2024-25 Roster Thread #3: the Nations and after.

[Beef Invictus]

I pointed it out elsewhere, but we have had numerous players leave over the years and talk about how they had to rebuild their game after Flyers "development" destroyed their game. Frost and Farabee are setup guys who were forbidden from using that skillset in favor of becoming board grinders. They have years of wrong, bad instincts to undo.

Meanwhile, the guys we got in return are entering the Flyers skillgrinder and will only get worse. Every time we bring in someone new, even if it's just Hathaway or Hayes, they are like a breath of fresh air and within a year or two they're just part of the mud pit.

We could watch it with Patrick before his brain became goo. He had a precise touch on his passing that nobody else on the team could match when he was fresh out of the draft. Year later that was gone. Pure dump and chase. Again, that was before the brain stuff. That was just natural Flyers development in progress. We've watched Michkov become less dynamic and creative as well. This is what the Flyers do, and it's what they've done with everyone they can for over a decade now.

 

[outlet]

1 guy already WAS a waiverwire guy FFS.

That guy has just as many points as Farabee while making much less who can be let go after the season. Farabee is making 5 million for the next 4+ years while giving you next to nothing in production.

Want to make the case they sold low and should have waited. That’s fine.

 

[dragonoffrost]

We all need to take off our multi focal glasses that let us see 2-3 years into the future and put on orange tints baby!

 

[Flyerfan4life]

That guy has just as many points as Farabee while making much less who can be let go after the season. Farabee is making 5 million for the next 4+ years while giving you next to nothing in production.

Want to make the case they sold low and should have waited. That’s fine.

because this Org. NEVER sells on the high.. they grind a player down into a nub then wonder why the rest of league doesnt wanna pay much..

they do it over n over n over, and will continue to do so...

being a flavourless board grinder is what this Org. expects from all its players..

 

[BernieParent]

I have been away from here or anything hockey due to, well... It's not been nice mentally.

TLDR on PHI plans this deadline? Any rumblings?

I hope you are doing much better now.

 

[ellja3]

I hope you are doing much better now.

Thank you, it all depends on me and me only. Sorting some inner struggles and demons. This very moment I do feel better, tho, thanks.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Thank you, it all depends on me and me only. Sorting some inner struggles and demons. This very moment I do feel better, tho, thanks.

Sending positive vibes.

 

[ajgoal]

Thank you, it all depends on me and me only. Sorting some inner struggles and demons. This very moment I do feel better, tho, thanks.

Good thoughts on their way.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Thank you, it all depends on me and me only. Sorting some inner struggles and demons. This very moment I do feel better, tho, thanks.

 

[renberg]

I have been away from here or anything hockey due to, well... It's not been nice mentally.

TLDR on PHI plans this deadline? Any rumblings?

Get well; be well.

 

[volnoir]

I pointed it out elsewhere, but we have had numerous players leave over the years and talk about how they had to rebuild their game after Flyers "development" destroyed their game. Frost and Farabee are setup guys who were forbidden from using that skillset in favor of becoming board grinders. They have years of wrong, bad instincts to undo.

Meanwhile, the guys we got in return are entering the Flyers skillgrinder and will only get worse. Every time we bring in someone new, even if it's just Hathaway or Hayes, they are like a breath of fresh air and within a year or two they're just part of the mud pit.

We could watch it with Patrick before his brain became goo. He had a precise touch on his passing that nobody else on the team could match when he was fresh out of the draft. Year later that was gone. Pure dump and chase. Again, that was before the brain stuff. That was just natural Flyers development in progress. We've watched Michkov become less dynamic and creative as well. This is what the Flyers do, and it's what they've done with everyone they can for over a decade now.

I hear what you are saying but to say Patrick had better touch than G or Voracek is asinine.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Almost as good of a chance as the Flyers deciding to move on from Risto and Laughton by Friday.

And my vibe. It’s gone.

 

[Appleyard]

Half a decade since they managed the kind of 20 game run that would put them in the play-offs.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I hear what you are saying but to say Patrick had better touch than G or Voracek is asinine.

For a brief second he did. He could float a stretch pass on transition that just perfectly settled on the tape of its target. An infant could receive it in stride.

Then we developed him.

 

[Appleyard]

For a brief second he did. He could float a stretch pass on transition that just perfectly settled on the tape of its target. An infant could receive it in stride.

Then we developed him.

I am still pretty certain that even with sub-optimal development...

were it not for the migraine issues Patrick would have ended up at worst a damn good 60 point 2C in his prime. That was the rough floor of the trajectory he was on.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I hear what you are saying but to say Patrick had better touch than G or Voracek is asinine.

He did though. Not better vision or playmaking but his raw ability fresh in the league was amazing.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I am still pretty certain that even with sub-optimal development...

were it not for the migraine issues Patrick would have ended up at worst a damn good 60 point 2C in his prime. That was the rough floor of the trajectory he was on.

We didn't have time to really figure out what his toolbox could have been, but yeah on raw tools alone he should have done that

 

[BlackandOrange]

I was thinking of the trades the team has made with the 'Bus lately, and other than Leighton for Mason (+3rd?), they have pretty much stunk. Hartnell for Umberger. Voracek for Atkinson. Bob for Leier and Stolarz. Maybe we (the royal we) should stop trading with those guys.

Even the Provo trade was lackluster if you break it down asset by asset.

 

[Curufinwe]

Even the Provo trade was lackluster if you break it down asset by asset.

No it wasn't.

 

[Curufinwe]

Tanner Jeannot seems like a UFA Jonesy would push to overpay for this summer.

Tanner Jeannot | 2yrs x 2.665M (LAK)

Tanner Jeannot signed a 2 year, $5,330,000 contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning on Jul. 15, 2023. The contract has a cap hit of $2,665,000.

capwages.com

 

[Striiker]

Giroux was such a bad influence and locker room cancer that he’s still being referenced as a positive years later

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Giroux was such a bad influence and locker room cancer that he’s still being referenced as a positive years later

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inB4 TK is a scratch..