? Get Zells to the Gulls asap.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Why are the Ducks carrying two extra d-men? Get Zells to the Gulls asap.

Bc Verbeek has designated the NHL as his development level for his young defensemen.

 

[All Mighty]

At the end of last game, the team turned to Fabbri to take some critical draws with the goalie pulled, and he went 4-for-4. That could be something to keep an eye on.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

At the end of last game, the team turned to Fabbri to take some critical draws with the goalie pulled, and he went 4-for-4. That could be something to keep an eye on.
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Cronin did the same later in the game in yesterday's tilt with the Rangers. Problem is, Cronin is set on developing Carlsson's FO skills to the team's detriment. It's apparent that Carlsson doesn't possess the speed or strength to win FO's regularly as a 19-year old. Just do what we did with Z at FO's by letting Rico take the FO's.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Cronin did the same later in the game in yesterday's tilt with the Rangers. Problem is, Cronin is set on developing Carlsson's FO skills to the team's detriment. It's apparent that Carlsson doesn't possess the speed or strength to win FO's regularly as a 19-year old. Just do what we did with Z at FO's by letting Rico take the FO's.

This will fully happen soon I’m sure. Cronin has to do anything possible to win so he doesn’t lose his job.